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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:07:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Fucker was also in Beloved, which I did not care for at all, that movie was just nasty.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:17:26 PM   
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Living color..."Cult of personality"...Big hit and quite the toe tapper if I may say so.



That whole "album" was great.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:17:49 PM   
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guess I am as bad as limbaugh if having a reaction to the fact that it is always the poorest people that are hardest hit and lack the infrastructure necessary to deliver aid... those are political facts, they are pertinent to what is going on here, and I do not believe it is disrespectful to mention these facts when the most people will be listening to them, which is in the immediate aftermath of a disaster like this


The poor have always been the hardest hit. Always have been and, despite our best efforts, probably always will be. Saying so now or a week from now will make no difference to that. To me it is a simple matter of decorum. Left, right, I don't care - decency is not a partisian issue (or at least it shouldn't be). A lawyer shouldn't run up to a traffic accident vitim and start blathering about sueing people while they're still being strapped to the stretcher - and people with agendas (no matter how noble they consider their agenda to be) shouldn't try to score political points off a natural disaster when people are still dying.

I make no claim to moral perfection in this myself but that is how I see it. I know that on matters of import this isn't high on the list but it irks me none-the-less.



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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:18:46 PM   
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ft, right, I don't care - decency is not a partisian issue (or at least it shouldn't be). A lawyer shouldn't run up to a traffic accident vitim and start blathering about sueing people while they're still being strapped to the stretcher - and people with agendas (no matter how noble they consider their agenda to be) shouldn't try to score political points off a natural disaster when people are still dying.


Can you tell me how his comments were partisan?

Edited to add... my points are not partisan, they are humanitarian... and if that intersects with other people's partisan view it is not any indecency on my part...

Or we just have different views of what decency is and I am ok with that


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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:25:23 PM   
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Fucker was also in Beloved, which I did not care for at all, that movie was just nasty.

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I thought he was awfully good in "Lonesome Dove," though. And i liked him in "Grand Canyon." He seems to be a pretty mellow, likable guy, who does best in a role that allows that to come through.

I never realized Corey Glover was his son, though. What ever happened to Living Colour? Didn't they get back together for a tour a few years ago? It'd be nice to see them again.


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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:29:32 PM   
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Can you tell me how his comments were partisan?

Edited to add... my points are not partisan, they are humanitarian... and if that intersects with other people's partisan view it is not any indecency on my part...

Or we just have different views of what decency is and I am ok with that


I wasn't specifically regarding his views (or your for that matter) as partisan but he did (as best as I can make out) tie the earthquake to the summit on Copenhagen - that at least makes it political.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 1:54:16 PM   
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Can you tell me how his comments were partisan?

Edited to add... my points are not partisan, they are humanitarian... and if that intersects with other people's partisan view it is not any indecency on my part...

Or we just have different views of what decency is and I am ok with that


I wasn't specifically regarding his views (or your for that matter) as partisan but he did (as best as I can make out) tie the earthquake to the summit on Copenhagen - that at least makes it political.


I attend and present at conferences... so if I bring up Haiti in relation to their history of HIV infection as a medical anthropologist and then tie that to the crisis they face now, this is "political"?

In this country global warming is considered a partisan issue. At a conference like the one in Copenhagen, it is considered a reality that must be dealt with, and part of that reality is storms that will cause untold damage in places like Haiti (if not Haiti itself). I hardly think this is disgraceful to connect the two issues... even if he conflated them incorrectly


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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:06:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Fucker was also in Beloved, which I did not care for at all, that movie was just nasty.

Ron



Yeah, no, didnt love that movie but the book and all of Toni Morrison's books are great the way she incorporates other dimensions of reality into her work.

I always thought of D Glover as a big star, what do I know though. I think he is good. He is no Philip Seymour Hoffman but he is good.

I like the band Living Color too. I would love to hear some right now.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:19:48 PM   
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I like the band Living Color too. I would love to hear some right now.


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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:20:02 PM   
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Isn't it fascinating how quick people can be to assign blame for large scale natural disaters on some sort of supernatural being as punishment for some wrongdoing on our part? As if something so large has to have a "rational" explanation (God is mad) rather than a natural (and the actual rational) one (like tectonic plates shifting).


"God is mad?"

God is angry?

God is nuts?

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:22:29 PM   
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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:26:48 PM   
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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:31:42 PM   
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Yes, that's true. He seems to have one hell of a lot of them, in fact.


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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:39:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Panda for the link. I didnt know this song, are they bi? Didnt know that either.

I like this song and the video is pretty cute and good. Like domi said, big toe-tapping hit.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:40:18 PM   
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That audio wasn't the best so I am not one hundred percent sure what Glover was saying. At the very least he is using the tragedy to make a political statement - that puts him in the same category as Rush Limbaugh: people too damned insesative to wait a respecteful period of time before turning it into political hay.


I guess I am as bad as limbaugh if having a reaction to the fact that it is always the poorest people that are hardest hit and lack the infrastructure necessary to deliver aid... those are political facts, they are pertinent to what is going on here, and I do not believe it is disrespectful to mention these facts when the most people will be listening to them, which is in the immediate aftermath of a disaster like this



It is absolutely imperative to mention these facts at the time of the disaster when everyone is paying attention. Unfortunately, memories are short. In a month or a year, sadly, no one will give a tinker's damn about Haiti. They will have moved on to the next disaster or celebrity whose bra fell off in public view. But this is also true of disasters in more affluent areas I think. The dogs bark but the caravan moves on. The only cogent thought people have is "Well, I'm glad it wasn't me there when that hurricane, volcano, tsunami, tornado, blizzard struck. Back to my dunkin donuts and lessee what the ball scores are." Unfortunately, a contributing factor to the malaise is that "the poor are too much with us." There seem to be no real solutions.

The champions of rugged Capitalism forget it is but a slight slip sometimes from affluence to poverty. Have a look around and see what is happening to our own infra-structure. Starting to become a bit frayed I think.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 2:43:14 PM   
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Sorry, heartcream, but I don't get it *blonde brain*.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 3:17:51 PM   
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Sorry, heartcream, but I don't get it *blonde brain*.


In my understanding not only is God alive and doing as well as can be expected in these far gone times, but He also has sex, hence cojones, hence nuts.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/15/2010 3:19:06 PM   
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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/16/2010 12:10:23 AM   
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This is too off the wall for even me, thus the jumpthrough. Nothing in this atmosphere can affect seismic activity to any great degree. Yes climactic conditons can have an effect on seimic activity, but it is not a great magnitude.

These are educated people who spew this garbage ? We are in bad shape.

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RE: Idiot of the Day: Danny Glover (Copenhagen failure... - 1/16/2010 12:14:22 AM   
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In making his push for "internationalism," activist/actor/producer Danny Glover seemingly blames the earthquake in Haiti on the failure of world leaders to act on climate change and global warming at the recent Copenhagen summit:   "When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I’m sayin'?"

http://bitterqueen.typepad.com/friends_of_ours/2010/01/idiot-of-the-day-danny-glover.html


It sounds like Danny boy is a few french fries short of a happy meal.


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