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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:24:10 PM

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You just aren't enough to keep my interest.

That's the best news I've heard all night.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:30:49 PM

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And if you're the sort who is willing to ascribe motivations without evidence, then every encounter with a thoughtless and inconsiderate person becomes proof of the rampant misogny, misandry, racism, reverse racism, Christian persecution, persecution of Christians, etc.

Which is precisely how the various -isms start: ascribing characteristics without evidence.

The method being used to identify prejudices is, in fact, the method by which those prejudices arise.

Very nice observation. By some past posting, I had pegged you for a dimwit. My apologies.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:38:13 PM

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Looking at the fictional world of Gor, that is very primitive, no modern technology, and strength of arms oftenj determined many things, then physical might does mean more. That is the ficitional world of Gor though. Now if you can pull some quotes from the series that made you believe this is an over all view I would be interested to see them, and discuss them.

To make my point, here and now I know a female from CM (though she has not posted in a long, long time), that if we are stuck in a swamp, she is worth more than just about anyone else I know of. I also will make sure that she is in charge and that everyone better do as she says, or they will have my misogynistic boot up there ass so far they can taste my shoe leather. You see the female I am speaking of has a lot of merit in the wilderness, especially in swampy areas, and as a Gorean I place value on things based upon merit and circumstantial value. Do I care if she has a dick? Nope, because she has the knowledge and value needed in a swamp, and it surpasses mine.

Unless I want to fuck something, I don't care as much about gender, as I do about merit, ability and circumstantial value.

What most people do not like is that when all else fails, violence is the last resort in conflict resolution. In general males are better at violence than females. Please notice the words "in general". This simple fact was emphasized recently during Katrina, and is emphasized daily around the world. This does not mean that a female cannot kick the shit out of me or another man, in fact I know one that is an MMA fighter that I would definately use dirty in-fighting tactics if I let her get close enough to go HTH. Instead I would likely shoot her, as I consider her that deadly in HTH. There are no absolutes, but there are differences in the genders. These differences are good things, because when things are in harmony they fit into one another.

Now if someone said that Gor seems to attract a lot of misogynist, I may actually agree with that, but most of them are only Gorean for the slave girls, and when in the company of other Gorean males find themselves at the bottom of the pecking order. I have rambled enough, if you want to continue with this I am sure Kimveri, or one of the others will do so, but I recommend it be put in the Gorean section.

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I don't think Gorean philosophy is inherently misogynstic, it's androcentric, which isn't quite the same thing: it isn't saying women are worthless, it's just saying men are worth more.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:40:22 PM

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C'mon, if it wasn't that way it wouldn't be Gor.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:54:12 PM

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Ooops I saw the part about preferring your women unmarried. Ah unrequited love. So sad. Yeah I might stay now.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:55:40 PM

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i only hate women that turn me down, which is pretty much all of them

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:56:28 PM

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Ahhh now I remember.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2976522/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2976753

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:56:51 PM

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i only hate women that turn me down, which is pretty much all of them

That's the source of a lot of misogyny - at least you're not alone, dude, there there *pat pat*.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 6:58:48 PM

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Ahhh now I remember.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2976522/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2976753

which means?

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:01:09 PM

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kittin now that I decided to stay do you prefer foie gras with sauterne or champagne? I wonder what Loki prefers, the super size or the big gulp?

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:02:18 PM

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Sauternes, of course. Otherwise, a Laurent Perrier Rose will do the trick.

C'est beau, la vie :-) .

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:02:33 PM

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i only hate women that turn me down, which is pretty much all of them

Yeah, they a piece a work - I don't have no bodies buried anywhere, what more do you need to know?

I won't do nothin' to you that years of psychological therapy can't fix.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:04:21 PM

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Please forgive me I knew I left off the "s" on sauternes. Do you still love me? ;)

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:05:09 PM

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what more do you need to know?

Can you laugh? Are you kind? Are you intelligent? Do you have soft hands that can slap hard? Can you use your tongue? Are you sensually inclined? WILL YOU BE A FRIEND?

These are some of the things that a woman might want to know :-) .

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:06:53 PM

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Oh and yes la vie is indeed c'est beau. Of course that is for those of us that choose to see the beauty and good love.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:08:17 PM

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Ohhh soft hands that slap hard. Perfect. My favorite. Kittin you are so so right.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:09:51 PM

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Ahhh now I remember.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_2976522/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2976753

which means?

To you? Dig deeper. Or I can do it for you.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:17:26 PM

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I was at work all day and missed the shouting- but in catching up, this caught my eye-

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I am curious -- how many of you who don't LIKE Goreans or Gorean living etc believe you would be able to identify a Gorean offline by simple interaction with them on a basic level of acquaintances or even friendship if they don't tell you they are in fact Gorean and you don't have any interactions with their slaves?
angel

This was far more intellectually provocative of a comment than you may have intended!

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:23:28 PM

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what more do you need to know?

Can you laugh? Are you kind? Are you intelligent? Do you have soft hands that can slap hard? Can you use your tongue? Are you sensually inclined? WILL YOU BE A FRIEND?

These are some of the things that a woman might want to know :-) .

I thought I just told a joke, you musta missed it.

I use a lot of Cocoa butter, I have a black belt in cunnilingus, an almost obsessive knowledge of anatomy, physiology, and human sexual response, lately, I find most women appear to be repulsed by the notion of foreplay, go figure, and I'm very philosophical.

For instance: why is it that only married women ask questions like that?

Most of the women on this site are marketing service for a sugar daddy, that's not misogyny, it's just being realistic - but if calling misogyny makes it easier then go for it.

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RE: Misogyny and BDSM - 12/30/2009 7:28:05 PM

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I'm glad to hear that you're philosophical. That's the most important quality. Far more valuable than being able to lick a clit: our moistened fingers can take care of that one very well, if push comes to shove :-) .

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