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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

You left out Atheist fighting Tibetians

I guess the Chi-Coms don't fit your template though do they?

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I have had enough of wars, I am sick of Protestants fighting Catholics, Jews fighting Muslims, Sunnis fighting Shia and so on and so on it goes. I don't think it's going to make any difference whatever I do quite frankly, people are going to believe whatever they want to believe. This topic bothers me because I was very religious for many years and it significantly affected my life, in fact, I would have done things much differently if it were not for being religious.

I used to accept whatever came my way and didn't take any action in many instances to change what was going on. I just accepted the situation whatever it was and usually didn't try to fight it too much if I disagreed. But now that I can see there isn't any such thing as God's will; these days I believe in my own free will so I can see that if I want something to be different I'm going to have to be the agent of that change.

I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone but I just know that I need to do what I think is right and not what some illusionary man in the sky would like as interpreted to me by Rush Limbaugh or Pat Robertson. So when you talk about what should worry me, my reply is, it does worry me because that is exactly what's happening now. Because they are not replacing the Bible but they are twisting its meaning to suit their own purposes. Indeed, someone had a thread on here several weeks ago concerning conservative is rewriting the Bible and interpreting it so that it fit with their right wing philosophy and ideology. So I guess they're doing both.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nor have i had a believer do these things. In fact, i never had a believer tell me that i am stupid, pathetic, crazy, ect. But i have had lots of atheists do this... and on these boards.

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I don't see how I'm insulting you because I don't understand your point of view. I didn't call you any names, you called yourself those names. All I'm trying to say is that I do not understand your logic. As Mr. Spock would say, ' it's illogical.'

And I don't think you're stupid, I probably think I'm more stupid than you.

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This guy is not a Buddhist, he is a phony just like Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson and Jim Baker and all the rest of them.

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I am a bad guy because I tell the truth? I don't think so.

I'm the bad guy because I like new and interesting stories? I don't think so.

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Your right about nonbelievers coming out of the closet, I will agree with you on that one. I believe more have to come out of the closet and explain why we are still believing 2000 year old fantasies when we did not have the science is ridiculous. ''Oh Lord, why hast thou forsaken me? '' Because I don't exist I can't help you.

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If I start a thread it's because I find it interesting or I feel strongly about it.

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Buddhists do not believe in god.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

I have on occasion tried to think of a way to make the argument for that position in a cogent manner and I have never come up with one so easily understood and straight forward as you have made.

A tip of the hat to you from me.

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Why, thank you very much. I've had the same reaction to a number of your own posts. A very merry christmas to you and yours!

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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nothing the professor said is important.

Bingo!! He's giving his opinion on a topic that most of us are sick of, a topic with no immediate relevance, a topic you post about on an almost weekly basis. We have discussed this ad nauseum, if  there were some topical relevance to the post, say some connection to something in the news or perhaps some actual threat to somebody's freedom then we would welcome the post.

But this thread has none of that, it is effectively an atheist mass...a bunch of atheists have paid money to hear some other atheist tell them they are right...when you look at it that way its not that different from church now is it.

And we are not attacking you, nobody has attacked you, you have done the attacking (you called all religious people liars). What we have done is inform you that we are sick to death of your endless atheist proselytizing & your attempts to pick yet another fight. We know your views on this subject, and showing us how many "important" people agree with you does nothing to persuade those who disagree with you. It does, however, make some of us wonder why you are so insecure in your beliefs, why do you feel the need to trumpet your beliefs incessantly? Why do you feel the need to belittle those who hold opposite beliefs?

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I want the truth, whatever it is; God or no God. Besides, I thought we were allowed to talk about religion, or, a lack of it here. I’m not afraid of the truth whatever it is.

I don’t like being lied to and I just wanted to add that there isn't anything else out there, and I mean God.


The Known Universe - The Best of YouTube

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I just wanted to add this other article about Scientology in case some people have not seen it:

Scientology Founder Was Revealed As A Fake Over 30 Years Ago

Secret mission to expose L. Ron Hubbard as a fake - Times Online

The founder of Scientology, L..Ron Hubbard Was revealed as a fake, by British Diplomats over 3 decades ago.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6740831.ece

Ok, you "want the truth" and you don't like being "lied to" but you believe in that "global warming religion" crap?
Even after they've been exposed as liars and frauds!
I think someone needs an INTERVENTION!

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Actions along with the words watch... the truth there find you will.

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ORIGINAL: Brain

This guy had an operation in the United States, I think it was to get a new liver, and then he ratted out his former colleagues to get into and out of the United States to have his operation at UCLA Hospital.

I left it out because I don't know a great deal about Asia and I don't even know if Buddhism is a religion; do they have a God? I learned recently about a man who became a Buddhist in Japan. He was a former member of the Japanese mafia and he used to behead and execute people.

This guy is not a Buddhist, he is a phony just like Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson and Jim Baker and all the rest of them.

Japan — Ganster boss who turned to Buddhism

One of Japan’s most feared yakuza has renounced violence and found Buddhism. A genuine conversion? Or a desperate attempt to avoid assassination at the hands of his enemies? David McNeill reports

It sounds like the opening of a terrible yakuza movie, but this is what took place in this picture-perfect setting when Tadamasa Goto, one of Japan’s most feared mob bosses, stepped out of the shadows this week and into the path of God.

http://www.buddhachannel.tv/portail/spip.php?article5220

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

You left out Atheist fighting Tibetians

I guess the Chi-Coms don't fit your template though do they?

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ORIGINAL: Brain

I have had enough of wars, I am sick of Protestants fighting Catholics, Jews fighting Muslims, Sunnis fighting Shia and so on and so on it goes. I don't think it's going to make any difference whatever I do quite frankly, people are going to believe whatever they want to believe. This topic bothers me because I was very religious for many years and it significantly affected my life, in fact, I would have done things much differently if it were not for being religious.

I used to accept whatever came my way and didn't take any action in many instances to change what was going on. I just accepted the situation whatever it was and usually didn't try to fight it too much if I disagreed. But now that I can see there isn't any such thing as God's will; these days I believe in my own free will so I can see that if I want something to be different I'm going to have to be the agent of that change.

I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone but I just know that I need to do what I think is right and not what some illusionary man in the sky would like as interpreted to me by Rush Limbaugh or Pat Robertson. So when you talk about what should worry me, my reply is, it does worry me because that is exactly what's happening now. Because they are not replacing the Bible but they are twisting its meaning to suit their own purposes. Indeed, someone had a thread on here several weeks ago concerning conservative is rewriting the Bible and interpreting it so that it fit with their right wing philosophy and ideology. So I guess they're doing both.

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I’m not trying to belittle anybody, I think I’m trying to understand something that doesn’t make sense.

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ORIGINAL: Brain
I’m not insecure in my beliefs, I’ve never been more certain at any time in my life that there is no such thing as God as I am now.

I’m not trying to belittle anybody, I think I’m trying to understand something that doesn’t make sense. Just like George Carlin said, “It’s all very confusing.”

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You know, I am 50 years old, and in my half century I have lived all over the world and met people of damn near every faith imaginable....and never once has a creationist ever tried to convince me of anything unless I asked them their views....in fact the only people who have tried to convert me are atheists...Even the mormons who took me on a day trip with a bunch of their missionaries never once tried to sway me. So what is it about you atheists that drives you to proseletyze so vehemenantly...what gives?