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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 1:20:59 PM   
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I doubt very much that Cuba even has 1500 doctors. PR stunt maybe, ??



Of course it would never occure to you to do a little google search...oh no that would prevent those with an agenda from pleading plausable deniability.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 1:21:16 PM   
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Mia, yeah, it must have caused $50 or $60 worth of damage there.
Not to worry, their voo doo gods will sort things out.

Countering dubious correlations between atmospheric changes and geological changes with fatuous idiocy is an interesting technique...



Oh sorry, $80 to $100 in damages.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 1:25:59 PM   
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Its already been included in the links, that drugs and unliscened medical providers were turned down, because of liability issues. No conspiricy, no plot. Just the medical tort rules that Democrats refuse to even consider reforming.

Do you just open your mouth to change feet?
If you actually read you find that your position was the "company line" but the facts were somewhat different.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 3:52:28 PM   
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I doubt very much that Cuba even has 1500 doctors. PR stunt maybe, ??


"According to the World Health Organization, Cuba provides a doctor for every 170 residents,[54] and has the second highest doctor to patient ratio in the world after Italy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 6:24:26 PM   
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MzMia:

With the greatest of love and respect.  One of the reasons these disasters seem so bad and so frequent is the simple fact that we have instantaneous communication which we didn't have a scant 60 years ago.  Just 30 years ago, we wouldn't be on a message board discussing it.  We hear and see these disasters as they happen because people have video on their cell phones, because we have cable and satellites and even better, competing news agencies just waiting for the next thing to instil fear (and thereby increase ratings) in every citizen.

It's really only been a couple hundred years since there's been anyone keeping track of weather, maybe less.  We don't have enough accurate historical data to really say this period of activity is more active or less than it was say 500 years ago.  We know things are happening now because of the world wide communications we currently have. 

We really don't have much historical perspective to put on natural disasters.  Some kind of major flood was recorded in ancient texts but since most of those texts are "religous" they are not believed and since no universal calendar was in place, we have little data to suggest exactly when "The Flood" happened or even how widespread that flooding may have been, if it happened.


Thank you so much for this post, eyesopened.
I have to agree with you, tazzy, Rich, and the other posters, about how media 
coverage the past 20 years or so is intense, overwhelming and in your face.
They could not provide the coverage, the exact numbers, and all these statistics
50, 100 and especially 200 years ago.
We have always had disasters and we always will.

I agree to a point, BUT some of the weather {especially the extreme weather
conditions} still cause my eyebrows to go up.
Thanks again, for being diplomatic and not calling me a "paranoid poster"!
   

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 6:31:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone out there really believe that Cuba would allow 100 doctors to get on a ship headed for Florida, let alone 1500 ? They kill or imprison people trying to flee that island.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 7:01:25 PM   
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Thanks, but no thanks
In separate Washington press briefings, both the White House and State Department spokesmen this week downplayed the Cuban government’s offer to send some 1,600 medics, field hospitals and 83 tons of medical supplies to ease the humanitarian disaster.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9311876/ ...read for yourself.

< Message edited by Louve00 -- 1/14/2010 7:02:12 PM >

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 7:03:38 PM   
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pssst servant....

Thanks, but no thanks
In separate Washington press briefings, both the White House and State Department spokesmen this week downplayed the Cuban government’s offer to send some 1,600 medics, field hospitals and 83 tons of medical supplies to ease the humanitarian disaster.
 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9311876/ ...read for yourself.


Thanks for bringing this back up.
I hope I NEVER forget the aid that was offered and refused.
I remember the whole situation, very well.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 10:55:57 PM   
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Difine doctor.

And tell me... if you had to choose blindly... would you pick a random Cuban Doctor or an American one?



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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I doubt very much that Cuba even has 1500 doctors. PR stunt maybe, ??


"According to the World Health Organization, Cuba provides a doctor for every 170 residents,[54] and has the second highest doctor to patient ratio in the world after Italy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba


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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/14/2010 11:43:59 PM   
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Hmmmm...

Difine doctor.

And tell me... if you had to choose blindly... would you pick a random Cuban Doctor or an American one?






....define teacher.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/15/2010 3:00:45 AM   
vincentML


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Status: offline 		Speaking of doctors, two organizations already on the ground in Haiti and administering to the sick and wounded are

Doctors Without Borders

and

Partners in Health


I will donate to each directly.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/15/2010 3:56:11 AM   
Louve00


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Hmmmm...

Difine doctor.

And tell me... if you had to choose blindly... would you pick a random Cuban Doctor or an American one?



Hmmm.  I think you lost your dictionary.  You can look that definition up here.... http://www.merriam-webster.com/

I think your point was really more close to...do you trust a Cuban dr. over an American one.  And in a time like Katrina...or this earthquake in Haiti, I doubt any of those victims are thinking of credentials.  They just need medical help.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 5:14:11 AM   
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I guess it will take something like half the world being destroyed for many
people to believe it.


It doesn't matter what you 'believe,' climate does not cause earth quakes. Never has, never will.

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This was the biggest earthquake in 200 years, what's next?


And here's where your credibility goes bye-bye. Biggest in 200 years? A 7.0? Are you serious? If you're talking about Haiti specific earthquakes, maybe. If you're talking about in general, a 7.0 doesn't even rank in the Top 10.


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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 5:18:28 AM   
MzMia


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ORIGINAL: MzMia
I guess it will take something like half the world being destroyed for many
people to believe it.


It doesn't matter what you 'believe,' climate does not cause earth quakes. Never has, never will.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia
This was the biggest earthquake in 200 years, what's next?


And here's where your credibility goes bye-bye. Biggest in 200 years? A 7.0? Are you serious? If you're talking about Haiti specific earthquakes, maybe. If you're talking about in general, a 7.0 doesn't even rank in the Top 10.



Here is where your credibility goes bye bye.
I stated at least 3 times in this thread, this is Haiti's biggest earthquake in 200 years.
My thread is about HAITI and earthquakes, not every earthquake in the word.

Also for you and those that normally come to point fingers, criticize what people THINK and want to WRITE, and stir up shit, I am not an expert at anything, except myself.
I stated many times, I am not a scientist, or expert on the weather..."This is my opinion".
I never claim to be an expert at anything, this is a message board, and people here post their opinions, thoughts and points of view.
 
There are very few people in the world that are experts at anything, if you are looking for expert opinions do an internet search.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 5:29:46 AM   
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Here is where your credibility goes bye bye.
I stated at least 3 times in this thread, this is Haiti's biggest earthquake in 200 years.
My thread is about HAITI and earthquakes, not every earthquake in the word.


Well, when a thread is so obviously paranoid and conspiracy-laden as this one, I don't read every page -- it's just not worth it.

And it doesn't matter how many times you said Haiti, you didn't in the post I quoted.

Furthermore, it appears the thread is about more than Haiti and earthquakes as you somehow insinuate that the earthquake there is a result of.....the weather. Pardon me while I lump you into the same category as pahunkboy -- good for a sad laugh, but not to be taken seriously.




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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 5:37:08 AM   
MzMia


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Status: offline 		lol, I am crying.
Do me a favor, and don't bother to post on the threads I start.
Please, I beg of you, put me on ignore, the hide button is in the left hand corner.

You are obviously a shit stirrer, and it will be no loss.
Now run along, and go seek the experts.
 
If you think I care about your opinions of my opinions, you need to run to a psychiatric facility.
I must go, but please have a nice day.
 
Don't forget to use the hide/ignore button!

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 5:44:29 AM   
Loki45


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lol, I am crying.
Do me a favor, and don't bother to post on the threads I start.
Please, I beg of you, put me on ignore, the hide button is in the left hand corner.

You are obviously a shit stirrer, and it will be no loss.
Now run along, and go seek the experts.
 
If you think I care about your opinions of my opinions, you need to run to a psychiatric facility.
I must go, but please have a nice day.
 
Don't forget to use the hide/ignore button!


You obviously care enough to keep replying to me.   Nice job proving your own post wrong. Saves me the trouble. No, I won't ignore you. But I will, from time to time, pop in to whichever thread suits me and give you the same response I reserve for pa:




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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 6:45:02 AM   
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lol, I am crying.
Do me a favor, and don't bother to post on the threads I start.
Please, I beg of you, put me on ignore, the hide button is in the left hand corner.

You are obviously a shit stirrer, and it will be no loss.
Now run along, and go seek the experts.
 
If you think I care about your opinions of my opinions, you need to run to a psychiatric facility.
I must go, but please have a nice day.
 
Don't forget to use the hide/ignore button!


You obviously care enough to keep replying to me.   Nice job proving your own post wrong. Saves me the trouble. No, I won't ignore you. But I will, from time to time, pop in to whichever thread suits me and give you the same response I reserve for pa:





What is my position on global warming?

Loki- do you know?

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 6:49:21 AM   
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Here is where your credibility goes bye bye.
I stated at least 3 times in this thread, this is Haiti's biggest earthquake in 200 years.
My thread is about HAITI and earthquakes, not every earthquake in the word.


Well, when a thread is so obviously paranoid and conspiracy-laden as this one, I don't read every page -- it's just not worth it.

And it doesn't matter how many times you said Haiti, you didn't in the post I quoted.

Furthermore, it appears the thread is about more than Haiti and earthquakes as you somehow insinuate that the earthquake there is a result of.....the weather. Pardon me while I lump you into the same category as pahunkboy -- good for a sad laugh, but not to be taken seriously.





And another thing my dear lady.

From now on you will address me as "Sir".

I am making a note on this, and placing it in your permanent file.

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RE: Now Haiti!! The Big One/ Still don't believe the we... - 1/16/2010 7:01:53 AM   
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Like many people around the world I am watching coverage of the devasation that
just occurred in Haiti.

Haiti, the poorest country in the world, and now it has the dubious distinction
of being home of the "big one".
 
With all of the extreme weather we have witnessed for at least the past 8 years,
I wonder if there are STILL people that don't believe that the weather/climate is
changing drastically in a big way?

Haiti Earthquake Was the 'Big One' Says Top Seismologist - TIME



I am going to completely ignore all of the stupid melodrama and political bullshit on this thread and simple reply to the OP. Based upon what I do know about earth quakes and weather patterns over the centuries I can say this. I do not understand how anyone can bring up the earth quake in Haiti and say "see the weather/climate really is changing!!!!!

As most reasonably intelligent people know, earth quakes are simply caused by the shifts of the earth plates. They is nothing in our climate that affects plate shift.

The only real connection you can place between tectonic plates and climate is the effects a massive volcanic erruption can, and has in earth's history, have on the climate.

The weather/climate is a constantly evolving thing, just as the earth's surface is also constantly evolving. We cannot press some magic button or stop using gas and stop the shifting of tectonic plates on the earth's surface. So, while what happened in Haiti is tragic indeed, the earth quake itself was not avoidable.

It is even questionable what affects we can have on climate change.

I am sure most of this has been brought up somewhere in the freak show I started to read, in posts prior to mine, then saw the usual political culprits and declined.

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