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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 1:59:49 PM

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Personally I would need my slave to hold down a job. Even if it's a silly little part-time job at the local movie theatre or whatever. If my slave wanted to give me her income thats different, but even then I would be hard pressed to accept it. How will my slave surprise me with sexy outfits if she doesn't have her own money? If she asked me for money, then went and bought me something with it, it would irritate me. If I wanted to spend my money on that, I would have bought it myself.

Additionally I think its important for a slave to have her own source of income incase things go wrong. If the relationship falls apart and a person relies entirely on another for money, they may feel trapped. I want my slave to submit to me because she chooses to, not because she has no other options in her life.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 2:02:04 PM

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Wow you sound really cheap

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 2:05:17 PM

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Alright, I know this will be a slippery slope ...

No kidding. A huge pile of money is very slippery if it isn't banded. If you step on it wrong you can fall and break your ass.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 2:20:46 PM

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I wouldn't worry about slipping... too many would be kneeling in worship to actually stand, move and slip.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 2:28:44 PM

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Wow you sound really cheap

This made me giggle.

Also if my sole income was working part time at a movie theatre I doubt I'd have money for big cotton panties much less sexy outfits.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 2:31:46 PM

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hehe :)
Oh and also if you were working p/t besides buying stuff for yourself you would have money in your budget to buy him a gift..

this dude is a cheapo lol

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 3:17:33 PM

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brilliant Kevin - thats exactly the sort of thing you need to be doing. What subject you studying? Qualification at the end?

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 3:24:31 PM

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I dont care if there is a million dollars in my bank account...whenever I see a profile or ad or on a date with some woman that says she wants someone financially secure... *click*

That sends up a huge red flag in my mind. Money isnt everything. And those who mix it with love usually end up bankrupt in both departments.

That being said. I dont mind paying for dinner or anything like that. But I can't stand the women that are out there that want hundreds of dollars in gifts for no other reason than having a pussy, being hot, and "spending valuable time" with me. I mean if that's what I have to spend I might as well just get a prostitute...at least then I know I'll get some extra benefits at the end of the night.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 4:49:01 PM

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I dont care if there is a million dollars in my bank account...whenever I see a profile or ad or on a date with some woman that says she wants someone financially secure... *click*

That sends up a huge red flag in my mind. Money isnt everything. And those who mix it with love usually end up bankrupt in both departments.

That being said. I dont mind paying for dinner or anything like that. But I can't stand the women that are out there that want hundreds of dollars in gifts for no other reason than having a pussy, being hot, and "spending valuable time" with me. I mean if that's what I have to spend I might as well just get a prostitute...at least then I know I'll get some extra benefits at the end of the night.

But of course its perfectly acceptable that she get paid 30 cents less an hour for doing the same work. And of course she should give up her career to raise children. And she should work full time and cook and clean while you sit on your ass after a hard days work.

Pussy has never had the same entitlement than cock. You sound liike a cheap young putz whos not financially secure. Its o.k. that you go click. We dont want ya anyway.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:22:43 PM

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:23:51 PM

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I never said women should get paid less or give up their careers. You are talking to the wrong person about that. That is society that doing that stuff. Does that mean I need to provide for a woman when she is perfectly able to work herself? You wanted feminism and equality...you are getting it. Which means you need to be contributing just as much. You want to stand back and let the man pay for everything, then you are accepting a dependent position. You play right into the social stereotype.

And how the heck do you define financially secure anyway? Im telling you right now most men interpret that as meaning rich and wealthy. And with the economy the way it is right now, how do you know your financially secure boyfriend's company suddenly wont go bankrupt and he's sitting at home unemployed a few months from now? That's not uncommon these days, you know?

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:31:08 PM

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I never said women should get paid less or give up their careers. You are talking to the wrong person about that. That is society that doing that stuff. Does that mean I need to provide for a woman when she is perfectly able to work herself? You wanted feminism and equality...you are getting it. Which means you need to be contributing just as much. You want to stand back and let the man pay for everything, then you are accepting a dependent position. You play right into the social stereotype.

And how the heck do you define financially secure anyway? Im telling you right now most men interpret that as meaning rich and wealthy. And with the economy the way it is right now, how do you know your financially secure boyfriend's company suddenly wont go bankrupt and he's sitting at home unemployed a few months from now? That's not uncommon these days, you know?

Who ever said we have feminism and equality? We dont have equality? We dont have an expectation of it either.

Your interpretation is born from your feelings of inadequacy. Its your interpretation, not others.

MAny of us here have stood by our men when they go through bad times.

But ya know what? Women have never held the financial pie. We have had children to take care of even if the deadbeat dad left us high and dry with no support. We have had to make due with much less. The poorest segment of the population are women and children under 16.

So dont talk about things you have no knowlege of.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:46:29 PM

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You are getting off onto a tangent and missing my point.

My point was simply that there is more to life and relationships than money. And it is just my view that people who put money at the center of their universe will never find happiness. I read a story a few years ago of a guy that won $100 million powerball. And since then he's had a divorce and his daughter is dying of cancer. Money didn't seem to bring his life any security. Money buys you things. And that is all it can do for you.

When I go on a serious date, I dont care if she lives in a mansion or a cardboard box. Im looking for a PERSON that is special. Money does not matter. If what she is most interested in is financial security, what's going to happen if one day I no longer am financially secure? Is she going to bail on me for the next wealthy guy that comes along? So that is why when I see "financially secure", its a big turn off to me.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:48:03 PM

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You are getting off onto a tangent and missing my point.

My point was simply that there is more to life and relationships than money. And it is just my view that people who put money at the center of their universe will never find happiness. I read a story a few years ago of a guy that won $100 million powerball. And since then he's had a divorce and his daughter is dying of cancer. Money didn't seem to bring his life any security. Money buys you things. And that is all it can do for you.

When I go on a serious date, I dont care if she lives in a mansion or a cardboard box. Im looking for a PERSON that is special. Money does not matter. If what she is most interested in is financial security, what's going to happen if one day I no longer am financially secure? Is she going to bail on me for the next wealthy guy that comes along? So that is why when I see "financially secure", its a big turn off to me.

Well if a man cant manage his own life, he cant manage mine. So thats what its about for many of us subs.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:54:43 PM

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If I had two million dollars tied up in todays stock market, I'm pretty certain I'd be feeling really insecure financially. Now if I were the CEO of a large bank, I'd be kicking back enjoying the security of my continued multi-million dollar bonus.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 5:56:14 PM

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So that is why when I see "financially secure", its a big turn off to me.

Would you respect the intelligence of someone who was actively looking for a partner who was financially insecure?

People write down what they think in their mind they are attracted to. I'm short for a white guy. I have never dated a woman who preferred short men to tall men. These women went out with me because they preferred me to the taller men who were courting them. Nobody can have everything, but why fault someone for trying for as much as possible?

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 6:14:34 PM

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Well if a man cant manage his own life, he cant manage mine. So thats what its about for many of us subs.

This.
JJ- No, money is not the most important thing in life. That said, a lack of it, esp if it is because one partner is irresponsible when it comes to handling the household finances, is often the death knell for a relationship. I don't understand why so many get their panties in a bunch over people stating that they are looking for a partner who handles his/her money well, esp when it is a submissive who may very well turn over all decisions, including financial, to hir Dominant at some point in the relationship.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 7:11:38 PM

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Well if a man cant manage his own life, he cant manage mine. So thats what its about for many of us subs.

This.
JJ- No, money is not the most important thing in life. That said, a lack of it, esp if it is because one partner is irresponsible when it comes to handling the household finances, is often the death knell for a relationship. I don't understand why so many get their panties in a bunch over people stating that they are looking for a partner who handles his/her money well, esp when it is a submissive who may very well turn over all decisions, including financial, to hir Dominant at some point in the relationship.

Not having money and being irresponsible with money are not always related. Sure there are people that get a credit card and max it out the next day on stupid stuff that isnt needed. Some people though have a credit card and max it out because of a medical problem. Both are in debt. Both are financially insecure and strapped. Are both irresponsible with money?

Average college grad is $40,000 in debt when they enter the workforce. Average law school grad is over $100,000 in debt. These people are dirt broke coming out of school. But they are on the right path...correct? Do they eventually pull themselves out of debt. Eventually yes. But sometimes they fail for a while and failure is pretty common right now considering the state of the economy. I know a guy with an engineering degree working as a bartender because he can't find an entry level job in his field. Are these people all irresponsible?

My point, like I said before, is people fall on tough times all the time. Even people who are responsible with money. And you can't judge a person's character, intelligence, and integrity based on their bank account balance.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 8:06:36 PM

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Not having money and being irresponsible with money are not always related. Sure there are people that get a credit card and max it out the next day on stupid stuff that isnt needed. Some people though have a credit card and max it out because of a medical problem. Both are in debt. Both are financially insecure and strapped. Are both irresponsible with money?

I never said they were related. Reread what I wrote, please.

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Average college grad is $40,000 in debt when they enter the workforce. Average law school grad is over $100,000 in debt. These people are dirt broke coming out of school. But they are on the right path...correct? Do they eventually pull themselves out of debt. Eventually yes. But sometimes they fail for a while and failure is pretty common right now considering the state of the economy. I know a guy with an engineering degree working as a bartender because he can't find an entry level job in his field. Are these people all irresponsible?

Boy, you latched right on to the word "irresponsible", didn't you? As for folk coming out of school, yes, they are often broke. It's also perfectly fine if someone doesn't want to get involved with a person who is $40,000 or whatever in debt, no matter the reason.

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My point, like I said before, is people fall on tough times all the time. Even people who are responsible with money. And you can't judge a person's character, intelligence, and integrity based on their bank account balance.

I never said anything about character, intelligence, integrity, or bank accounts. This thread is about a preference seen on some profiles here, and my post was merely an explanation of my point of view. I work full time, pay my bills, and (other than my car), I have no debts. My choosing to look for someone who likewise works, pays his bills, and has little debt is simply that, my choice. It says bugger all about anyone who isn't me.

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RE: "Financially Secure" - 1/20/2010 8:09:00 PM

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It seems to be far more prevalent with female dom/male submissive situations.

Oh it would appear that way because gold digging Dommes are assertive about their needs. I'm sure there are as many gold digging subs, they are just more subtle.

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You are right, they are out there and some are not so subtle either. The word generous and mature are usually a pretty big tip to their true desires.

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