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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:03:56 PM   
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yes i do, and i get positive feedback from those that agree with me, why the hell do you think i persist in what i say, it's not to please you, so get over yourself not every one shares your way

Darn.  I must have missed that.  Could you put the links up here where I missed people agreeing with you?



i know your going to not believe it but i get cmail from some that are dismayed by the behavior in the threads

and yes there are posts of support in the threads, but of course with your blinders on you don't see them

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:05:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know that I can say it was a mistake.  Using hindsight and retrospection,  I still don't know what I would have done different.  But one regret was experiencing the harm from someone who was what the DSM IV would define as a sexual sadist.  Took some time for the physical and emotional scars to heal.  Sometimes you can do all the right things, and still find yourself in the wrong situation.




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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:06:38 PM   
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< Message edited by wisdomtogive -- 12/31/2009 8:08:02 PM >

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:06:38 PM   
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Oh don't be all red-faced, we've all done it.   

Gulp.  Now I don't feel quite so bad, knowing that I'm not the only one. 


Hee hee! Yes, this is why i don't use a cam anymore, and i don't care when guys flip out because i don't have one.  If they're the right Owner/Master for me, he understands.... 



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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:06:42 PM   
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ETA.....  Btw, there really is a difference between learning to accept service and learning to do it with grace.  Think about it.

Well said, LadyPact.  Just as there is a difference between serving gracefully and just serving.

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:08:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		the way i use to be sure is i actually suggest to them that i may be too much for them and then i let them try to convince me i'm not

the next time i want it to last

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:08:46 PM   
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ETA.....  Btw, there really is a difference between learning to accept service and learning to do it with grace.  Think about it.

Well said, LadyPact.  Just as there is a difference between serving gracefully and just serving.


Absolutely.  Wise ladies.    Thank you.


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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:09:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Among my mistakes would be someone who was brand new, She wanted to experience "sub space" so badly she was never going to get there.

She yelled her safe word pretty much every time I walked into the room.

I stayed much longer than I should have, for both our sakes


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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:09:31 PM   
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i edited this by deleting it. not going to lower myself


ty, now lets try to be friends, i'm still willing

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:12:42 PM   
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ETA.....  Btw, there really is a difference between learning to accept service and learning to do it with grace.  Think about it.


true but a new subbie wants so much to serve no matter how inept she is and to be a gentleman in the traditional sense i guess tress passes on her domain

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:19:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

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ETA.....  Btw, there really is a difference between learning to accept service and learning to do it with grace.  Think about it.


true but a new subbie wants so much to serve no matter how inept she is and to be a gentleman in the traditional sense i guess tress passes on her domain


But if she's new, she may not realize what she's getting herself into.

The greatest mistake (mistake?  regret?) I've made is doubting myself and my ability and desire to surrender myself to someone.

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:20:46 PM   
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Dude, nobody out there is ever completely wrong or completely right.  Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Please take the time to listen to what folks seem to have to say to you repeatedly.  If you want to talk about how My blinders effect what I see, it's time you started looking in the mirror.

Your way is your way and I'll absolutely grant you that.  At the same time, if you are going to display your views, expect them to be challenged by those of us who have a different way.  Happens to Me all of the time.  There are a bunch of folks out there who don't agree with a damn thing that I say.  It doesn't matter to Me, since what I'm doing actually works.

Other folks out there have their own way that works that is vastly different than Mine.  I'm always fascinated with alternative methods that lead to success.  People who have found that perfect place that they fit, regardless of what anyone else says.  They have happy lives that they share with others.  Who can argue with that?

But if what you're doing doesn't work, the common denominator really is you.


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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:22:31 PM   
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what were the relationship mistakes you made after you found out about bdsm

mine was my first submissive , being new and not confident i screwed it up by not being forceful enough


Believing that if you were honest and forthcomming with others, they would be the same with you

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:23:20 PM   
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ETA.....  Btw, there really is a difference between learning to accept service and learning to do it with grace.  Think about it.

Well said, LadyPact.  Just as there is a difference between serving gracefully and just serving.

Absolutely.  An excellent point.




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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:24:49 PM   
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i edited this by deleting it. not going to lower myself


ty, now lets try to be friends, i'm still willing


i am not rude by nature, only when tired and slightly drunk. I do apologize and sent you a written cmail apology.
i will from now on respond only to the topic if other's have said something that i feel i like to exchange thoughts or ideas with.

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:25:42 PM   
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The greatest mistake (mistake?  regret?) I've made is doubting myself and my ability and desire to surrender myself to someone.


i don't see that as a mistake but uncertainty

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:26:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		my biggest mistake, although misconception would probably be more accurate, was not realizing that D/s, bdsm (or whatever you call it) doesn't change who or what a person is inside.  It won't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, or a silk purse into a sow/s ear. 

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:27:34 PM   
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Your way is your way and I'll absolutely grant you that.  At the same time, if you are going to display your views, expect them to be challenged by those of us who have a different way.  Happens to Me all of the time.  There are a bunch of folks out there who don't agree with a damn thing that I say.  It doesn't matter to Me, since what I'm doing actually works.


i love a good intellectual challenge, it's the ridicule i dislike

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:28:54 PM   
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my biggest mistake, although misconception would probably be more accurate, was not realizing that D/s, bdsm (or whatever you call it) doesn't change who or what a person is inside.  It won't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, or a silk purse into a sow/s ear. 


i think it can enhance

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RE: early mistakes - 12/31/2009 8:29:02 PM   
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ETA.....  Btw, there really is a difference between learning to accept service and learning to do it with grace.  Think about it.

Well said, LadyPact.  Just as there is a difference between serving gracefully and just serving.


I really liked what both of you said...it really boils down to the simplicity of grace. Thank you both:) for offering some wisdom for me this evening.

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