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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/5/2009 5:17:37 PM   
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Ya know when I first met my husband I thought he was the hottest man in town along with all the other girls who were chasing after him.

After we got married he gained weight, he got older and while others may not have found him as attractive as when we were younger, I still saw him as the man I married.  I was still just as attracted to him as the day we first met.

I think when two people really are compatible with each other and build a life together you look beyond the physical after awhile and you realize just what you  have and you stop looking for the "next best thing". You realize you were attracted to them for much more than just the physical.

Imo if a relationship is built purely on the physical then of course you'll lose interest in them as time goes on and you'll find them unattractive. The relationship will finally burn out and fade away. But one built on more will continue to kindle and grow.


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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/5/2009 8:04:29 PM   
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when?  or if?



GM, You are entirely correct. I should have said "if" not when. Because for the lucky ones, that "if" never happens.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/5/2009 10:08:14 PM   
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Yeah... I couldn't have said better. Consider your post seconded.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/5/2009 11:33:19 PM   
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We've discussed how important physical attraction is at the START of a relationship. But what about something happening "midway" through, I thought it would be more interesting to wonder: What do you do when you STOP being physically attracted to your slave (or your master)? Do you leave? Do you stay? Did your slave as a person ever really mean something to you to begin with (or your master)?

Obviously, when there is no loving relationship between the parties involved the answers will change. But if you enter what you believe to be a loving relationship, how important is maintaining the status quo physically? Going on the male master/female slave perspective, what if your slave develops breast cancer and has a mastecomy? Are you justified in not wanting to touch her because her breasts are gone or she is bald from chemotherapy? What about the master who goes from having the six pack, to just looking "normal?" What do we do when gravity strikes and one or more parts on either the master or the slave begin to sag? Is it ok to say "Eww, I can't really get hot for you anymore?"


Anyone who places so much importance on ones outer appearace is not one one I would wish to be involved with. When one enters into a relationship, you to not dump someone simply because they became ill. Those individuals are lower than scum.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/6/2009 12:04:30 AM   
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Sickness is of course something which is a terrible thing to end a relationship over. I have not tried it my self. But feelings is a hard thing to change and if your partners looks is directly ofputting, what do you do? Another i do remember from my very young days. A friend of mine did get married. Within a very short time the woman simply let her self go. Not only weight gain but certainly also the way she dressed, cleaned her self. She became a real slob. My then girlfriend did decide to prod her a litle on it. The answer she got was "Why should i care. I am married". At he time i think she was about 23.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/6/2009 11:11:23 AM   
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So when Sirs scrotum sags enough to hit the bed, and my boobs do the same thing - when we are lying on our backs, then we have to break up? Damn, we're late!

For me , attraction transcends physicality. As, I suspect, it does for most people - otherwise there would be no old people with partners - or for that matter, 30 year-olds.

Its a fairly interesting question, but i don't think we are going to get too many people saying that as soon as a chin sags, or a man boob appears the offender is dumped! Most people are a bit more multi-dimensional than that.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/11/2009 12:54:11 PM   
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As it has been commented, this is a question that tends to permeate beyond just the world of kink and D/s.  Though it is sad to see, the average level of commitment that is involved when two people get married is dropping.  I suspect that, whether or not marriage is involved, the same is true in the D/s world.  To a large extent, the world in general is moving to believe that a lack of consequences is better.  It seems to be the common opinion that if something in the relationship no longer works for one or both parties, it is acceptable to end it.  I suspect that this philosophy will lead to fewer people being accepting of drastic physical changes, and more ending of relationships as a result.

As someone who has not been married, but wants to be, I have always tried to be observant of those with marriages and relationships that are strong, especially those that have been tested in many ways.  The following are a few of my conclusions from observation.

First, whether it is kink or not, a relationship cannot be based solely on sexual attraction and pleasure.  There have been a number of discussions on here regarding the separating of sex and emotional involvement.  Whether or not you think this is acceptable, it is my conclusion that this won't lead to a relationship that would weather much crisis on the attraction front.  Whether we like to admit it or not, eventually we all risk finding ourselves in a position where sex is less important to us.  Whether that is because age steals away our potency or for other reasons, a relationship in which sexual pleasure, tension, and attraction were the prime focus is going to be very hard to salvage.

Second, (and perhaps the most uncommon of the points I will make) excessive pornography tends to exacerbate this kind of problem.  When a man and a woman are committed to one another and grow with one another, the attraction between them grows with them.  It comes to extend far beyond the initial physical attraction, at least for most of the people I have seen.  The issue with pornography is that is designed to appeal and addict.  What starts in pornography often becomes fetish, even to the extreme definition of where sexual arousal/pleasure becomes much less potent without that.  No matter what other effects it may have, the pornography industry does have the effect of making the younger and/or more "attractive" appearances a very strong sexual fetish.  (I realize that the term fetish may be a little bit false in it's use here, as it seems the majority of society is now associating young women with sexual drive, so perhaps we have moved beyond something that is "not generally considered erotic".)  In any event, I have observed that relationships in which one or both partners are frequent viewers of pornography are less likely to stay together through physical changes.  I am sure there are APA and other psychological studies on these effects as well, and I know I have browsed a few, though I don't have them on hand to reference at the moment.  A little digging should be easy enough, if people want to press this point.

The last point I would like to make is that attraction is not something we don't have control over.  I have seen many couples go through the rocky times, realizing they don't feel for each other the way they used to.  While a large number do go for a divorce at those times, there are also those who choose that they are going to work to revitalize that attraction, to recover what they lost.  Whatever the reason for the lack of attraction, it doesn't have to be the end of what has been a long and happy relationship.  It may require effort and change from both parties, but people can choose to work for that attraction.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 9:12:45 AM   
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Personally i do not suffer this problem 'cos i never went for looks in the first place and also the feeling sexy comes from within me and is not generated by someone elses beauty... but more their mood...

I myself am sexy... not pretty or beautiful or anything, but i am definitely sexy... i  attract men... which is lovely...
but each time i have been in a relationship it has been with a man who is possessive and does not like me getting too much attention from other men...
also i was afraid that i would not be able to say no to a man if we happen to be in the same mood so to be safe i have let myself go to an extend...
i don't flirt, i wear baggy clothes, hardly any make up... put on some weight...

Since i turned 40 i have decided that hiding myself away is not a good thing for me... and i am sure i can handle temptation now... so my other half will now just have to cope with my total gorgeousness and find a way to take the attention it generates as a compliment too... and not a threat...
I feel much better than i ever did because of it...

Sometimes maybe people let themselves go a bit to appease their other half...

If i had to have a breast taken off i would ask the surgeon to divide the other one in half... if they both had to come off  i would be sexy without breasts...
if i am ill and feel like shit i believe my Husband will care for me...

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 9:18:29 AM   
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my husband handled this by not having sex with me any more(about 10 years now). i didn't realize i would miss it as much as i do....i and also (stupidly) didn't realize how quickly it would erode our intimacy.

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 9:30:35 AM   
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quote:

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my husband handled this by not having sex with me any more(about 10 years now). i didn't realize i would miss it as much as i do....i and also (stupidly) didn't realize how quickly it would erode our intimacy.


sorry breatheasone was this in response to me?
... and are you saying you have not had sex for 10 years? because your husband does not find you attractive?
and if that is the case... are you going to do anything about it?

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 9:59:02 AM   
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Candy I'm a little confused. Is Mike your husband and your Master or are they two different people? Just curious and don't feel like you have to answer me if it's none of my business. .

To the OP it takes a lot of hard work to stay attractive and hopefully I will continue to appeal to him. I'm not naive enough to not realize that He is very successful and lots of women would love to be with Him, and he makes no secret that he expects me to stay looking good and in shape, whether it's working out, or dressing well, or even getting Botox. No big deal to me, he wants it done, he pays for it and I *love* it. However, he is 16 years older than me and he also works out, watches what he eats, dresses well and takes care of himself for me too. I can't imagine a time when I won't find him the most handsome distinguished sexy man I know. .

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 11:08:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ranja

quote:

ORIGINAL: breatheasone

my husband handled this by not having sex with me any more(about 10 years now). i didn't realize i would miss it as much as i do....i and also (stupidly) didn't realize how quickly it would erode our intimacy.



sorry breatheasone was this in response to me?
... and are you saying you have not had sex for 10 years? because your husband does not find you attractive?
and if that is the case... are you going to do anything about it?

No, sorry it was a "fast reply"

Yes...i have done what i can to improve the situation, and my quality of life.  The fact that its taken a toll on an emotional level, that was so hard to deal with.


3 years ago, i had a long involved talk with my husband. He agreed i could seek out a D-type, that would be my Master (Mike)


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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 12:10:43 PM   
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Thanks for answering... and i'm sorry to hear of this troublesome situation, i can relate...
and good for you that you have managed to broker a deal...

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/13/2009 12:18:21 PM   
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No problem...and thanks, but i'm not really an innocent in this....i mean i could have left. i made a decision to stay knowing what the situation was/is. 

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/16/2009 5:52:17 PM   
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then you beat them more

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/16/2009 5:59:19 PM   
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then you beat them more

At least it'd be physical contact.


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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/16/2009 7:17:46 PM   
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Easy enough --->  Problem Solved!



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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/16/2009 7:52:32 PM   
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Looks fade, over time. So it doesn't make any sense to base too much on them. I would not release my slave, over his looks. That would just be dumb. I would still take care of him, and require his service, regardless.


Edited to add:  We love each other. Always have, and always will.  :o)


(I sorta thought that went without saying, but the post looked all wrong without it.)

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/17/2009 4:47:05 AM   
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the trouble with that is it bleeds into simple things like kissing, lying in bed together, having them touch you in the moring - and it doesnt just happen to the oldies.

a g/f of mine had a guy who was crazy about her. he was a hunk but that initial rush of attraction just dwindled and died and she spent two months trying to avoid any sort of physical contact with him and just gave him the run around. he ended up spanking the hell out of her arse and walking out. at which point she went 'oh! - whered he go!!' and she was a nilla!

you cant make youreself physically attracted to someone but you can love them beyond the physical if love is there and i dont think there is anything more tragic than dumping someones ass cos theyre physical body has succombed to age. presumably theirs has too.

i was talking to an 80 year old woman about sex the other day. she told me it was still good.

i have a joke:

a guy has to go to the doctor for some heart pills and the doc says 'this is going to affect youre libido'. the man asks in what way. the doc says 'in-frequently' the man asks 'is that two words or one'

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RE: What do you do when you STOP being physically attra... - 12/17/2009 5:43:39 AM   
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Hope this isn't considered a thread-jack. I really feel I have to share this and hope it's worth consideration:

It makes me sad to see that anyone would turn away from his partner because she'd "let her looks go," and "didn't care anymore." There may have been several reasons why she turned from svelte sex goddess to pepperpot frump in the years you knew her. What makes me sadder, from what I believe I understand, is that the males in the relationship in which the females "failed to maintain" didn't seem to care enough to find out why she had and why she didn't seem to care and to do what they could to repair any damage they may have done to the relationship. Trust me, she cared.

I, for one, experienced a very bad year, my first year here . (I was isolated, living with a boob of a man, no car and no busline, couldn't work a decent job because I couldn't get to one.) I ballooned from a slender 110 lbs to 150 in less than a year. I was depressed and have been, sometimes more so than others, ever since. I haven't managed to bring myself back into the frame of mind I had when I was 31, so much hardship hit me that first year, and most of it hasn't left. If I didn't have such a powerful will, I'd have given up on striving to really live, a long time ago.

It takes a strong commitment to partnership to work out what can be worked out and to accept what can't be changed. Women tend to change considerably, as they get older. Making babies is hard on the body, chemical/hormonal changes affect us more dramatically, as we age. It's not just our bodies, either. After a while, if she feels she's not getting fulfilled in her home, and her life, in general (and I don't mean sex, necessarily), she might just let it all go.

Something to think about, when your sex kitten turns into a fat cat?

QR - a fat cat

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