Ialdabaoth
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Joined: 5/4/2008 From: Tempe, AZ Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: NihilusZero He doesn't need luck. Just the motivated pointing out that his points are flawed, based on presuming that the human condition can be traced back, simply, to more primitive primal instincts. And even if it could, it's a non sequitur to try and correlate that to sadomasochism as it is performed nowadays. Actually, the problem with his point is more fundamental than that: if what he were saying were evolutionarily true, we'd see a lot of other behaviors in our nearest primate relatives that we just plain don't see. Mating can occur by rape, yes, but that is far less common and far less likely than mating which occurs by proper courtship protocols. In fact, the energy requirements for reproduction-by-rape are higher, the potential payoffs lower, and the damage to the pack's social cohesion much higher than for courtship-based reproductive strategies. Heck, there's some pretty good evidence that the entirety of human speech, music, and dance all evolved as courtship rituals - something that is utterly unnecessary if sex occurs without prototypical "consent" signals. So it's not just that his points are specious or irrelevant; they're just flat out wrong.
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