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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 9:43:30 AM   
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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 11:37:38 AM   
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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 12:34:34 PM   
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Skip it then....

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:00:47 PM   
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When a white do it then it is called racist. When a male is doing it then it is called sexism. Well that someone can call a all white sportgame racist and on the other hand praise a black beauticontest i can only see the guy as the biggest racist of them all. Same as when the women screams sexisme and never mentions the all male draft legislation or the fact that males is totally discriminated in custody batles in the courts. Well they are not seeking equal right but just seeking the benefits for them self.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:28:12 PM   
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....or the fact that males is totally discriminated in custody batles in the courts.


This was the case years ago, but it is not anymore. The fact is that that more often than not, the male is not willing to do what is necessary to win the custody, which in effect shows them to be the less appropriate parent. Over a dozen years of working in Family Law, and I have seen it personally. I have also seen the men who are willing to do what it takes to get custody. Sorry, but those that are usually screaming they are discriminated against give up the fight and then say it was because the courts "discriminate" against fathers.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:32:34 PM   
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One point that I'm seeing brought up constantly is this idea that the "Miss Black America" pageant is the same thing as this whites only basketball league.   Really? Here's one fundamental difference between the two:

When Miss Black America was started, young black girls had two options:

1.) Enter Miss Black America pageant.
2.) Enter the nothing at all pageant.

Are white players barred from the NBA? No.  The guys hired to wear sneakers and put the ball in the little red hoop are black.  But most of the coaches, team owners, most of the people who make the decisions are white. If there was ever a point in history where a young white kid who wanted to play basketball simply wasn't allowed, he would be completely justified in starting his own organization.  But here and now, in 2010  There is no justification for it.

There is validity to the point that the Miss Black America pageant is outdated. But has been largely marginalized in the way that outdated ideas are meant to be.  In fact, the ONLY time I ever hear it mentioned at all is when whites point to it as an example of how whites are discriminated against.  But again, the main difference between this racist endeavor and  Miss Black America, BET, the United Negro College Fund?

ALL of the others are justified in beginning in the first place.

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I read the article. They feel that whites are being discriminated against and want something soley for "whites."

How about you actually attempt to answer the question? Why do you seem to believe that only whites can and do engage in racism?


I hope that you realize that the very idea is ridiculous.  One thing that is universal is that every ethnic group loves to see examples of "one of their own" being successful, especially in the domain of the "Other." It's why Eminem is so popular (Even Eminem has said this, in "White America")   So if a "Great White Hope" came along and played the way Jordan played, the NBA would jump all over it.

Also, Where is it said, or even implied, that only whites are racist? I'm sure there are some people somewhere who believe that, but we can generally put those people in the same box with the people that believe God made colored people out of mud, and whites out of a more precious substance (Iiterally.)

Having said all that, this is my main problem with the venture, as quoted from the "Commisioner" of the league:

"Lewis said he wants to emphasize fundamental basketball instead of "street-ball" played by "people of color." He pointed out recent incidents in the NBA, including Gilbert Arenas' indefinite suspension after bringing guns into the Washington Wizards locker room, as examples of fans' dissatisfaction with the way current professional sports are run.

"Would you want to go to the game and worry about a player flipping you off or attacking you in the stands or grabbing their crotch?" he said. "That's the culture today, and in a free country we should have the right to move ourselves in a better direction."

Now, "Streetball," crotch-grabbing, flipping people off, these are all learned behaviors.

The definition of racism according to dictionary.com is:

"1.     a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others."

He claims not to be racist, but by taking these unsavory behaviors and using whiteness as a contrast, he implies that the NBA players do these things not because they learned bad habits, but because it's their nature as black people.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:33:36 PM   
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....or the fact that males is totally discriminated in custody batles in the courts.


This was the case years ago, but it is not anymore. The fact is that that more often than not, the male is not willing to do what is necessary to win the custody, which in effect shows them to be the less appropriate parent. Over a dozen years of working in Family Law, and I have seen it personally. I have also seen the men who are willing to do what it takes to get custody. Sorry, but those that are usually screaming they are discriminated against give up the fight and then say it was because the courts "discriminate" against fathers.


Fucking bullshit. I have a court judgement which states "as both parents seems equally qualified the custody is awarded to the mother". What can be more sexist than that. The fact is that 85 % of custody cases falls out to the mothers advantages unless you can prove she is a drug addict, whore or something else of the kind. The fact she in the past has been very reluctant to spend time with her child do not count. I have the court documents to prove that.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:34:58 PM   
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Under their system, everything is "legal". If it weren't for the money generated in college and pro, they can make both leagues all caucasian. but they know where their success lies.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:37:03 PM   
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Im having a bit of trouble and not sure if im looking in the right places, any advice would be nice :)

Im not like most people here, interested in sex, bondage, pain and other things related which is making this search of mine pretty hard. As you can tell by my name i do have a foot fetish (females only) and i do have alot of fantasies to do with feet i'd love to try. Just so you know, so far i haven't had any experience so everything im interested in is basically what i fantasize about and not what i've actually tried.

Ontop of the foot fetish all i really want is to find a Domme who i can spend time with in every day life not some dungeon in latex. I want to be used to serve her, ill clean, cook, give massages and generally just wait on her hand and foot taking care of all her needs so she can relax. Objectification and pet play look like things i'd like to try too.
I have no idea why but taking care of someone like this is a huuuuge turn on for me. If i can work while somone relaxes and snaps their fingers then ill be in heaven (throw in the foot stuff as a reward and its perfect)
In return i want to be respected and looked after, i dont want to be whipped i'd rather be cuddled!

I want to be like a dog, you pet it and love it and look after it but expect it to what its told... SIT! like that lol
I wouldnt mind just being an object there to make a Dommes life easier. I dont mind things like being walked on but not whipping or tortured.

Im probably looking in the completely wrong place since everyone wants more such as the pain and stuff.
I just want a little pink collar :(

My profile thingy has my pictures and stuff if you want to have a look.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:39:20 PM   
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Funny, nobody obviously want to answer to the all male draft question or is that just stonewalled.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 1:45:51 PM   
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Funny, nobody obviously want to answer to the all male draft question or is that just stonewalled.


The answser is the same as it has always been. Men are unable to become pregant. Of course we don't have a draft in the US anymore, simply young men must register in case it ever becomes necessary again.

But still, guys can't get pregnant. So women do did not want to go would become pregnant. The military can not force them to terminate the pregnancy, nor can they force them to sign over custody to someone else so they can serve.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 2:03:26 PM   
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I vote they move to Wisconsin and rename the team the 'Wisconsin Wiggers'

See how long it lasts then

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 3:32:30 PM   
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To all of you who think this is benign, normal, fair and even acceptable: you're fucked in the head  .



"In the past 72 hours, I've been approached by two different parties to not only televise what we're doing, but to turn this into a reality show from the time we start all the way through, and at the end, have our white all-stars play a group of all-star black players, with the series called Snowball vs. Bro Ball.


But hey... it's all in good fun, right  ?

Fucked UP.


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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 3:38:21 PM   
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Im probably looking in the completely wrong place since everyone wants more such as the pain and stuff.
I just want a little pink collar :(


Yeah, wrong place, unless you can dunk.

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 3:40:16 PM   
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"An all-white basketball league was proposed earlier in the week by a group calling itself the All-American Basketball Alliance. The league's commissioner, Don "Moose" Lewis, said that in "the culture today" you have to "worry about a player flipping you off or attacking you in the stands or grabbing their crotch." Therefore, he said, he wanted to create a league that focuses on "fundamental basketball" instead of "street-ball" played by "people of color.""


Oh my fucking word. I haven't been paying this much attention, so now that I have a moment, this is what this league encourages and people are saying it's not racist? Kittin, you, as always, are on it luv. WTF? .


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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 3:50:51 PM   
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Apparently, it's all very cool because: white people are such victims of racism already; because of Miss Black America, so why can't 'we' have a white-only basketball team; and because Merc is peeved because he doesn't like affirmative action.

Oh, and because of Anne Frank too  .

(How're you, Aynne ? :-)

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 4:05:46 PM   
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Missing you of course, and apparently not cool, not cool at all. I am so uncool that I can't find the coolness of this pudgy white boys b-ball team. I hate being so un-cool. Fuck me for having been stuck growing up in liberal new england in this bastion of blue states and progressive thinking. I will never be as cool as someone with a hood with those cool eye holes  from appalachia. I also will never have two first names or fuck my cousin. Dang. .  

Let's catch up tomorrow if you have time, drop me a note on the other side. *squeezes and spanks* 

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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 4:09:07 PM   
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Wait, because we are white *and* women, we must really be victims of racism and discrimination right?  Well then glad I got this all figured out kittin. Phew. Cue the victim mode. Is there where I start whining about how I didn't get a job because Affirmative Action gave it to a _____________ instead? And I scored way higher and it is so unfair. Pick your color or ethnicity of course. Keep me posted on the right way to do this. ;) 


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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 4:20:50 PM   
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I will never be as cool as someone with a hood with those cool eye holes  from appalachia. I also will never have two first names or fuck my cousin. Dang. .  


Aynne, you know I like you, but can't you (or kittin, a-hem ) see that comments like that are no better than, "as cool as someone from the 'hood, pants hanging off his ass, named after lemon jello, and slanging rocks"?

And how do you know the honky b-ballers are "pudgy"?


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RE: White American only basketball league. - 1/23/2010 4:25:22 PM   
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lol. Okay I had it coming. The pudgy came from clicking on kittin's link, the picture of the dude that is the team owner or whatever he is. I'm a wee bit overtired, and this just...I don't know, pissed me off.

Why do kittin and I get grouped together so often? Over on Gor, it's like we are the same person. .

Bad stereotypes. I'm sorry. However, I am not sorry for my opinion that this is racist and stupid. Oh the affirmative action opinion still stands too, I will take back the cousin fucking appalachia hood comment only because of you. But you know there is someone right now deep in the Ozarks named Tommy Bob banging the hell out of his cousin Sally Jane.


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