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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:20:42 PM   
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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:21:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
in actuality this thread was MONOPOLIZING (I'm guessing you are familiar with the term) the intro thread, and those newbie posters you are so worried about in fact could not get their intros even noticed for this threads activity. They couldn’t stay on top of the page for any length of time at all.


And who was responsible for that?


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:21:28 PM   
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HOLY CRAP! JUMPINFRIGGINJOHOSEPHRATSBATMAN!!!!!  You are right!!!

1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.

It is the same pattern over and over- I never really thought about him being a troll, because I consider *everyone* on message boards to be trolls. It's all about being funny really. People just pretend to be serious. IMO.



:-) Just Lather, Rinse and Repeat

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:25:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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~smile~

Apples and oranges.

If you wish to argue that because I have convictions regarding casual bdsm then I must be equally rigid in every other way, you are pursing fallacious reasoning.


Ok, the above was your entire answer to me. I find it interesting that you needed to be reminded on your stance.


You said:

quote:


If you want to know what your answer was it was "apples and oranges" which was very dismissive, and didn't even attempt to address the question.


Since I knew I'd said something more than simply "apples and oranges", your claim required that I confirm that I'd said more.

Since you've demonstrated a willingness to misrepresent my answer, I see no reason in providing you with another one.

You will merely misrepresent it later.

Thank you for admitting to the misrepresentation.



I have been respectful, aboveboard and honest. I took the time to go and re-find your post (which I did not have in front of me) even though you were rather high-handed in demanding your own answer.
I'm sorry to say I cannot respect the above non-answer. It's just as much of a non-starter as your first one.
If you cannot answer this then just admit it. I totally understand why this question puts you in a bit of a spot. (it's why I asked it...)
But I'm still, nicely and respectfully asking for you to address this.

Thank you,


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:26:49 PM   
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Some even pretend to be real people pretending to be trolls pretending to be real.


Yeah think Ive been there *ahem*

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:28:06 PM   
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1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:29:15 PM   
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As for alice... put me in the group of people who don't understand or agree with the harping on her gender. Her profile says "Female." I have no interest in seeing her naked or going anywhere near here dainty bits. So the exact nature of her anatomy today, or 20 years ago, is of no consequence to me. I don't care how many people she calls fat, ugly, or old, she offers plenty of words to criticize without having to assault her gender identity. I wish people would reconsider doing so, because it's a rather ugly thing to do. And it's lazy. Plenty of other things to criticize her for before you get to that.


As much as I can appreciate your lack of sexual desire for me, I must say , perhaps everyone I could state my piece here to help clarify where this began, why they are attacking my gender and continue to do so, and why I've called people fat, ugly and old. I do NOT comprehend how this is not obvious to anyone following any of this drama



Allow me to clarify a few points. When I stated I did not understand why people were harping on your gender, I was not requesting a copy of your post-action report. Not understanding, in the context of my remarks, is a friendly companion to "not giving a fuck why the hell anyone is harping on [your] gender, it's completely irrelevant and reflects poorly on the attacker." Next... I imagine there are many things that are easily comprehended by people following along with your drama. What I can't agree with is the implicit assumption that anyone reading or responding to you would necessarily be following all your drama. I didn't read the demographics thread and had no clue what the origins were of the insult parade. I recognized the name "WendyDarling" but couldn't recall any of your posts as standing out. I didn't pay attention to you at all until you stated that I had made a "mean first post." A statement that confused and amused me for assorted reasons I don't need to go into now.

I'd stopped reading this thread over 20 pages ago until I caught some posts at the top of the board that indicated a discussion of TG disclosure. That is a subject that interests me. So I read those comments and posted a response. You were merely an illustration. And just as I don't really care why people decided it was an awesome idea to start insulting you by calling you a biological male, the number of people who were really really mean to you before you started flinging shallow and silly insults around doesn't change my opinion that your insults are shallow and silly. But then, I've never cared for the whole "he started it!" routine on the internet. If I'm going to insult someone, I'm going to insult them with the understanding that others are free to judge my comment as it stands. If you feel like you have to write a 1000 word essay "justifying" your insults, then you probably shouldn't make them in the first place. If I'm calling someone a dumbshit it's because I think they're a dumbshit, it's not because they called me a bitch first.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:30:12 PM   
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But I'm still, nicely and respectfully asking for you to address this.


While completely ignoring the fact you misrepresented my answer, twice.

I do my best to feed the trolls as little as possible.

Nice try.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:32:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Blushie, he can't answer so he is going to evade and twist, dancing and dancing, changing the subject.

It's like trying to have an intelligent discussion with a drunk.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:35:48 PM   
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Blushie, he can't answer so he is going to evade and twist, dancing and dancing, changing the subject.

It's like trying to have an intelligent discussion with a drunk.


I did answer her, as the full quote demonstrates.

Her decision to delete the relevant quote and then claim I'd only answered "apples and oranges" is a troll.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:35:51 PM   
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1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.




Bob, I truly think you're cool! However, this little synopsis right here, is the best proof I think that you're not entirely lucid in the membrane. I'm not going to refute your thoughts though- I have better things to do with my time.


< Message edited by alicenwondrland -- 2/19/2010 1:08:25 PM >

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:36:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Blushie, he can't answer so he is going to evade and twist, dancing and dancing, changing the subject.

It's like trying to have an intelligent discussion with a drunk.



I...*hic* reshemble dat remarksh...

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:40:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

SNIP SNIP SNIP SNIP


Well, I guess it’s time for the OTHER HALF of the story concerning the reason; this would be the TRUE one.

Bob, you speak that it would be a sterling representa tion of behavior for site members to intro themselves. Now, although you are only thinking of this thread and its apparently importance by the pages and views, in actuality this thread was MONOPOLIZING (I'm guessing you are familiar with the term) the intro thread, and those newbie posters you are so worried about in fact could not get their intros even noticed for this threads activity. They couldn’t stay on top of the page for any length of time at all. It was thought that you were well known enough, that although you might prefer this thread stuck off by itself , separate from the regular threads and kind of showcasing your return, it in actuality quit being an "introduce yourself" post long time ago.

So, although I truly appreciate you speaking for the site, you are incorrect in your perception. For numerous reasons, including topic is not about bdsm, it belongs in random stupidity.


Dear VAA,
So you are saying we shouldn’t publish challenges to read and debate our manifestos in the guise of an introduction in the Introduce Yourself forums?

Damn, damn damn . . . I have a 2,000 page personal web site I was gonna’ use in the Introduce Yourself forums to get me some more wimmens for my harem. Curses, you have foiled my evil plans. Now how am I gonna’ get wimmens to come breed me some babies?

So what’s a poor fellow to do. Am I supposed to introduce myself with:

“My name is Kalon Eric,
I like long walks on the beach . . . if you are at the end of my leash.
I like sunsets under the palms . . . if you are tied to the trunk.
I like pina coladas . . . made by strapping you to a wheel of St. Catherine, pouring the ingredients into your snatch, clamping it shut and giving you a good spin to mix it up. Then flip you upside down and insert a staw to drink it.”

I just don’t see how I can get me some wimmens from this here free web site if you are gonna’ make me follow the rules of posting. You evil admin you!

Disgruntled,
-Kalon Eric


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:43:30 PM   
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. . . Exactly WFT is a “meaningless sexual encounter”?

All this talk of meaningful, love and devotion, RS.....*totally* turns me on.

Flirting with sadistic old men may lead to more than a cure for that turn on!





< Message edited by ResidentSadist -- 2/19/2010 12:52:11 PM >

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:44:03 PM   
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So you are saying we shouldn’t publish challenges to read and debate our manifestos in the guise of an introduction in the Introduce Yourself forums?


I am sure if you have one singing the praises of casual bdsm there would be no problem.

Only those who speak of love have a problem on a bdsm site.


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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:45:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Blushie, he can't answer so he is going to evade and twist, dancing and dancing, changing the subject.

It's like trying to have an intelligent discussion with a drunk.


I did answer her, as the full quote demonstrates.

Her decision to delete the relevant quote and then claim I'd only answered "apples and oranges" is a troll.


If you were able to answer you would.
You can't so you won't. 
It's your MO.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:45:32 PM   
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Only those who speak of love have a problem on a bdsm site.



Your problem is you're treating it as if love and casual bdsm are mutually exclusive.

They aren't.

Lots of people speak of love on this bdsm site without the same kind of criticism. So your theory that it's because you "speak of love" goes right out the window.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:48:42 PM   
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I did answer her, as the full quote demonstrates.

Her decision to delete the relevant quote and then claim I'd only answered "apples and oranges" is a troll.


No, what you just did is the trolling. You make it sound like she went, and found your post, and deleted part of it.

After admitting you yourself didn't want to go back and find it, when you were the one who said it in the first place.

More likely, "apples and oranges" is the catchy part that stuck out in her mind, and she quoted what she remembered. And upon you harrassing her about the rest of it, she went back and found it after you refused to, and *she* came back and posted the whole thing.

She's shown nothing but willingness to cooperate in the face of one who refused to show the same courtesy.


All while complaining of "unprovoked character assassination attempts", while attempting to assassinate her character. That's downright hypocrisy.

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:51:30 PM   
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I called you a romantic which is accurate and respectful.

And that is how I read it.
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Exactly WFT is a “meaningless sexual encounter”?

Read my profile and journal.

Do you have a cliff notes version of that 19,604 word profile and journal? I was thinking along the lines of a definition for “meaningless sexual encounter” with 25 words or less maybe?

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RE: A legend returns ... - 2/19/2010 12:53:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: alicenwondrland
1. He makes a generalized and illogical statement of emotional import (or in his case more than one).
2. Many people post in response, refuting his statements point-by-point.
3. In reply Bob does not address their arguments but attacks ad hominem.


Actually:

1. I state my beliefs.
2. People troll for an emotional response.
3. I point out how they are unable to behave in a mature manner.
4. Feeling out-matched, they get more trolls.



I call "Bullshit" on this.

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