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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

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ORIGINAL: Level

I have no interest in a woman playing hard to get. Life is too short.

So then why is this always communicated to us? Surely there is some truth to it?

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So I am interested about what you feel about these opposing views in society and how they play out here? Does a submissive have to fear being cast aside for a bigger challenge?

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

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So I am interested about what you feel about these opposing views in society and how they play out here? Does a submissive have to fear being cast aside for a bigger challenge?

So, i havent read the thread, but this particular concept came up in recent conversation between myself and Master.

i asked him almost that exact question....mentioning that i dont play poker with my interpersonal relationships and how i kind of tipped my hand both sexually and in an M/s sense pretty early on in our relationship. And i wondered if he would have preferred a bit more of a challenge in that department.

He said, no. His goal in any dynamic is to reach a level of enslavement that he wants, and then to just do what is necessary to maintain that level. If it continues to be a struggle after a certain amount of time, it isnt going to happen for whatever reason.

To me, i see challenges and obstacles to negociate all around me in daily life, puzzles to solve....etc. i would much rather have one place i can go, that i know where i stand, where things are open and clear and honest and where i know exactly what to do, when and how.

A place where the only question is, how much can we enjoy this peace before we are interrupted once again by the outside?

For this and about a bazillion other reasons, i am grateful to allowed to be in his life.

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ORIGINAL: persephonee

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So I am interested about what you feel about these opposing views in society and how they play out here? Does a submissive have to fear being cast aside for a bigger challenge?

So, i havent read the thread, but this particular concept came up in recent conversation between myself and Master.

i asked him almost that exact question....mentioning that i dont play poker with my interpersonal relationships and how i kind of tipped my hand both sexually and in an M/s sense pretty early on in our relationship. And i wondered if he would have preferred a bit more of a challenge in that department.

He said, no. His goal in any dynamic is to reach a level of enslavement that he wants, and then to just do what is necessary to maintain that level. If it continues to be a struggle after a certain amount of time, it isnt going to happen for whatever reason.

To me, i see challenges and obstacles to negociate all around me in daily life, puzzles to solve....etc. i would much rather have one place i can go, that i know where i stand, where things are open and clear and honest and where i know exactly what to do, when and how.

A place where the only question is, how much can we enjoy this peace before we are interrupted once again by the outside?

For this and about a bazillion other reasons, i am grateful to allowed to be in his life.

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ORIGINAL: lally2

do you think it has alot to do with timming and of two people meeting, connecting at a time in their lives when they are both ready to commit.

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This is what I wish for you, my dear lushy. The process of the want, the process of the need. The layer by layer peeling of your free self into submission as he inspires it from you, as he shows his responsibility to your care and your needs as he shows himself worthy.

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we are told to play hard to get. To be a challenge. We shouldnt be too easy. When the challenge is gone hes gone.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

**giggling at "routine seduction"**

This is a great thread, and I don't feel that I have anything to add, not being a subly type. I WILL say that this is also an issue for D types, because the common run of men OBJECTIFY us, and rarely approach us as human women. We are some kind of fantasy figure, and we are supposed to do X, Y, Z, and enjoy A, B, C. And what do you MEAN we like sucking cock?

I am very hard to get indeed. I have no problem with that whatsoever. I also have no trouble with fucking on the first date ( or just skipping the date entirely, let's be real here!). Still, sportfucking isn't as fun as it was ten years ago. Now it feels like a waste of time that I could have spent doing something ELSE, alone or with someone who was interacting with ME, not a placeholder person.

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ORIGINAL: rockspider

Well experience has told me that this hard to get attitude is very likely to get me rather pissed off, as i mostly see it as a lack of interest. Besides the women I can look back on in my life, i would say that the ones who i could call easy was the ones i remember for the best. Certainly, the ones i regret that i didn't stick to, was in my bed on the first date. Why it didn't work out is another story, but certainly in no way connected to the time it took to get them there.

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ORIGINAL: wykkidesire2plsU

Maybe he seemed emotionally unavailable because he wasn't sure about the relationship.

i say this becuase i will finally find someone i like - i will really like them... for about 3 days.
Then start slowly seeing things i didnt see before and the initial chemistry dies. Then i spend about three days trying to act like i like them hoping it will come back, then it doesnt. Or i can't think of a nice way to break it off. So i become more emotionally distant, until two weeks later i break it off anyway and should have right away, it would have been nicer.

i will say when i do find the right connection, the flow is so real i dont even think about am i being to easy to get, it is just two people digging what the other has for offer :0. Also with the right dominant, i dont feel the urge to, so maybe yall just arent right mix, get a Master that has time for someone and can show it :).

i also take alot longer now to really get to know someone since i did identify that i was doing this. Well, with the help of a mentor or two. :)

Really not sure if this is advice or not, or just a supporting you sister! post, but it sounds like the honey moon period is over. He is either the type that will never be emotionally available, or he for some reason isnt in your dymamic. Get thee out of there and find it girl, dont settle :)