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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:21:29 PM   
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But if we give him hugs in such a manner won't that be done casually, and damage him further - at least, by his theory?

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C'mon, Karen.  Help me out here.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:21:44 PM   
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BLoved, I'd like to add what I was meaning to say earlier- which is that, don't think that you are so alone out there. You're really not- most people, just about anyone really, no mater who they are, would LOVE to have true love, the kind that you are advocating for. Even the ones who aren't searching for it or don't expect it would choose it over the casual bdsm or casual sex that you abhor.

The thing is, it's not that easy to find. As you know. It's quite sad, really...one of the great tragedies of life. Alot of us have never had it. Some of us may never have it again. Others ruin it inadvertently...

That's why it's important to not alienate the whole world so greatly..neither on the internet nor in real life. You shouldn't have to suffer so much by yourself. So stop judging people (aloud at least, heh), without compromising your values.


Thank you Alice.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:22:48 PM   
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Let's just ALL give him hugs . . .

He'd have to wash up first . . . way too many dogs in his life.




C'mon, RS.  Help me out here.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:25:34 PM   
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*tries to imagine what her apartment in Manhattan would look like with 5 sled dogs and 4 cats* 


uhm ... nine dogs, four cats.

~smile~

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:27:22 PM   
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 Does this mean I don't get a trophy?



Winnie, Of course you get a trophy.  Everyone who posted ANYTHING here gets a trophy.  ETA:  But ONLY as they get OFF the train. The trophy says "In proud recognition of the fact that you were samrt enough to realize the train (of thought) titled "A Legend returns ... " had reached the end of the line.


Thanks Lance but I respectfully pass on the trophy.



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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:33:39 PM   
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BLoved: I must leave for an appointment in a few minutes.  PLEASE repsond to my post # 671 (page 34.)  Since I'll be gone for quite a while, please leave me CMail with post # and page #.

Regards, Lance
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To all others: Please, please just leave him alone for awhile.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:33:43 PM   
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*tries to imagine what her apartment in Manhattan would look like with 5 sled dogs and 4 cats* 


uhm ... nine dogs, four cats.

~smile~


oh sorry! wow lol


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:37:40 PM   
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But if we give him hugs in such a manner won't that be done casually, and damage him further - at least, by his theory?

edited for clarity


C'mon, Karen.  Help me out here.


Sorry, couldn't help it ... it was just soooo easy ...

I've given up on him, honestly - he's so stuck in his current headspace that nothing we do is goign to change it. I do feel sorry for him, but only to a point - and that point ends when he begins judging me and my friends. For all of his high-handed Christian morality ... what happened to "let he who is without sin cast the first stone?" - I admit that I'm not without sin, but I will not sit back and just watch as someone throws stones my way, no matter how messed up he/she is - I'm going to throw some right back.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:43:15 PM   
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What?  No 'wax on, wax off'?



C'mon, Lady P, Help me out here....

P.S. Thunder scrotum demo was a few years ago.  I didn't "make" Thunder last year.  If you do come, please let me know..... maybe a coffee or something if I can't afford the $$$ to the seminars/dungeons.

Yes, I admit, that one was wrong, but the comedic timing was good. 

When I made it to Thunder last year, I had every intention to meet some folks local to the area that weren't attending the event.  I was trying to squeeze everything in at once, and I didn't get a chance to say hello to everyone I had hoped to.  This was during the cross country move, so I managed to make the event, but not much else.  The invitation for coffee is always a good one, though I tend to think we'd have to set aside some serious time.  It occurs to Me that we would probably enjoy each other's company a great deal.

Julia, I'm glad you noticed what I had said.  I'm not nearly the research person that you are, but I have a serious appreciation for it.  I agree with you that it only takes one exception to nullify an absolute.

In the context of this thread, I've been looking at the whole premise of this from the words of the OP being in relation to the top side of BDSM.  (I'm a top, so that's My natural leap.)  I think there have been some other tops who have been looking at it the same way as well.  Especially those of us who identify as sadists.

However, there is another side to that and that is from the position of mashochists.  Their desires for pain to be inflicted on them is just as much of the equation.  In relationships, we often discuss such concepts as maintenance spankings and so forth.  Where does this leave the masochist who does not fit the 'true love' requirement? 


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 1:44:42 PM   
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Summary:

Please, please, please.  I beg you, join us in the present without forgetting your past.

"means"

For your own sake, for which I am very concerned (as are others), get some grief counseling which willl help you move forward in your life.  That counseling will not suggest/require/mandate that you leave the memories of your TRUE Love Life (with a capital "L") experiences behind.


Lance, the problem is you are operating on what others have said without bothering to ask me whether any of it is accurate.

From this set of misrepresentations you've been given you've drawn conclusions which have no bearing on me or my life.

I suggest that listening to anyone but me about me is probably the first mistake anyone is going to make if they wish to understand me or communicate with me.

These people whom you insist want me to "join" you are the purveyors of these distortions, half-truths and slander.

We've witnessed over 500 posts in this thread that illustrate the process quite clearly.

I appreciate your concern but I believe it is misplaced.

I'd be more concerned with why my friends are inventing stories and palming them off on me, were I you.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 2:01:15 PM   
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There are already two elsewheres that I have noticed!

I do recall the opening poster vaguely. He has not changed the content and style of his posts nor his attitude. I have read a couple of his posts in this thread and they discourage me from reading any more.

Edited to add: That ~smile~ of his in my opinion is creepy.


At the very least, it is patently dishonest.


An apology to the OP:
It is clear that you are enjoying yourself here and it was not my place to judge your smile as disingenuous.



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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 2:15:34 PM   
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Let's just ALL give him hugs . . .

He'd have to wash up first . . . way too many dogs in his life.

C'mon, RS. Help me out here.

It's not like you asked me to hug you! You’re clean shaven, stash is trimmed, your leather has been conditioned nicely, your profile pic shows you in a civilized area. I’d hug you without hesitation. I am also pretty sure you have running water and electricity at your disposal for hot baths.

Now I’m not saying we shouldn’t all go hug Robert . . . but allow me my hesitations. And please, take this with the jest it is given. I may clash with Robert about his manifesto but this isn’t a personal dig. His beard is not a closely cropped city slicker style beard . . . it’s grizzly Adams style. His pictures show a wilderness void of power lines and telephone poles. He lives in a log cabin style A-frame with a potbelly stove and many, many dogs. I wonder, does he have running water . . . electricity . . . a bathroom or an outhouse? So, I hesitate without having more information.

Einstein forgot to tie his shoes or eat. I am pretty sure bathing was low on the list compared to eating. Robert, like Einstein, is a man driven by a vision. What if he was completely focused on that 19,604 word manifesto and didn’t wash the whole time? What if his strong powers over the dogs to not eat the cats is his odor?

I am sure that in real life Robert is well groomed and living in the lap of modern luxury. However, a photo of bath tub or that hug ain’t gonna’ happen!

Lance, Almost any other request, including hugging Wendy repeatedly, from behind, while she is gagged, will be granted without hesitation.)

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 4:36:27 PM   
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An apology to the OP:
It is clear that you are enjoying yourself here and it was not my place to judge your smile as disingenuous.


Thank you.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 4:56:02 PM   
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Einstein forgot to tie his shoes or eat. I am pretty sure bathing was low on the list compared to eating. Robert, like Einstein, is a man driven by a vision. What if he was completely focused on that 19,604 word manifesto and didn’t wash the whole time? What if his strong powers over the dogs to not eat the cats is his odor?


I suppose the What-If scenario is civil enough, however I must say, looking at Bob's photos I am quite impressed at the natural beauty of whatever small town in Canada he is. An entire wall of glass in Manhattan would be considered I believe, a skylight and up the price of the average apartment to a bare minimum of SIX MILLION dollars per month. Utilities NOT included. A wall of wood or stone would be unheard of. In Manhattan, a single square INCH of exposed brick would cost you $2000 a month.

Long story short, your house is glorious, Bob, and I am jealous of you.  And secretly, I think RS is hiding his shameful but impassioned homoerotic lust for you behind a camouflaged armor of snarky jest.

(What RS is really thinking about you:  ---------->   )

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Lance, Almost any other request, including hugging Wendy repeatedly, from behind, while she is gagged, will be granted without hesitation.)


Oh RS, RS, RS. You silly, silly man. 

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 4:56:21 PM   
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... And please, take this with the jest it is given. I may clash with Robert about his manifesto but this isn’t a personal dig. His beard is not a closely cropped city slicker style beard . . . it’s grizzly Adams style.


~smile~

I am told it is the kind that makes women run for a comb and scissors.

I do miss that ... one of the little things. Not the same giving myself a trim from time to time to keep my moustache out of my tea cup.

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His pictures show a wilderness void of power lines and telephone poles.


True. I have a number of furry forest creatures running a treadmill so I can keep the candle lit while I type this on my computer ;)

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He lives in a log cabin style A-frame


More of a split-level bungalow, actually

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with a potbelly stove


A rather modern (or it was when I bought it) woodstove

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and many, many dogs.


True :)

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I wonder, does he have running water


In the spring the stream that runs across the property flows quite freely.

Very peaceful, listening to the trickle of tiny waterfalls here and there.

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. . . electricity . . .


... furry forest creatures? treadmill?

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a bathroom or an outhouse?


Bathroom, yes. Outhouse? That would be just about anywhere on the property ... the forest is dense around my home, can't even see the road from the house.

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Einstein forgot to tie his shoes or eat.


True, his wife complained he would wear the same clothing if she didn't put out a new outfit for him from time to time.

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I am pretty sure bathing was low on the list compared to eating.


the stomach rumbles more often than the skin itches.

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Robert, like Einstein, is a man driven by a vision. What if he was completely focused on that 19,604 word manifesto and didn’t wash the whole time? What if his strong powers over the dogs to not eat the cats is his odor?


Well, actually, I don't have an odor. I can go years and years ... uhm, day after day and not "stink".

I am told, by those with more expertise in this than I, that the rare time I do sweat I've a pleasant manly smell.

And after all, if I smelled of decomposing flesh I'm sure my dogs would let me know ;)

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I am sure that in real life Robert is well groomed and living in the lap of modern luxury.


There is a very nice picture in my profile of the view of my living room from where I am sitting now.

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However, a photo of bath tub or that hug ain’t gonna’ happen!


I really hadn't thought of that. It is a nice bathtub, one of those deep basin types where the water can rise to your shoulders. Hardly been used aside from my showers (just not the same having a candle-light bath on your own).

I trust this addresses your concerns ;)

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 5:01:08 PM   
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Well, actually, I don't have an odor. I can go years and years ... uhm, day after day and not "stink".

I am told, by those with more expertise in this than I, that the rare time I do sweat I've a pleasant manly smell.

And after all, if I smelled of decomposing flesh I'm sure my dogs would let me know ;)






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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 5:01:14 PM   
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There are a lot of people whose reputations for mature, responsible behaviour went out the window after tangling with me.


So your saying that you have to ability to drive otherwise mature people crazy? I'm not sure that's something I would be bragging about.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 5:02:12 PM   
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Seriously though, Bob I will still be willing to hug you, I think you need a nice platonic hug.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 5:04:27 PM   
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Long story short, your house is glorious, Bob, and I am jealous of you. 


Thank you.

I call it my "little corner of paradise" and I am very pleased to own every root and twig on this 2.5 acre property.

I'm the first in my family in several generations to own his own home outright.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 5:08:03 PM   
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Seriously though, Bob I will still be willing to hug you, I think you need a nice platonic hug.


~smile~

Thank you, Alice.

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