OrionTheWolf
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I never figured you were gone, just hid your profile, and pulled a dramatic flounce. Your communication skills still need some work, because if you are in a medium, that you are supposedly a professional at (writer), you are failing to convey what you actually mean.
I find that a very useless criticism. I don't think anyone is really making any effort to understand what I mean, and I think many people are very intentionally reading my posts with malign intent, seeking to distort, twist and ridicule everything I say.
Some may well be twisting your words once the flame wars started, but not before that. Some have tried to engage you in discussion, and you have either attacked them, or written in a way that did not convey what you intended. You have to own your words, especially as a writer, so the error in communication is not one sided. Ignoring that means that when ever you run into this situation, it will likely happen the same way each time. If you make a change on your side though, then the outcome has a chance of changing. Do you see what I am saying?
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BTW, you are failing as a psychonaut as well, because you are creating an internal image, rather than discovering what is there. You seem to cast no "shadow", but in fact we all do. You have created the "Wise Old Man", when in fact the "Fox" is prevelant within the Wise Old Man's guise. This is at least what I am seeing from your posts, which sometimes is not a true measure of a person, but often it is what they really are without filters. If you are truly interested in being a soul sailor, might I suggest a bit of ego death to assist you. Some may not understand what I have said in this last paragraph, but if you are as educated as you portray yourself to be, you will know exactly what is being said.
I do understand what you're saying, but I think you're entirely out of line. You don't know me, and to assume you have the sort of deep insight into me that you would need to tell me that I'm "failing as a psychonaut" from internet posts that you are reading with a fair amount of prejudice is an act both condescending and pompous.
If that is how it is coming across, allow me to try again slightly differently. On the internet people often come across without the same societal filters they would face to face. This has different effects, and one of them is that often it shows many of the personality traits or inner workings very blatantly. These are observations, based upon your words.
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The problem is that if I act from an egoless space on an online forum, you know what happens? It's called lurking. Forever. Everyone here has some bit of their ego on the line, and not a single one of you would enjoy being treated like I'm being treated. And I'll believe you'd deal with it better when I see it happen to you. I'm really not any more pompous than anyone else here, Mr. I Can See Into Your Soul Through The Internet. I'm not any more sexist or crass that Aynne and her lovely "Psychotwat" monkier. I'm not any more long winded or a posuer than Anwar. I haven't done anything extraordinary to deserve to be ganged up on and given the treatment.
I am not saying act from an egoless space, I am suggesting leading with your ego a little less. Whether we would enjoy being treated like you are being treated, matters not. You wrote certain things, and acted in a certain way, and now the consequences are happening. That is called life, and it is often harsh, but my beliefs are that it is supposed to be harsh. Looking at the word choice and approach in this paragraphs shows, at least subconsciously, that you want things to continue as they are.
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You know what I think I did wrong? I think I'm guilty of being new and not wanting to play forum bitch for the amusement of this small group of extra nasty collered subs who seem to think they have to prove they are only submitting to one man by attacking any self-proclaimed dominant male who doesn't treat them like Dommes.
If your hypothesis was correct, then everyone that is new would be treated the same way, and they are not. Try researching the approach some of those new people made. Own up and take responsibility for your words and actions, this is one of the place I observe that you are failing on that inward journey. Even here in this paragraph you are attempting to excuse how you have acted, and create something that is not accurate so you do not have to face the portion of all of this that you created.
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And I think there's a lot of dickheads here, like Ebony Wood, that know they can look dominant by attacking once the forum hags have selected a target. It's whole lot of very obvious social politics and monkey-mob mentality. And the people who got caught up in it should be far, far more embarassed and ashamed at joing in with a mob frenzy than I should be (and am) at getting defensive when I'm actually being attacked by a mob.
Look you stepped on your dick, and when it got pointed out, you started on the attack as much as any other. You could have taken a different approach without appearing submissive or a "bitch". You are the one that chose this tactic, and you are continuing with it. So as long as you continue, it is going to continue. Now the question becomes what do you find more important, for it to stop, or for your ego to be satisfied? Your choice, people are not puppet masters unless you allow them to be.
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I want to be able to use this site for what its intended, and I want to be able to participate in the forums -- and be just as snarky, stupid, and often wrong as anyone else -- so that I have an increased chance of meeting someone.
If that is your priority then here is my advice, ignore the baiting and flames. Move onto other topics and post positive contributions.
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But I'm just a human being. If people here are going to choose to make me the forum bitch and start mocking me all the time over every piddly thing I say just because it's "funny" to make someone a pariah, then I'm pretty much fucked, aren't I? I can't compete against a dozen people determined to make me look like a fool. Just the fact that they agree with each as part of the process makes it appear true, and often the appearance of truth has more effect than what is true.
Look you have to own some of your own behavior. You will find that several of us that has/had a problem with you and what you said, have been at each other before and likely will again. I am going to leave my comments about this there, as I would like for this to have a positive impact (hopefully).
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I just wish people would be aware of how they are acting collectively. Not organized, but still collectively. How would any of you feel being treated like this?
You cannot control others, just yourself. Many here would like for you to be aware of how you are acting. Try to eliminate any duplicity in your examination of actions.
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And fuck the first person who tries to say that a mob ganging up on one person for utterly piddly shit is fair or right. You're a fucking creep if you think that.
Fair and right exist only as ideals, and is rarely reached in life. This is why fair and right mean less, then how things are. We are not going to create some utopian world where the meta-ethics of Kant actually apply. Look at the fact that you own some of this, and work on what you own. The rest will work itself out.
Well there is my advice, and last attempt to try and be positive to you, until I see some effort. You say you are a smart guy, so now it is the time to show it. Try reading some Tao Tzu, it really would help in this situation.
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