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RavenMuse -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 8:44:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hotjeff1857
But I would come, only if its all femles party.


Slight flaw in your plan there sunshine... if it is an ALL FEMALE party, you wouldn't be getting an invite!



MichMasochist -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 8:54:31 AM)

I can't speak for others, But your assertion of male subs just wanting to play reads like the typically biased stereo typing.

If I am looking for kinky play I wouldn't be going to a munch in a public place looking to do that. Rest asured I don't plan on playing with some stranger; that's not even a first date.

Ironically the last munch I attended, on the second floor of a bar. Publicly accessable by the way. Almost all the sub girls present lined up for the spanking bench, and the violet wand. Assuming sub guys just want to play then we can extrapolate that I must have been the only male sub at the munch. Least of which was that I didn't play. But that's your corner of the universe, and maybe you frequent far more munches than me.

Mich



tabooless -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 8:56:00 AM)

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Although the truth is people rarely disrespect me to my face. Maybe confrontation is the answer to changing this perception. Maybe it's time for change, time to rise up and demand respect, time for a BDSM civil war! It’s been said that male subs are the most numerous. Think of the power, think of the glory, victory is all but assured.

Oh no! I created a monster… hehe!

No I didn’t mean to start fights. Be nice and respectful to everyone there. If someone is disrespectful towards you let him know about it, don’t just grab the nearest chair and break it over his head. That part comes a little later… I’m pretty quick witted so I can usually dissect someone who tries to put themselves over at my expense. No need for violence.

As far as the BDSM civil war goes… Nah! All is good. We do it because we enjoy it. Besides, a sub without a Domme is nothing, and a Domme without a sub is nothing. We draw pleasure from each other.



RavenMuse -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 8:59:39 AM)

Right... 100 of you lot on one side, IB and myself on the other.... sounds like fair odds to me[:D]

Cry havok and let loose the dogs of war![8D]



JohnWarren -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 9:19:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

I can't speak for others, But your assertion of male subs just wanting to play reads like the typically biased stereo typing.


May I point out the post made a few minutes ago by "HotJeff" (http://www.collarchat.com/m.asp?m=295216&mpage=1&key=)

Isn't it fun when one of your own cuts you off at the knees?



MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 10:13:47 AM)

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You might someday have your fantasy but probably only after you get to know people and they get to like you as a person first and then as potential partner and then as a partner.


Ah, but that would require effort without immediate gratification.



TeeGO -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 1:00:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

I can't speak for others, But your assertion of male subs just wanting to play reads like the typically biased stereo typing.


May I point out the post made a few minutes ago by "HotJeff" (http://www.collarchat.com/m.asp?m=295216&mpage=1&key=)

Isn't it fun when one of your own cuts you off at the knees?


You've got that right. I was just slapping my head after seeing his entrance.

Or in the words of Homer Simpson, "DOH!"

Edit for typo.



JohnWarren -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 1:23:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TeeGO
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren
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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

I can't speak for others, But your assertion of male subs just wanting to play reads like the typically biased stereo typing.


May I point out the post made a few minutes ago by "HotJeff" (http://www.collarchat.com/m.asp?m=295216&mpage=1&key=)

Isn't it fun when one of your own cuts you off at the knees?


You've got that right. I was just slapping me head after seeing his entrance.

Or in the words of Homer Simpson, "DOH!"


It may have been unworthy, but the timing was so damned good.

Let's face it... there are a multitude of reasons for doing anything and they always range from the noble to the despicable.



hotjeff1857 -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 3:32:30 PM)

Before making efforts, you have to know someone who is interested in the same fantasy.



FelinePersuasion -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 3:55:50 PM)

Actually going to munches and being polite and social and not a horny lil school boy doesn't require knowing someone with the same interests.



MHOO314 -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 4:14:57 PM)

ok uhm hon, this is not the place to post your personal ad--so perhaps you either need to attend a local munch and/or post your ad where it belongs--



Moloch -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/17/2006 5:58:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: MichMasochist

I can't speak for others, But your assertion of male subs just wanting to play reads like the typically biased stereo typing.


May I point out the post made a few minutes ago by "HotJeff" (http://www.collarchat.com/m.asp?m=295216&mpage=1&key=)

Isn't it fun when one of your own cuts you off at the knees?


OUCH!!! John : 1 MichMasochist: 0
No really I kinda have to agree with John Warren, there is very large amount of "wankers" among male subs who are just looking for a kinky romp.



Real0ne -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 1:07:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress


Why is there this lack of male subs? Is this true at other munches? Do male subs not have the desire to know others in the lifestyle as just friends? Are male subs not as serious about BDSM as others? What causes this? What's your opinion?


i cannot speak for your area but in my area here is a typical nite at the munch:

once in the door:

Looks around and observes....

ok she is with him,
she is a pro,
ok there is a couple,
nuther couple,
bet she is single but ewwww yuk,
nuther couple,
oh nice looking single, crap a sub,
nuther pro,
nuther couple,
woah here comes singe domme!

now lets see if i hold up a free beer sign that might get the attention of tear 1 thru 3, only 3 more to go... step on a few toes and little pushing, whew now only 1 tear to go... ok check it out, one of the three guys talking to her is fading back, zingo i make my move and say something catchy, she smiles and we say at least 3 sentences before guy number 2 says something that also gets her attention so i wait my turn and zingo have another good line say 3 more sentences and then the process starts over and then over the course of the evening i have this intense, intimate and deep conversation with her.

Its then that i realize i am having too much fun and do not deserve it so i head over to the bar to get a night cap and get the hell out of there.....thinking to myself how i cannot wait to go to the next one.

a night at our local munch for a male sub.








Real0ne -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 1:26:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TeeGO


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ORIGINAL: onceburned

TeeGO, there is a ClubFEM slosh in Chicago this Saturday - you might want to look into it.
http://www.collarchat.com/Chicago_ClubFEM_slosh%21/m_294796/tm.htm


Thanks, I will check that out.


yeh i was thinking the same thing until i seen who was putting it on. LOL

its a very small world around this hood.




IronBear -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 3:47:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

Right... 100 of you lot on one side, IB and myself on the other.... sounds like fair odds to me[:D]

Cry havok and let loose the dogs of war![8D]



Slight point of order there my old china.. Shouldn't be "Cry havok and let loose the Bears of war"??????? Lets warn up by raiding the nearest rubberty. [;)]



MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 4:31:32 AM)

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Before making efforts, you have to know someone who is interested in the same fantasy.


For some of us, this is a lifestyle, not a fantasy game.

Funny, I never really considered it an 'effort' to behave like a decent human being and not treat others like they were only here to get me off.



Lordandmaster -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 9:49:26 AM)

Ummm...havoc.

Havoc, flak, and amok are three of my favorite words...

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

Right... 100 of you lot on one side, IB and myself on the other.... sounds like fair odds to me[:D]

Cry havok and let loose the dogs of war![8D]



Slight point of order there my old china.. Shouldn't be "Cry havok and let loose the Bears of war"??????? Lets warn up by raiding the nearest rubberty. [;)]




sjacket -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 9:58:50 AM)

I have been attending munches here in Cincinnati for about 5 years now for 2 different groups (although we are now down to one- PEER) and am a member of others in Dayton and Indy. It has been my experience that they are as comfortable/uncomfortable as you make them. I have never had a problem with any Dom or Domina, male or female sub/slave/Switch. It seems that most are there to catch up with friends and meet new people who share their interests. A couple of these are generally well attended (30- 50), and definately the lowest representation is the male sub. I have at times been the only one, or one of 3 or 4. At the Cincy munch, I am pretty much the only collared one there, the others who occasionally show up are there as singles. And there are always more single Dominas than subs.

I can understand the outting fear, and even the outright shyness that can keep you at home... alone..... in front of your computer (I overcame both, so can you). It's no different than any 'nilla meeting situation, you often have to make the first gesture. But don't let fear make the decision for you. I met my Owner/Mistress thru another i met at a munch years before, and have made many friends from them.

I do also want to say that Mistress and I have attend the FemDom munch that (I believe) you are referring to. It is run by a Pro House, but there are non Pros who will stop by as well. It is a fine group of Ladies, and a fun time.

But back to th OP, maybe it does come down mostly to fears. And I suppose you would have to throw some HNG action in there as well. But I have never been hit on by a Dom, never looked down upon by a "sister", and never assumed to be gay (well once, but it was a gay leather event we were vending at. So that doesn't really count). With my I come into contact with hundreds of people a day, and have never run into one of them at any BDSM event. So any "outting" is of my own doing. These are just my experiences, and are not too out of the ordinary I wouldn't think. And thanks for listening.



TeeGO -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 10:09:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

Right... 100 of you lot on one side, IB and myself on the other.... sounds like fair odds to me[:D]

Cry havok and let loose the dogs of war![8D]


I had the forces ready, the drums about to sound, when I realized we have a problem.

You and IB are classy individuals that respect others and deserve respect. Guess we have to call it off.

Damn, no havoc today.



RavenMuse -> RE: Why don't male subs go to munches? (3/18/2006 10:24:16 AM)

But the ones that aren't worth respecting would be too busy running away to have a war with!

Gosh, Darn. A good war is so good for releaving stress too!

*Puts swords back in the cupboard*



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