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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/21/2006 4:23:37 PM

Lordandmaster

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The fact that I almost always disagreed with his posts has nothing to do with whether it's acceptable to name other users in the forums. I'm pretty sure it's against the TOS, in fact. But I'll leave the policing to the mods.

How happy would YOU be if a former slave started spewing all sorts of private details of your relationship in a public forum? The boards have a purpose, and he-said-she-said isn't one of them.

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ORIGINAL: IronBear

If and only if SirSix had not been a part of the forum community and if ir were not known generally that ella was his kajira and if he had not been so much in the public eye with a multitude of posts of which you were highly critical at times, I would have agreed with you.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 4:24:26 AM

unownedredhead

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

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ORIGINAL: cillydom
What we need is a definition of just what dominance means in relation to the needs of submissive women.
A man that just wants to give orders and have a woman at his beck and call is not it.
There doesn’t seem to be an appreciation of what a good dom puts into a d/s relationship, what he brings to the table so to speak.
Women should try to get an appreciation of why he wants a submissive not just what his kink is.
Lots of men have kinky fantasies, few have dominant needs and fantasies.
You have to learn to separate the two.

What you couldn't know old chap, is that bella's ex Master identified as Gorean (Not all there were to impressed with him ). However theGorean slavery can have it's own specific views, and whilst what he did was within his rights to do so, I just disagee with the way it was done and my gut feeling is that he doesn't understand what it is to be Gorean.. My purpose here is for bella who I happen to like for a number of reasons not the least is her alternative religion of which I happen to me a Priest...

Master Ironbear

You are a Priest? My mother was a nun, a catholic nun until she met my father, now that is a story I would love to tell you around a campfire.

Belladonna I ache for you. My worst fears are what you have lived though. Please don't judge all Masters by his behavior cling to the idea there is an IB out there for you.

dina

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 4:27:41 AM

unownedredhead

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
OK, I thought this thread was nauseating from the beginning, but naming names can't possibly be acceptable.

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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82
SirSix and i have completly ended communication.....

Master Lordandmaster,

I felt the same but did not know if I should say anything.

dina

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 4:28:39 AM

Theone99

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Time is the answer. In time you will see, that the relationship was not ment to be.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 5:47:25 AM

IronBear

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quote:

ORIGINAL: unownedredhead
Master Ironbear

You are a Priest? My mother was a nun, a catholic nun until she met my father, now that is a story I would love to tell you around a campfire.

dina

Pagan Priest sweet one, have been one for the last 37, no 38 years now..

<< Wanders off still thinking about a large barbed wire canoeand a holy paddle and how long it would take to paddle the duck pond and captue nina then capture fyre and return with them to Aussie...........>>

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 5:51:41 AM

IronBear

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The fact that I almost always disagreed with his posts has nothing to do with whether it's acceptable to name other users in the forums. I'm pretty sure it's against the TOS, in fact. But I'll leave the policing to the mods.

How happy would YOU be if a former slave started spewing all sorts of private details of your relationship in a public forum? The boards have a purpose, and he-said-she-said isn't one of them.

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

If and only if SirSix had not been a part of the forum community and if ir were not known generally that ella was his kajira and if he had not been so much in the public eye with a multitude of posts of which you were highly critical at times, I would have agreed with you.

I had that happen but not a slave and it wasn't in this lifestyle, and she never needed to mention my name every one knew who was involved. I got over it as I always do. I do see your point, I can also see hers as well which is why I made the comment that we would probably agree to disagree.. I rarely disagree with you LaM, I just dont always agree with you completely..

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 7:14:20 AM

PanDaemon

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Take the advice of most others on here and seek a new Master who has respect for his submissive. Trust, respect, honesty and consistency are the very least you should be able to expect. Too many players have no concept of real submission and even less of good Mastery.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 7:19:18 AM

Belladonna82

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Well i posted it because i knew everyone knew who i spoke about. We were both very active on the board for a good amount of time. I was not trying to be neg. and acctualy Sir and I began to talk again...as friends. I do not know what will come of it nor will I try to guess because my luck I would be wrong. Sir made alot of mistakes with me but maybe it will serve me well in the future. A slave Gorean or other wise holds her Master up high and I posted on here to get others opinions and maybe a little wisdom from either Masters or slaves who have been thru a ruff split. Thank you Iron Bear for being so supportive , you have always been a great friend and full of wisdom that comes from experience.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 7:31:14 AM

BlkTXDom2004

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After what I have heard...it's no wonder WHY Collarme has all the players and 'Wannabe' Doms.

BellaDonna, move on to the next Dom...one that will be honest. I have experienced issues like this from subs, and fellow Doms and Dommes - and this is not a fun thing to go through.

Were I in his shoes, I'd come forth. (I am honest with my sub wife, but I don't hold anything back. When I got married, I focused on her happiness.)

This 'player' ruins things for those on Collarme...that ARE 110% sincere.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 11:53:25 AM

Belladonna82

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Yeah that is true but honostly the world is full of them. I am hoping he comes forth because I think it would be better for me....and him really because if u hold crap in it normaly eats at u.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 2:51:54 PM

fyreredsub

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sissy, i've already told you privately what i think...
several here have voiced the same thoughts.
i love you
but it is time to heal you and think of your needs and wants.
you have always been there for me, now it is my turn

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 2:59:35 PM

MSTRSNGODDESS4U

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my dear bella, this sounds so familiar to me. have you ever been with this Dominant in person? has he done this before to you? silence and punishing a submissive by not talking to her can hurt her selfesteem greatly. you didn't do anything wrong, all you wanted was to be with your Master. are you in love with him? it hurts sometimes but sometimes we have to make decisions in order to go on with our life. I am here to listen, even I am as a PRO advertised, I learned from the bottom and been through hell and back. I could tell you stories ...........

Mistress Angelika

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 3:48:29 PM

Belladonna82

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Yes Ma'am I was in love with him greatly. I lived at his feet for quite some time before this. Sir has now found someone not in the lifestyle and has told me today to forget him so I guess as my last order I must. I have taken sissy(fyreredsubs) advice and have decided to work on me...I do not have the strength to serve as a 24/7 slave right now although my desire is there to do so I can not emotional handle the training by anouthers hand. Its time I guess I learn how to train myself in a sence. Thanks for the advice :)

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 5:09:12 PM

MasterBuckeye

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I think you wannabee Master found a new playmate. Your much better off with out him. Best of luck to you, and remember learn from this, every experience is a learning experience.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 6:15:57 PM

IronBear

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterBuckeye

I think you wannabee Master found a new playmate. Your much better off with out him. Best of luck to you, and remember learn from this, every experience is a learning experience.

I have a problem with those who throw around the lable of "Wannabee" when it is probable that they do not know the person involved. It matters little what a number of people here have said, most of them were here also when he was oinline and very actiove in the forums including the Gorean Forum.. At least their opinions are based on the experience they had interacting with him. I'm not defending his action which I do not agreewith, but I have spent time talking to him out of the forums as well as interacting with him here. What I will say is that as one who identified as a Gorean Free man and Master, he was within his rights to do as he wished with his slave including how he disposed of her. That was his right! That a number of us disagree with his methods is a moot point and some of us do spend time helping those who are hurt by breakups and releases. Of course you are entitled to have and express you opinions on any subject.. What I am saying is that it is better to have more facts before making accusations about what some one is first.. Nothing personal mate just my personal views you go right a head and do what is right for you.

Cheers

< Message edited by IronBear -- 3/22/2006 6:16:34 PM >

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 6:21:29 PM

Wolfspet

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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

>snip<

A aside & slight hijack.

I just want to say that of all the people I read here and the main forums I frequent on another site, you are the one Gorean who has taught me tolerance of your "style" (for lack of a better terminology for me).

This young woman is lucky to have someone like you to help her through this trying time.
OpikwehOneh (walk in the light)

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 6:57:55 PM

maybemaybenot

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Bella:

Stay true to yourself and be strong.

For the last two weeks your former Master has yanked your emotions around like a child with a pull toy. And by your posts of today, the morning started off with a nice talk about being friends and the day ended with a dismissal. I don't like reading into things when I do not have the whole story, but it * appears* you were being ,what I call , Back up Betty. New chickie on the horizon, but just in case, he better keep the other one on a string.

You have a good support network with IB and fyreredsub. Lean on your friends and let their strength bring you your own strength. Take your time to heal, and hug yourself everyday.

mbmbn

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 7:38:30 PM

fyreredsub

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babydoll lets get you strong again

quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

Yes Ma'am I was in love with him greatly. I lived at his feet for quite some time before this. Sir has now found someone not in the lifestyle and has told me today to forget him so I guess as my last order I must. I have taken sissy(fyreredsubs) advice and have decided to work on me...I do not have the strength to serve as a 24/7 slave right now although my desire is there to do so I can not emotional handle the training by anouthers hand. Its time I guess I learn how to train myself in a sence. Thanks for the advice :)

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 7:40:13 PM

IronBear

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Hou Wolfspet,

Thank you lass

Wayuha eyahyah nasah wateh
(May the hunt be good)

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Your attitude, words & actions are yours. Take responsibility for them and the consequences they incur.

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RE: Just a question for those on here - 3/22/2006 7:47:19 PM

fyreredsub

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thank you for this Master IB.
i know i can not say anything bad about her former Master here.

i dont like what is going on but it is the ways of gor. he changed his mind about what he wanted in life.

there was a time he and sissy were there for me.He gave me his protection at a point in time.

it upsets me to see this go on for i care deeply about them both but sissy, well, she is sissy and i love her and it is her i am concerned with.

i'm trying to talk her into a trip here for a few days just to get away and be spoiled a bit by her big sissy.(

help me out ,lol,plzzzzzzz).

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterBuckeye

I think you wannabee Master found a new playmate. Your much better off with out him. Best of luck to you, and remember learn from this, every experience is a learning experience.

I have a problem with those who throw around the lable of "Wannabee" when it is probable that they do not know the person involved. It matters little what a number of people here have said, most of them were here also when he was oinline and very actiove in the forums including the Gorean Forum.. At least their opinions are based on the experience they had interacting with him. I'm not defending his action which I do not agreewith, but I have spent time talking to him out of the forums as well as interacting with him here. What I will say is that as one who identified as a Gorean Free man and Master, he was within his rights to do as he wished with his slave including how he disposed of her. That was his right! That a number of us disagree with his methods is a moot point and some of us do spend time helping those who are hurt by breakups and releases. Of course you are entitled to have and express you opinions on any subject.. What I am saying is that it is better to have more facts before making accusations about what some one is first.. Nothing personal mate just my personal views you go right a head and do what is right for you.

Cheers

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