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what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 12:32:39 PM   
osf


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Status: offline 		i'm curious as to what the submissives think it is

if you want mine i'll have to mail it to you because of cross posting

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:24:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Structure in a relationship is... a relationship that has structure as opposed to non-structured.

Did you intend to ask what sort of structure we prefer/thrive in?

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:27:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Structure in a relationship is... a relationship that has structure as opposed to non-structured.

Did you intend to ask what sort of structure we prefer/thrive in?


what works for you and what you have

you answer it as it applies to you

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:28:57 PM   
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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:32:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, your first question, "what is your idea of structure in a relationship" is just: It's any relationship with structure. This is not limited to BDSM relationships/power dynamics as vanilla relationships are quite capable of having clear structure.

The more specific question, "how it applies to me", is: Valyraen and I have a loosely structured relationship because neither of us care much protocals, formalities and a great deal of rules. He is in charge, I obey, I try to make his life easier and I am to take care of what is his - including myself. There are some other details of course but I'm not going to write a thesis on my relationship.

However, and this is meant as nicely as possible, you really do need to work on your communication skills on the net. It's very hard to understand you and it's quite annoying to have to always be asking you to clarify yourself.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:34:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

i wasn't allowed to post my answer because posted it somewhere else


I didn't ask you to answer it.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:43:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Well, your first question, "what is your idea of structure in a relationship" is just: It's any relationship with structure. This is not limited to BDSM relationships/power dynamics as vanilla relationships are quite capable of having clear structure.

The more specific question, "how it applies to me", is: Valyraen and I have a loosely structured relationship because neither of us care much protocals, formalities and a great deal of rules. He is in charge, I obey, I try to make his life easier and I am to take care of what is his - including myself. There are some other details of course but I'm not going to write a thesis on my relationship.

However, and this is meant as nicely as possible, you really do need to work on your communication skills on the net. It's very hard to understand you and it's quite annoying to have to always be asking you to clarify yourself.



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Did you intend to ask what sort of structure we prefer/thrive in?




for cripes sake it was asked on a bdsm site, now if i asked it on the baptist site i could see the confusion, i cant believe your being anything but a snarky

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:45:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf

for cripes sake it was asked on a bdsm site, now if i asked it on the baptist site i could see the confusion, i cant believe your being anything but a snarky


What's that old saying about assumptions?

Plenty of things that aren't exclusive to BDSM get brought up here.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:53:34 PM   
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I just received these cmails


her: Thank you for asking for input...I refuse to post any more to the forums; the plethora of agressive subs/slaves and of course all the femdoms seem to jump on just about anyone's opinion, or question by berating the author.

Sorry to have bothered you.

Respectfully,

osf: may i post that without attribution? no bother


her: Post what? My comment about agressive sub/slaves and all the damned femdoms? As you can tell, I'm not a fan of feminine dominance; it's unnatural to me. Yes, if you don't give my name I don't mind at all if you post it...I stand by what I said, but I'm not ready to fight the hoard of nasty, falming emails I would receive if they knew who said it.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:56:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok... awesome. Great that you are talking to someone who shares your viewpoints.

FYI: It's actually against TOS to post PMs. I'm not sure if that changes with the other person's permission though. Not saying that to mean or attempt to discredit or anything of that nature, just a warning that the mod might yank them.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:57:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		i get that all the time lololol

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 1:58:43 PM   
AquaticSub


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You are being unclear again.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:12:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

i'm curious as to what the submissives think it is

if you want mine i'll have to mail it to you because of cross posting



Interesting.... I see you removed your description of what you thought established structure within a relationship. Now why would you do that.. .didn't you have confidence in your own ideals to allow them to stand.....



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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:12:38 PM   
osf


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Status: offline 		and your being snarky

but like the scorpion and the frog you cant help it

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:14:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not being snarky. I'm being clear with you that you are ineffective in your online communication and I refuse to play guessing games as to what you mean. If you take that as an insult, improve your communication.

Your insults are ineffective.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:16:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

i'm curious as to what the submissives think it is

if you want mine i'll have to mail it to you because of cross posting



Interesting.... I see you removed your description of what you thought established structure within a relationship. Now why would you do that.. .didn't you have confidence in your own ideals to allow them to stand.....




There never was one. I'm not sure what he edited the post for but, to be fair, his thoughts were never included in the OP.

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It was ok for him to beat me but then he tried to cuddle me! - Me

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:17:53 PM   
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quote:

Interesting.... I see you removed your description of what you thought established structure within a relationship. Now why would you do that.. .didn't you have confidence in your own ideals to allow them to stand.....


i did but it was pulled for cross posting

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:18:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists


quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

i'm curious as to what the submissives think it is

if you want mine i'll have to mail it to you because of cross posting



Interesting.... I see you removed your description of what you thought established structure within a relationship. Now why would you do that.. .didn't you have confidence in your own ideals to allow them to stand.....




There never was one. I'm not sure what he edited the post for but, to be fair, his thoughts were never included in the OP.


They were.  He posted the same thing he has HERE .

*edited to add.....Whenoriginally posted, it seemed like just another attempt to put out what you wanted.  I'm glad it was removed and I hope this thread actually becomes a discussion. 


< Message edited by CarrieO -- 1/12/2010 2:20:29 PM >

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 2:19:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CarrieO
They were.  He posted the same thing he has HERE .


I stand corrected then. I was the first to post and I never saw them so I assumed they weren't ever there. My apologies.

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RE: what is your idea of structure in a relationship - 1/12/2010 4:21:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am glad you have a fan club through pm. You need to have a fan club and let everyone know. It is hard for some to stand on their own without calling in the troops for support. Nothing to be ashame about that.

P.S
I give you credit for coming up with good topics..but it gets so hard to weed through all this. I am grateful for those that can set someone like me, a newbie, in a brighter light. That is only reason i come to your threads to learn from those who can teach. And i cant find a way to say this without being rude, i am glad many don't teach the way you do. i would have ran from this if i met you 2 and half years ago. Your remarks would have shut the door to bdsm for me..so i am glad i know better...though sadly still thirsty to learn.

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