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RE: Journals - 1/30/2010 3:50:35 PM   
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From his very first contact with native people, Columbus had their domination in mind. For example, on October 14, 1492, Columbus wrote in his journal, "with fifty men they can all be subjugated and made to do what is required of them." These were not mere words: after his second voyage, Columbus sent back a consignment of natives to be sold as slaves.



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The type of people that I am attracted to have the ability to live and respond in the moment in the moment. Not every fucking thing has to be contemplated and delivered only when properly tweaked or perfected.


People can live and respond in the moment and also write things down in a journal. I am not sure how that means, " every fucking thing has to be contemplated and delivered only when properly tweaked or perfected".

You are talking about a certain dynamic and it is not only found in someone who writes a journal.

A good writer/thinker could write interesting things.

There is a perfectly tweaked package arriving any moment.

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RE: Journals - 1/30/2010 6:11:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aldompdx

One purpose for journaling is reflection upon one's self truth. Before learning full open honesty with another, one must become honest with themself.


Totally! Self-therapeutic.

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RE: Journals - 1/30/2010 6:16:41 PM   
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Not every fucking thing has to be contemplated and delivered only when properly tweaked or perfected.



This. Said much more directly than me.

And sometimes it doesn't need to be contemplated, or even said, at all.

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RE: Journals - 1/30/2010 7:44:14 PM   
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We talk....

I'd much rather hear real in the moment thoughts.

I read books and newspapers




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RE: Journals - 1/31/2010 9:20:15 AM   
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A lot of subs I know really don't seem to either have the time to do a journal..or if they do have the time, they want you to read the dam thing every dayand frankly, I don't have time for it every day..sometimes I go a week befor reading them. And then they felt like I didn't care...which wasn't true...but there it is...

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RE: Journals - 1/31/2010 9:48:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Huntertn

A lot of subs I know really don't seem to either have the time to do a journal..or if they do have the time, they want you to read the dam thing every dayand frankly, I don't have time for it every day..sometimes I go a week befor reading them. And then they felt like I didn't care...which wasn't true...but there it is...


This is something that seems to occur alot of times. One writes in journal or emails and then they have an expectation that you will read it AND comment about it. Their is even an expectation that develops when they talk to you that you should somehow comment or validate what they are saying.

I get rather annoyed of these self created expectations that my girls sometimes develope. In the beginning Kyra would write emails and sometimes they would be rather long-winded. Sometimes I would comment on it and sometimes on a little part or not at all. I remeber with amusement how sometimes she would get frustrated that I didn't make note of it etc. It took Kyra in the beginning awhile to adjust her mindset and not create a false expectation that I wouldn't say anything. As my slave she had to adjust her mindset. I have found a relationship goes through alot of unneccessary stress when false expectations exist in the dynamic... no matter who created it. A false expectation is when on part of the relationship has an expectation that the others don't have. Often it's more lack of or miss communication that create these situations. But, sometimes it's part of the baggage we bring into a relationship that we have to address for the benefit of the relationship.

As a final note.... I find it important that my slaves understand that they share their thoughts and feelings with me... BUT that doesn't mean I will be obligated to respond to such thoughts and feelings. In fact, they are obligated to share their thoughts and feelings in a constructive manner and not anyway they choose. So... if they feel I don't care because I didn't comment.... then they have created a false expectation... and it would get me very annoyed! I love and care for them for who they are!... and not for what I do for them! What I do for them is more about who I am than what I feel for them!

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RE: Journals - 1/31/2010 4:13:27 PM   
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Another sub perspective:

I use writing in a number of different ways to sort out and process my feelings and thoughts on things.

I keep a personal journal that no one reads--including me. I almost never reread what I've written, but the act of writing helps me better understand things. If my owner wanted to read it, he could, but he hasn't shown any interest in it and I don't blame him. It's stuff written by me for me to help me. It's very much "interior monologue" type stuff that would bore the hell out of anyone to read, but like I said, I don't write it for someone to read it, I write it as a way to process and work through my own stuff. Someone in this thread said something about the value of reflection, and that's what makes this journal useful to me. When I write, I am reflecting, which helps me speak clearly and in an organized fashion when I talk to my owner or email him.

I use the collarme journal mostly to record quotes I want to remember about submission and milestones in my relationship. Since this is my first D/s relationship, the quotes and milestones are useful to me as a personal chronicle of my submission. I do reread this journal maybe once or twice a month just go get a sense of perspective on where I am and how I got there in terms of submission.

I email my owner every day that we are not together (we are apart 4-5 days/week). My emails are usually pretty light, sharing an anecdote about something that happened during the day, or commenting on current events--the kind of things we would discuss over dinner if he were in town. My emails often also include some kind of reflection about my submission. My daily email is the only writing my owner requires of me. It's definitely not journal-type stuff in the sense of "baring my soul" to him or hashing out psychodramas. It's writing I do for him with him in mind as my reader.

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RE: Journals - 2/1/2010 5:00:08 PM   
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I keep a journal for Daddy. He never gives me any assignments or anything, well one but I haven't been able to do that one yet. I don't know what my fantasies are.

I mostly use it to talk about how I'm feeling about what's going on in our house, or how I'm feeling in general. I also use it to bring up topics I'm too shy to ask or bring up when we're just talking. That way I can address it and not have to worry. The only thing Daddy asks is that I be completely honest in it like everything else and that even if they're negative emotions to be polite.

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RE: Journals - 2/4/2010 12:04:09 AM   
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My mentor(who I soon hope to be my Master) asked me to write a journal. He never reads it. Sometimes I will tell him what I wrote. He just wants me to understand my thought processes. I have been going thru alot of changes in my life. I am young and sometimes still dont quite understand myself. Even tho he was the one who told me to journal. I journal for him some and then some for myself. I enjoy writing and so it works out well for me. I write in my journal most everyday. Sometimes I miss a day when Im busy or when Im feeling sad and pessimistic. The things that I write in my journal. Everyday things. How I am feeling about different people in my life, my job, him. I write about my future plans. Anything that I am thinking of when i get ready to write.

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RE: Journals - 4/27/2010 3:46:05 PM   
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When I first meet a sub/slave, I need to understand her. Especially so for her fantasies. The purpose of the journal is to understand her life and values. We are two separate people who come together for a common purpose. The more I know about her, the better I can Dom her. Journals have been very important to me.

Jeff

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RE: Journals - 4/27/2010 5:08:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood
[Contrary to popular belief, not all Doms want to spend all day wrestling with the psychology of it all, acknowledging the struggle, turning the whole thing into a mental exercise about strength, power, trust blah blah blah.


Amen.

When I come home at the end of a long day at work, I don't want a long description of submissive psychodrama; I want my dinner made, the house clean, a sweet girl to keep me company, and someone to share my bed.

I don't know who it is that keeps telling women that men really get off on long soulful discussions about how we are feeling, or what this relationship means.

But whoever it is, knock it off already.
full belly, empty balls, clean house.....men are so easy to keep happy if ya keep it simple.......

shit, now i see this thing is a couple months old......i amaze me some days

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