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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 8:52:29 AM   
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The 9/11 nutcases still want to insist that fire can't melt steel


How do they figure steel is made or shaped, then?







Damn good question, Muse.  Maybe one of them will show up on the thread, and we can ask.  Or not.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:06:27 AM   
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Ron, wtf, you just send away to the city or town hall clerk's office where you were born! It takes a week!


Don't you think that he had to show this information to all the proper authorities in the first place? I mean seriously, you can't even travel anywhere without having to show 50 million different people your credentials. I find it rather difficult to believe that they just let some guy into the Oval Office without checkin all his credentials.


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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:23:25 AM   
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It doesn't matter if Obama WAS born in Kenya. His mother was a US citizen, ergo Obama was a citizen at his birth  ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:31:24 AM   
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The 9/11 nutcases still want to insist that fire can't melt steel


How do they figure steel is made or shaped, then?






They think Iron Man does it with those magnetic beams of his. They know iron Man is real because they've seen pictures of Robert Downey jr.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 10:56:14 AM   
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Robert Downey did that all without help, he is seriously freakin awesome



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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 10:57:07 AM   
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Sr did his bit, somewhere along the line.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 10:58:10 AM   
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just a liddle spurt

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 2:32:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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The 9/11 nutcases still want to insist that fire can't melt steel


How do they figure steel is made or shaped, then?





Damn good question, Muse.  Maybe one of them will show up on the thread, and we can ask.  Or not.


yer kiddin right?

aint that the opening line for troll bait?  I mean as sophisticated as playing blocks in kindergarten?

Trolls love to state 1/2 truths ya know... 

Here I will kindly correct it for ya all....

A naturally aspirated hydrocarbon fire cannot melt steel.

as far as nutcases go, only the nutcases think that a couple small fires would cause global failure....  LOL



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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 2:38:33 PM   
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All you had to do is weaken it, not melt it.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 2:47:35 PM   
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Doesn't aviation spirit burn a hell of a lot hotter than normal petrol?

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 5:13:22 PM   
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I just find it odd that a white guy might have been born in Kenya.


Yet more nonsense from you. At best, ignorance, at worst, racist.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:28:26 PM   
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Robert Downey did that all without help, he is seriously freakin awesome


And he is fucking HOT! He is certainly hot enough to melt steel in my book!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:31:02 PM   
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I mean as sophisticated as playing blocks in kindergarten?


I liked playing with blocks in kindergarten and I'm pretty sure I would like playing with them now. What are you trying to say here? You got a problem with blocks? I think you should probably rethink your position on that one. I've got millions of kindergartners backing me up on this one!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:33:32 PM   
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Doesn't aviation spirit burn a hell of a lot hotter than normal petrol?

Only differs by about 30 C.

There's a good explanation of the type of fire (fuel-rich, diffuse flame), residual load factors of the building, and the failure mode here:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/eagar-0112.html

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:46:20 PM   
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Is the Secret Service targeting Birthes?

They are, you know they are! It's a conspiracy, I tell you! Run for your very life!

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 9:57:53 PM   
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I think it would be horrible if a president was assassinated again, especially because he is black. Instead of improving race relations it would set things back at least 50 years...


Not to mention it would make Joe Biden the President! That might be the sign that triggers the Apocalypse.


and worse yet - wouldn't that make nancy pelosi vice prez? ewwww

might just as well keep what we got stuck with til 2012

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 10:30:29 PM   
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For those that dont know the concept of 'Birthers' (that would be most non-Americans).

The 'movement' began shortly after Mr. Obama announced his run for the office. At the time, he was a relative 'no-body' (kinda of like Sarah Palin). When he won the Democratic Nomination, this loose group of Americans (who held conservative thoughts), started to demand evidence and proof that Mr. Obama was indeed a US citizen. They argued that when Mr. Obama was born, the isles known simply as 'Hawaii', was not a state. This failed, when reporters looked in to the issue, cracked open a history book, and found, that Mr. Obama was born two years AFTER Hawaii was entered in to the USA. So, birthers, by and large, fail at US History.

Before the election, there are a list of checks that have to be run through to make sure one is qualified (read: basic level of requirements) to be a US President. The first, was if he was over the age of 45. The second, if he was a US Citizen. If someone is born in the USA, who's parents are not US Citizens, the child is considered a US Citizen. If a US Citizen gives birth (this would be a lady), to a child, ANYWHERE (including Planet Mars!), the child is a US Citizen. First the state to which the canidate was born, is checked and verified. Then, there is a Presidental Election committee that establishs if or not, a canidate, has successfully pass the requirements. This happens before the November 4th, 2008 election.

Mr. Obama was shown to be born in Hawaii, just two years after Hawaii became an offical state of the United States of America. His mother, was a US Citizen. The state of Hawaii, verified that Mr. Obama was indeed born in that state. The Presidental Election committee verified everything was in order, checked, and verififed that Mr. Obama was eliable for the office, assuming he was elected, according to the Electoral College. Don't make me explain the US Electoral College. (safeword)

So, what does the Birthers have for a stance on this? Absolutely nothing. They took it to court. FAIL. They appealed to an appellete court. FAIL. Then, took it to the US Supreme Court. This court is at the federal level. Basically, they are the final authority on planet Earth for all rulings regarding the USA. Oh...it FAIL TOO!

The Birther 'movement' does not have a leg to stand on. Nor a valid arguement to make on the issue. They are just one more, in an ever growing group of people in the Republican tent (aka the GOP, or Grand Old Party), that want to attack Mr. Obama for no other reason, then, he's president, and a Democrat. You'd have to live in America for a while, to understand it.

Now, in regards to the US Secret Service. The Secret Service has two roles: Protect the US President, Vice President, and important persons (usually visiting diplomats and their families), and, thos who Conterfet US currency. As one poster already noted, the Secret Service takes their job very seriously. The day Mr. Reagan was shot, the global stock markets went in to sell mode. So, it goes without saying, the health of a US president has an economic impact.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 11:31:51 PM   
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It's 35, not 45, to be eligible to serve, but otherwise...

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/9/2010 11:58:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EyemKnotHear

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I think it would be horrible if a president was assassinated again, especially because he is black. Instead of improving race relations it would set things back at least 50 years...


Not to mention it would make Joe Biden the President! That might be the sign that triggers the Apocalypse.


and worse yet - wouldn't that make nancy pelosi vice prez? ewwww

might just as well keep what we got stuck with til 2012


No, Biden would pick his own VP, subject to approval by Congress.

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RE: Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers? - 1/10/2010 4:34:21 AM   
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Doesn't aviation spirit burn a hell of a lot hotter than normal petrol?

Only differs by about 30 C.

There's a good explanation of the type of fire (fuel-rich, diffuse flame), residual load factors of the building, and the failure mode here:
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/eagar-0112.html


Thank you. I thought there was more of a difference.

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