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Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 12:29:55 PM

Brain

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Better to be safe than sorry as far as I'm concerned. I think it would be horrible if a president was assassinated again, especially because he is black. Instead of improving race relations it would set things back at least 50 years. I am a risk averter and I'm not taking any chances with my life being around people with guns or smokers or riding motorcycles, and I don't like swimming either because I don't want to be another Natalie Wood or that Australian model who was eaten by a shark.

Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers?

Over the past year, Secret Service agents charged with protecting President Obama seem to have taken a keen interest in the Birther movement, the committed group of anti-Obama activists around the country who claim the president was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and is thus ineligible to serve. The idea has been widely and repeatedly debunked (see FactCheck.org's thorough takedown here), but that hasn't stopped Birthers from doggedly making their case in American courtrooms, to US attorneys, and even to a rural county grand jury, in the hopes that a judge will rule in their favor and Obama might eventually be removed from office. Those efforts have failed spectacularly, but they seem to have succeeded in placing the Birthers on the radar of the Secret Service.

At least a half-dozen prominent anti-Obama activists who've petitioned various federal agencies or courts to investigate the president's citizenship or publicly questioned his eligibility to serve say they've been visited by Secret Service or Homeland Security agents. Dr. Orly Taitz, the "Queen Bee" of the Birther movement, says, "A number of my supporters had visits from Secret Service, from different agencies, INS, Homeland Security. There are a whole number of people who got these visits to intimidate and harrass them." She says federal agents visited her home once; however, she was not there to be interviewed.*

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/secret-service-targeting-birthers

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 12:46:35 PM

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You would be dead already from worry if you lived in Milwaukee. Most of everyone I know do at least two of the things that you consider a risk. We have guns in our homes, smoke (getting less and less ) and ride Harleys. You forgot a biggie. We drink beer here to. Don't worry so much. That alone will shorten your life.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 12:58:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Brain

Better to be safe than sorry as far as I'm concerned. I think it would be horrible if a president was assassinated again, especially because he is black. Instead of improving race relations it would set things back at least 50 years. I am a risk averter and I'm not taking any chances with my life being around people with guns or smokers or riding motorcycles, and I don't like swimming either because I don't want to be another Natalie Wood or that Australian model who was eaten by a shark.

Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers?

Over the past year, Secret Service agents charged with protecting President Obama seem to have taken a keen interest in the Birther movement, the committed group of anti-Obama activists around the country who claim the president was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and is thus ineligible to serve. The idea has been widely and repeatedly debunked (see FactCheck.org's thorough takedown here), but that hasn't stopped Birthers from doggedly making their case in American courtrooms, to US attorneys, and even to a rural county grand jury, in the hopes that a judge will rule in their favor and Obama might eventually be removed from office. Those efforts have failed spectacularly, but they seem to have succeeded in placing the Birthers on the radar of the Secret Service.

At least a half-dozen prominent anti-Obama activists who've petitioned various federal agencies or courts to investigate the president's citizenship or publicly questioned his eligibility to serve say they've been visited by Secret Service or Homeland Security agents. Dr. Orly Taitz, the "Queen Bee" of the Birther movement, says, "A number of my supporters had visits from Secret Service, from different agencies, INS, Homeland Security. There are a whole number of people who got these visits to intimidate and harrass them." She says federal agents visited her home once; however, she was not there to be interviewed.*

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/01/secret-service-targeting-birthers

Brain, don't worry, people like you die in their homes shot by intruders because you don't own guns to protect yourselves. Go easy into that dark night.
P.S. I don't know if anyone told you yet but President Obama is "white" too.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 1:07:40 PM

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quote:

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You would be dead already from worry if you lived in Milwaukee. Most of everyone I know do at least two of the things that you consider a risk. We have guns in our homes, smoke (getting less and less ) and ride Harleys. You forgot a biggie. We drink beer here to. Don't worry so much. That alone will shorten your life.

There appears to be evidence to support this.

In one study:
http://psychcentral.com/news/2007/04/17/chill-out-live-longer/757.html
A neurotic personality was defined as a person with the tendency to worry, feel excessive amounts of anxiety or depression and to react to stressful life events more negatively than people with low levels of the trait. Neuroticism levels were measured using a standardized personality test.
Results of the study will be published in the print edition of the journal Psychological Science in late May. The study is available online at http://www.psychologicalscience.org.
In the study, researchers tracked the change in neuroticism levels of 1,663 aging men over a 12-year period. Using the data gathered in the first analysis, researchers calculated the men’s mortality risk over an 18-year period using the average levels and rates of change.
By the end of the study, half of those men classified as highly neurotic with increasing levels of neuroticism had died while those whose levels decreased or were classified as less neurotic had between a 75 percent and 85 percent survival rate.
Even small increases in neuroticism were shown to have negative effects. Participants with as little as a one-unit increase in neuroticism over the course of the study were shown to have a 40 percent higher chance of death than a participant who showed no change.

And a couple of others:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0826/is_2_19/ai_99987050/

http://www.usnews.com/health/family-health/heart/articles/2009/03/09/health-buzz-importance-of-a-positive-attitude-and-other-health-news.html

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 1:10:09 PM

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WTF is a Birther?

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 1:18:54 PM

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Brain, have you thought about hiring proffessionals come in and sweep your house for "bugs?"
Have there been strange cars parked in your neighborhood lately?

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 1:25:34 PM

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Have you noticed any black helicopters flying over your house ?

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 1:41:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

WTF is a Birther?

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Morons who believe President Obama wasn't born in the U.S., and hence isn't eligible to be president. It's a fun opportunity for racists to high five and slap asses, occasionally throwing in jokes about climate change.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 1:46:51 PM

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I just find it odd that a white guy might have been born in Kenya.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:04:00 PM

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Sorry, haven't read the rest of this thread, but this caught my eye so I'm responding. You can go back to your regularly scheduled program now...

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I just find it odd that a white guy might have been born in Kenya.

Ummm...you need to do a wee bit of research before you make that pronouncement, especially since my husband, who happens to be a "white guy" was born in Nairobi, Kenya in the 1960's, and there is a substantial history of "white guys" living in Kenya in the past...

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:06:02 PM

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I just find it odd that a white guy might have been born in Kenya.

It happens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Africans_of_European_ancestry#Kenya_2

Kenya
There were 60,000 white settlers living in Kenya in 1965.[12] Today, there are an estimated 30,000 whites in Kenya.[13] However, there has been an increasing number of British expatriates that, according to the BBC, number at about 32,000.[14] Evolutionary scientist Richard Dawkins was born in Kenya.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:13:49 PM

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Thank you for providing the facts Eyesopened!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:27:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: Silence8

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

WTF is a Birther?

quote:

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Morons who believe President Obama wasn't born in the U.S., and hence isn't eligible to be president. It's a fun opportunity for racists to high five and slap asses, occasionally throwing in jokes about climate change.

Ahhhh, birther aka idiot.

Thank you!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:27:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Silence8

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

WTF is a Birther?

quote:

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Morons who believe President Obama wasn't born in the U.S., and hence isn't eligible to be president. It's a fun opportunity for racists to high five and slap asses, occasionally throwing in jokes about climate change.

Silence, why doesn't he just show them his birth certificate? Case closed.
And the jokes are about the "global warming" goose stepping pinheads who are walking around in a fucking *trance* making the "goths" look believable!
Hell, the Scientologists wouldn't let them join their cult. "Get the fuck out of here you Stepford wives!"
It's pretty bad when the "DYANETICS" people don't want you! "No questionaire for you!"

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:31:27 PM

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why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:33:40 PM

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I just find it odd that a white guy might have been born in Kenya.

I just find it odd that you're literate enough to type this - do you have voice-recognition software?

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:35:38 PM

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why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose.

Touché!!! And Ron SCORES again!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:35:49 PM

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why dont you just show us your two inch dick? same reason I suppose. We go to war with Iraw because of WMD, that we cant find, how the fuck you gonna find a birth certificate in the united states then, most people cant find their own ass with two hands and a flashlight, for fucks sake!

Ron

Ron, wtf, you just send away to the city or town hall clerk's office where you were born! It takes a week!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:37:51 PM

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Eat this.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/8/2010 2:42:41 PM

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P.S. I don't know if anyone told you yet but President Obama is "white" too.

Try telling the Aryan nation or the Klan that. You'd better keep your gun to hand when you do that, is all I'm saying...

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