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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 9:21:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yepmore bullshit from people who have no clue what a socialist is in the real world.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 9:56:58 AM   
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Yepmore bullshit from people who have no clue what a socialist is in the real world.


This level of ignorance shows that we need to invest time and money in educating people more equitably in this country because it is fairly obvious there is a huge education gap in schools in the USA. We should educate people as well as they do in socialist countries.


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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:02:28 AM   
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I am really bad in politics and I never been to the US, so I don't know much about what and how is going on there and how does that feel to the people living there.

What I feel though is that most of you never lived in socialism, nor in communism. I did. And I do live in an ex-socialist Country, I am the citizen of an ex-socialist Country.

cuckoldmepls! The theory of taking from the rich to give it to the poor has nothing to do with socialism, nor communism. That is the story of Robin Hood!
In real socialism one basic rule was: who is not working, shouldn't eat either!
Stella41b was the closest to reality!

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:10:58 AM   
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Ayn Rand was a bitter cunt with a very narrow world view.



Hey Ayn Rand did good work. Bioshock was awesome. :P

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:16:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		To the op:  I thought the point of the thread was to show the world that you are a douche.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:17:01 AM   
Lucylastic


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Status: offline 		I think its a left over conservation of the McCarthy  ramblings, plus the cold war.Education can solve a lot of problems but when its ingrained in parents grandparents family etc and seen as scary, it s  hard to get rid of.
Ignorance is no excuse, but it suits the conservative, libertarians and repubs to keep the scare tactics going. Such as denying  any republican health care, deathpanels and pulling the plug on granny etc ad nauseum
They cant handle the truth:)



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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:20:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great first post LP! Sorry to say though that you, and the rest of us, are wasting time and energy with this guy.

He is absolutely, irreconcilably, irrevocably, even psychotically - obsessed with two related ideas; the first that Obama is a socialist and the second that socialism is the greatest evil that could ever be visited on a people. And this with quite obviously not a wit of a clue as to what socialism is, what it does and what a socialist looks like.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:25:01 AM   
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Anyone who says his ideology isnt socialist at its core just doesnt want to live with that label.



....there is another explanation. That we actually know what the label 'socialism' means and we aren't going to be swayed by the ignorant or the rabidly partisan into changing our minds.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:27:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		A bigger question. 

I believe that some might say I have been known to hang to the left.

Why is it that the majority of the time that I see complete bullshit, baldfaced lies posted or sent via email that the majority of this shit tends to come form "conservatives?"

Why is it that far too often that this group of people will accept anything they read if it supports some form of a right position?  What is even worse is that they seem to have no problem attaching their names to it and forwarding it on to others.  The truth be damned.

Whether it be about global warming, the evil of the Prius, Obama's birth certificate, how Cindy Sheehan never raised her son and on and on and fucking on and on and on.

To quote Joseph Welch, "have you left no sense of decency?" 

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:52:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Lady Ellen! 

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 10:57:00 AM   
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Anyone who says his ideology isnt socialist at its core just doesnt want to live with that label.



....there is another explanation. That we actually know what the label 'socialism' means and we aren't going to be swayed by the ignorant or the rabidly partisan into changing our minds.



Since no one has been able to refute what I cited as his socialist philosphies and actions to date I will take your post as another concession that you cant either.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 11:04:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		you will have to repeat the socialist philosophies you cited W, having been brought up in a semi-socialist state education system I cant see what youve said on the subject

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 11:14:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		More socialist policies from Obama! Its just been reported on UK Channel4 news that he's taking action against the US banks to stop them repeating their mistakes of late - no more business as usual, apparently, with banks broken up and their powers limited such that the taxpayer should not have to be called on again to prop them up.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 11:40:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Anyone who says his ideology isnt socialist at its core just doesnt want to live with that label.



....there is another explanation. That we actually know what the label 'socialism' means and we aren't going to be swayed by the ignorant or the rabidly partisan into changing our minds.



Since no one has been able to refute what I cited as his socialist philosphies and actions to date I will take your post as another concession that you cant either.


..and since you have not been assed to actually explain, in the context of a proper definition of Socialism, why Obama is socialist.......then perhaps i ought to consider you a partisan twit who'll say anything, anything at all, no lie too big or too small, that may cast the President you didn't vote for in an unfavourable light.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 11:46:59 AM   
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Since no one has been able to refute what I cited as his socialist philosphies and actions to date I will take your post as another concession that you cant either.

Nobody apart from everybody else whose posted in the thread, you mean?

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 11:51:20 AM   
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Since no one has been able to refute what I cited as his socialist philosphies and actions to date I will take your post as another concession that you cant either
Go ahead and believe whatever you want willbuer....you clearly enjoy deluding yourself

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 2:02:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The answer would be emotional egotism; truth for right wing idealogues is neither factual or empirical -- rather it is propaganda that serves the cause they believe in. How they feel about information governs their critical eye of it.

Also, larger truths must be shielded from impeaching facts. Impeaching facts undermine the larger cause of the just, free market world of competitive meritocracy while paving the way to unwanted higher taxes.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 2:20:32 PM   
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Socialism:  a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

By this definition, Obama is hardly a socialist. 


Tell that to the banks, GM, and insurance companies that Obama owns, and the oil and energy companies that he wants to own. "socialized" medicine is called that for a reason. Massive income redistribution is socialism.

Anyone who says his ideology isnt socialist at its core just doesnt want to live with that label.


Well, let's take a look back into a time long ago when the Dubya ruled the world.

The Dubya created the bank bailout, the AIG bailout, and the GM bailout.

But damn that socialist Obama.

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 2:52:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		If massive income redistribution is socialism, doesn't that mean that you have socialised medicine in the 'States already? THose bills you guys are paying the insurers are redistributing a hell of a lot of your wealth over a lifetime...

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RE: Socialism Exposed - 1/21/2010 9:26:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		  Vow sheeple I think you deserve to be" slaughtered",I lived for 27 years the REAL profesor story,(I dont really care whether it happen or not,snoople is another bulshit) in real work place, with real people,real boss,real apparatchics,communist,STB(secret service) just a joke about them can land you in jail,but that is a another story,this just remain me . WHY not sheeple practice  socialism on your children and see what happen?????

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