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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:39:34 PM   
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I have never been a victim of anyone...


Your behaviour here speaks far more eloquently than your claims.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:40:01 PM   
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I have never been a victim of anyone...


Your behaviour here speaks far more eloquently than your claims.



How so?


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:42:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I have never been a victim of anyone...

Your behaviour here speaks far more eloquently than your claims.

How so?


Your insecurity and need to attack is so obvious.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:44:41 PM   
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I'm fine with whatever you need to do to find your destiny Bob. The same as I am with most anyone-as long as they do no harm to others in the process.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:45:56 PM   
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On second thought, I really do not care what you think of me, you never address the substance of my posts, so just go on in your la la land world and forget it... I will just provide commentary on your shit when you post it so it doesn't go unchallenged...

Women have been subjected to this paternalistic shit since the dawn of time.. you are not new, Bob, you are a throw back to a very old worldview of the female gender.. that we have to be protected from ourselves and we are not strong enough to make it on our own and we are not quite as wise or as all knowing as men are. I am so glad that my dom is nothing like you.. he completely believes in me and my abilities and supports me in my growth as a human being


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:47:41 PM   
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Many of us welcomed you. Many of us tried to help you every time you typed something rude and socially unaceptable. We were met with derision and scorn.


Absolutely untrue and you know it. Absolutely untrue. Good attempt at manipulation. (*not*) Should I hunt up the very, very first post from you to me? I may try to do that tomorrow. Or should I link to how you JUST attacked me 10minutes ago-out of the blue- having not spoken to you in weeks- by calling me a man on a dating/fetish/WHATever website in front of a bunch of random other people. There is a good likelihood that you are only being civil to me now because you've just been tapped by a mod (since I reported you). I've noticed lots of you women on here tend to do that- it's like grade school again- wildly rude and mean-spirited at every turn to another girl, especially in a crowd of you- until the moment Teacher scolds you, you go being SO NICE to them and start playing at being nice to the one you were just rude to. Its like there's no internal discipline mechanism or core concept of decent behavior. Either that, or your moods change drastically from moment to moment.

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As far as I'm concerned you're nothing but a troll. (one who is very insecure in his femininity or you wouldn't continue to point out that some of us are older, curvier, and infinitely less attractive than you.)


Also untrue. You can believe anything you want. Nice how you just called me a man again. And camouflage that insult with a lesser insult of being insecure in my femininity. Very smart. And I wonder why *hmmm* WHY it might be that I keep "pointing out that some of us are older, curvier, and infinitely less attractive"...hmmm I wonder what reason I could have ....I guess I must just have an overinflated ego of magnificent proportions...sure that must be it!

Or maybe I am defending my looks from your constant insults....


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:52:20 PM   
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What is astounding, Julia, is how you manage to invent these delusions out of thin air.

What is obvious is how you are projecting your internal demons upon me and then playing out your rage for having been victimized by someone you trusted in your life.

Truly, you need help with this. You are manifesting your symptoms in public and appear to be completely unaware of it.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

On second thought, I really do not care what you think of me, you never address the substance of my posts, so just go on in your la la land world and forget it... I will just provide commentary on your shit when you post it so it doesn't go unchallenged...

Women have been subjected to this paternalistic shit since the dawn of time.. you are not new, Bob, you are a throw back to a very old worldview of the female gender.. that we have to be protected from ourselves and we are not strong enough to make it on our own and we are not quite as wise or as all knowing as men are.




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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 7:56:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

On second thought, I really do not care what you think of me, you never address the substance of my posts, so just go on in your la la land world and forget it... I will just provide commentary on your shit when you post it so it doesn't go unchallenged...

Women have been subjected to this paternalistic shit since the dawn of time.. you are not new, Bob, you are a throw back to a very old worldview of the female gender.. that we have to be protected from ourselves and we are not strong enough to make it on our own and we are not quite as wise or as all knowing as men are. I am so glad that my dom is nothing like you.. he completely believes in me and my abilities and supports me in my growth as a human being



Well, I for one think that paternalistic shit is all over. Yay! If it exists, I'll just ignore it and pretend that it doesn't. Personally, I think they never *actually* thought any of that, they just made up some theories as justification for power over women. It's wonderful when you find a guy who isn't like that....

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:03:36 PM   
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Alice, she is bashing me because I am a man seeking a lady. My essays were written for a female audience.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
On second thought, I really do not care what you think of me, you never address the substance of my posts, so just go on in your la la land world and forget it... I will just provide commentary on your shit when you post it so it doesn't go unchallenged...

Women have been subjected to this paternalistic shit since the dawn of time.. you are not new, Bob, you are a throw back to a very old worldview of the female gender.. that we have to be protected from ourselves and we are not strong enough to make it on our own and we are not quite as wise or as all knowing as men are. I am so glad that my dom is nothing like you.. he completely believes in me and my abilities and supports me in my growth as a human being

Well, I for one think that paternalistic shit is all over. Yay! If it exists, I'll just ignore it and pretend that it doesn't. Personally, I think they never *actually* thought any of that, they just made up some theories as justification for power over women. It's wonderful when you find a guy who isn't like that....



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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:04:25 PM   
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What is obvious is how you are projecting your internal demons upon me and then playing out your rage for having been victimized by someone you trusted in your life.

Truly, you need help with this. You are manifesting your symptoms in public and appear to be completely unaware of it.


Wow that WAS shitty Bob.

*sigh* and so the collar turns...both ways..there is no escape from the doucheyness on here. 4th ring of hell. Can no one be nice for more than 5 minutes?



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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:07:51 PM   
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Alice, she is bashing me because I am a man seeking a lady. My essays were written for a female audience.


No..she wasn't bashing you at least not here. I don't read entire threads but..she seemed pretty straightforward about everything. She didn't agree with your paradigm on logical grounds. Doesn't agree with your view of women.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:08:36 PM   
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What is obvious is how you are projecting your internal demons upon me and then playing out your rage for having been victimized by someone you trusted in your life.




Some excepts from your profile

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What kind of 'beloved' would he be if he won't make you feel you are all the woman he needs in his life?

What kind of relationship would require you to constantly pimp yourself to other women so as to keep your man happy?


Maybe the female is bisexual, maybe she is asserting her sexuality... your assumption is she is being victimized... why? Is it because women shouldn't make sexual choices for themselves?

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Why does bdsm attract so many broken women?

Just how "responsible" would a man have to be to involve a broken woman in bdsm? Taking advantage of her insecurities to manipulate her into giving him whatever he wishes?

What kind of man settles for a broken woman?

If you need fixing, you shouldn't be involved in bdsm.


From your stance on this thread, anyone that would choose differently than you is either broken or a predator of the broken if they want poly, or they desire to add others to their play... it cannot be consensual according to you, it is abuse... women don't know what is good for them, they need you to tell them...

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It is an unfortunate reality on this site that so many women believe the only 'asset' they have that will attract men is their body.

Nude pictures and a short announcement that they are available is all they provide to attract the man of their dreams.


How do you know that their motivation is to find a mate, perhaps they want to sexually stimulate themselves by exhibiting their wares... you do know about the fetish called exhibitionism... but women cannot be lustful predators... so they must be prey in your eyes... they can't be seeking to actualize their inner slut for their own sake, they have to be selling themselves out... your black and white view of the world...

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They say nothing about their heart, or thoughts, or anything that might attract a thoughtful, intelligent, responsible man.


Maybe they seek to share those things with a person that they feel is deserving of them, not to just anyone...

Mind you, none of this has naught to do with me because I am not seeking a dom here... I actually like the people that post on this site....But when I do seek to satisfy my lustful desires I certainly have not felt a victim for it, in fact I would venture to guess I am not the only female that feels that the paternalistic view of female sexuality has kept us from enjoying our bodies in a way that is healthy, that has made some women take risks with their health by not taking care with diseases, etc..


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:09:56 PM   
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#1. Desperately enraged, the emails may be. Immature even. But deceitful and cowardly- certainly not, .....

....Yet here you are weeks later complaining about how I sent you an angry email and how DARE I call anyone on ganing up against me.

jesus friggchristf@^E%#*@shit

Entertainment out.


Justify it however you wish, dispute it however long you wish to, but it is my opinion that your actions were deceitful and cowardly.  You cannot change my opinion of your PAST behavior.  I'm not complaining weeks later of what you did then, I'm connecting your behavior here (referencing your insulting email to Greedy) on this particular day, with your behavior in the past threads on previous days.  Behavior which hasn't changed, since your M.O. is apparently the same.

If you are going to go around starting a dozen or more small fires, you shouldn't be surprised when those small fires converge on you into one enormous inferno.  Its pretty simple really. 

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:10:08 PM   
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Wow that WAS shitty Bob.


In what way?

I can see how her problem can wreak havoc with someone who suffers from low self-esteem.

Why should I not tell her when she is so obviously unaware of how she manifests this problem?


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:10:43 PM   
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Many of us welcomed you. Many of us tried to help you every time you typed something rude and socially unaceptable. We were met with derision and scorn.


Absolutely untrue and you know it. Absolutely untrue. Good attempt at manipulation. (*not*) Should I hunt up the very, very first post from you to me? I may try to do that tomorrow. Or should I link to how you JUST attacked me 10minutes ago-out of the blue- having not spoken to you in weeks- by calling me a man on a dating/fetish/WHATever website in front of a bunch of random other people. There is a good likelihood that you are only being civil to me now because you've just been tapped by a mod (since I reported you). I've noticed lots of you women on here tend to do that- it's like grade school again- wildly rude and mean-spirited at every turn to another girl, especially in a crowd of you- until the moment Teacher scolds you, you go being SO NICE to them and start playing at being nice to the one you were just rude to. Its like there's no internal discipline mechanism or core concept of decent behavior. Either that, or your moods change drastically from moment to moment.

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As far as I'm concerned you're nothing but a troll. (one who is very insecure in his femininity or you wouldn't continue to point out that some of us are older, curvier, and infinitely less attractive than you.)


Also untrue. You can believe anything you want. Nice how you just called me a man again. And camouflage that insult with a lesser insult of being insecure in my femininity. Very smart. And I wonder why *hmmm* WHY it might be that I keep "pointing out that some of us are older, curvier, and infinitely less attractive"...hmmm I wonder what reason I could have ....I guess I must just have an overinflated ego of magnificent proportions...sure that must be it!

Or maybe I am defending my looks from your constant insults....



My very first post to you was in regards to your complaint that older men kept contacting you and you didn't like it. I mentioned that since your screen name (at the time) was WendyDarling, that they were perhaps boys who never grew up...(like Peter Pan)

The rest of your comments are untrue. (and confusing.) (except for the fact that you DID in FACT admit to being born male. You know it, I know it, the mods know it, so give it up.)

If a mod needs to call me out, I am sure they will do so. I have been nothing but civilized to you since you've been here. You've done nothing but try to stir the pot.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:12:22 PM   
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Alice, she isn't even coming close to describing my views on gender equality.

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Doesn't agree with your view of women.




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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:16:05 PM   
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What is obvious is how you are projecting your internal demons upon me and then playing out your rage for having been victimized by someone you trusted in your life.

Some excepts from your profile


Indeed. Excerpts taken out of context.

You are still projecting, still raging.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:19:12 PM   
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Wow that WAS shitty Bob.


In what way?

I can see how her problem can wreak havoc with someone who suffers from low self-esteem.

Why should I not tell her when she is so obviously unaware of how she manifests this problem?



You are right, I am blissfully unaware of my insecurities...

Actually I do have insecurities... like not making it into a good PhD program, etc. I may have some guilt left over because I felt I could have been a better mommy at times... maybe a better daughter. I could even be a better submissive I suppose, but then my Daddy tells me the cracks are what lets the light in, so I should forget my perfect offering....No one is perfect, and Lord knows I am not, I am loved regardless.... by many people. I am truly a blessed person!

You can conceive that some people would argue with your worldview because they have lived a little while, been there and done that, and come back again... and perhaps we just don't agree with you? I mean you can conceive that it isn't an "attack" against you as a human being? I haven't called you any names, I have attacked your logic, your arguments, I have told you how wrong headed I think you are, but I haven't attacked you on a personal level the way you have attacked me...


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:19:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland

#1. Desperately enraged, the emails may be. Immature even. But deceitful and cowardly- certainly not, .....

....Yet here you are weeks later complaining about how I sent you an angry email and how DARE I call anyone on ganing up against me.

jesus friggchristf@^E%#*@shit

Entertainment out.


Justify it however you wish, dispute it however long you wish to, but it is my opinion that your actions were deceitful and cowardly.  You cannot change my opinion of your PAST behavior.  I'm not complaining weeks later of what you did then, I'm connecting your behavior here (referencing your insulting email to Greedy) on this particular day, with your behavior in the past threads on previous days.  Behavior which hasn't changed, since your M.O. is apparently the same.

If you are going to go around starting a dozen or more small fires, you shouldn't be surprised when those small fires converge on you into one enormous inferno.  Its pretty simple really. 


I wouldn't be talking about my M.O. if I were you- AGAIN it's not like you are exactly blameless considering you all set the fires. I just provided the kindling so it spread. 

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/18/2010 8:26:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
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What is obvious is how you are projecting your internal demons upon me and then playing out your rage for having been victimized by someone you trusted in your life.

Some excepts from your profile


Indeed. Excerpts taken out of context.

You are still projecting, still raging.



I could post the entire thing, but I did not take it out of context... when added up in aggregate it comes off as very paternalistic and that is how it read to me... perhaps that is not what you mean to communicate, but I am not the only one that has come away with that impression... so perhaps what you are communicating is the problem, not your receivers... Communication 101


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