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LadyAngelika -> Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:31:03 PM)

Liberals and Atheists Smarter? Intelligent People Have Values Novel in Human Evolutionary History, Study Finds

ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2010) — More intelligent people are statistically significantly more likely to exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel to the human species in evolutionary history.  Specifically, liberalism and atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity correlate with higher intelligence, a new study finds.

The study, published in the March 2010 issue of the peer-reviewed scientific journal Social Psychology Quarterly, advances a new theory to explain why people form particular preferences and values.  The theory suggests that more intelligent people are more likely than less intelligent people to adopt evolutionarily novel preferences and values, but intelligence does not correlate with preferences and values that are old enough to have been shaped by evolution over millions of years." "Evolutionarily novel" preferences and values are those that humans are not biologically designed to have and our ancestors probably did not possess.  In contrast, those that our ancestors had for millions of years are "evolutionarily familiar."

"General intelligence, the ability to think and reason, endowed our ancestors with advantages in solving evolutionarily novel problems for which they did not have innate solutions," says Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science.  "As a result, more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles."

And it continues.. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm

I think it's an interesting concept. It talks about how intelligence is equated to the possibility of an open or curious mind to explore other possibilities.

You thoughts?
- LA




Jeffff -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:34:22 PM)

Why do you hate God?




Musicmystery -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:39:20 PM)

I'd have been smart enough not to post that.

I see studies all the time. Often stories about those studies draw erroneous conclusions--possible, but not demonstrated by the study.

Then people go all ape shit over the study that may or may not have said that in the first place.

Until I see methodology, it's a blurb. Reporters who report only the conclusions should not be allowed to report on science.




Smutmonger -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:39:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Liberals and Atheists Smarter? Intelligent People Have Values Novel in Human Evolutionary History, Study Finds

ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2010) — More intelligent people are statistically significantly more likely to exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel to the human species in evolutionary history.  Specifically, liberalism and atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity correlate with higher intelligence, a new study finds.

The study, published in the March 2010 issue of the peer-reviewed scientific journal Social Psychology Quarterly, advances a new theory to explain why people form particular preferences and values.  The theory suggests that more intelligent people are more likely than less intelligent people to adopt evolutionarily novel preferences and values, but intelligence does not correlate with preferences and values that are old enough to have been shaped by evolution over millions of years." "Evolutionarily novel" preferences and values are those that humans are not biologically designed to have and our ancestors probably did not possess.  In contrast, those that our ancestors had for millions of years are "evolutionarily familiar."

"General intelligence, the ability to think and reason, endowed our ancestors with advantages in solving evolutionarily novel problems for which they did not have innate solutions," says Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science.  "As a result, more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles."

And it continues.. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm

I think it's an interesting concept. It talks about how intelligence is equated to the possibility of an open or curious mind to explore other possibilities.

You thoughts?
- LA


Intelligence allows one an objective ability to break with tradition and custom. Custom is nothing more than ancient group consensus. The vast majority of humans accept these as being moral and correct....and they may have worked in the past-for simple survival. As we become more technologically adept-these customs no longer have as much meaning in ensuring the race continue.

In fact-with our increased ability to wage mass destruction on each other-the clashing cultures and religions now respresent a horrible threat to our survival

Consider the worry over "Nuclear Jihad" we have seen come into being in the past 20 years-and the cold war before that.

Culturally,we are still naive children.





LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:44:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Why do you hate God?


Cause he made chocolate fattening ;-)

- LA




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:46:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I'd have been smart enough not to post that.


Well I see the veiled insult in that remark, so I guess I'm not as dumb as you think ;-)

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I see studies all the time. Often stories about those studies draw erroneous conclusions--possible, but not demonstrated by the study.

Then people go all ape shit over the study that may or may not have said that in the first place.


It was simply a subject for discussion. Isn't this a discussion forum?

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Until I see methodology, it's a blurb. Reporters who report only the conclusions should not be allowed to report on science.


It is available. Why don't you take a look at it?

Edited to add the journal reference: Kanazawa et al. Why Liberals and Atheists Are More Intelligent. Social Psychology Quarterly, 2010; DOI: 10.1177/0190272510361602

- LA




Jeffff -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 5:46:40 PM)

Well then, carry on!




Jeffff -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:06:39 PM)

The premise doesn't surprise Me at all. Those that question the status quo are often the ones who expand knowledge

Newton was at the very least an agnostic at a time when being a faculty member of Trinity College made it mandatory to Belive in the religious dogma.

Richard Feynman was the same way




StrangerThan -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:13:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Liberals and Atheists Smarter? Intelligent People Have Values Novel in Human Evolutionary History, Study Finds

ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2010) — More intelligent people are statistically significantly more likely to exhibit social values and religious and political preferences that are novel to the human species in evolutionary history.  Specifically, liberalism and atheism, and for men (but not women), preference for sexual exclusivity correlate with higher intelligence, a new study finds.

The study, published in the March 2010 issue of the peer-reviewed scientific journal Social Psychology Quarterly, advances a new theory to explain why people form particular preferences and values.  The theory suggests that more intelligent people are more likely than less intelligent people to adopt evolutionarily novel preferences and values, but intelligence does not correlate with preferences and values that are old enough to have been shaped by evolution over millions of years." "Evolutionarily novel" preferences and values are those that humans are not biologically designed to have and our ancestors probably did not possess.  In contrast, those that our ancestors had for millions of years are "evolutionarily familiar."

"General intelligence, the ability to think and reason, endowed our ancestors with advantages in solving evolutionarily novel problems for which they did not have innate solutions," says Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics and Political Science.  "As a result, more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles."

And it continues.. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100224132655.htm

I think it's an interesting concept. It talks about how intelligence is equated to the possibility of an open or curious mind to explore other possibilities.

You thoughts?
- LA


It smacks of a study created to support an opinion. Then again, a lot of studies come across that way these days. It is however, only the acceptable ones that make it to places like this. Sort of has a racial undertone to it as well.

Think about it.





kittinSol -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:16:01 PM)

It's very plausible. My empirical observations have allowed me to reach the same conclusion as the author of the study.

It makes sense. Conservatives have the lights dimmed out. Let's face it, they're usually not the sharpest tools in the box. And they're socially completely inept [8D] .





cloudboy -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:17:29 PM)

This study found political conservatism to be inclusive of the following traits:

(1) mental rigidity and closed mindedness, including (a) increased dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity, (b) decreased cognitive complexity, (c) decreased openness to experience, (d) uncertainty avoidance, (e) personal needs for order and structure, and (f) need for cognitive closure; (2) lowered self esteem; (3) fear, anger, and aggression; (4) pessimism, disgust, and contempt; (5) loss prevention; (6) fear of death; (7) threat arising from social and economic deprivation; and (8) threat to the stability of the social system.

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In my estimation, the study's conclusions were dead on, and it helps explain why conservatism is so popular -- and why support for it was rallied by 9/11. It helps explain the mindset of social conservatives who vote against abortion, loathe gays, love guns, etc. It also sheds light on why so many conservatives love Sarah Palin and Glen Beck.




Rule -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:18:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
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ORIGINAL: ScienceDaily (Feb. 24, 2010)
more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles."

Your thoughts?

I am a low IQ supergenius. I admire high IQ performance, but I also recognize its limitations: the higher someone's IQ, the less able they are to do what I excel in. The confabulations of these scientists are bogus.

Edited to correct quotes.




KatyLied -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:18:43 PM)

I think that embracing atheism is against the norm, and also mind-expanding in many ways, inviting a need to embrace a different sort of thinking, more rational, scientific, and skeptical.  These are all good things, as is liberalism.  I have found, from personal experience, that liberals tend to be more open-minded on many levels.




Jeffff -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:21:23 PM)

Put on this Jay Cutler jersey and pass me that straw!




domiguy -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:24:08 PM)

After years of research and going through all of the empirical data available, I have reached a very similar conclusion.....Conservatives don't appear to be overly intelligent, the best they could shoot for would be to be deemed "stunted." Let's simply face the facts, all of them are painfully and completely socially inept.





GotSteel -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:26:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan
Sort of has a racial undertone to it as well.

Um, can you walk me through the thought process behind this statement?




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:27:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

more intelligent people are more likely to recognize and understand such novel entities and situations than less intelligent people, and some of these entities and situations are preferences, values, and lifestyles."

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
You thoughts?

I am a low IQ supergenius. I admire high IQ performance, but I also recognize its limitations: the higher someone's IQ, the less able they are to do what I excel in. The confabulations of these scientists are bogus.


And what is it that you excel at?

(BTW - When quoting, please be careful not to quote text from the research as my words.)

- LA




domiguy -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:29:22 PM)

Rule is intent on taking over the world. He is a super genius.

What the fuck is your problem Lady A? It's so obvious.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:29:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel


quote:

ORIGINAL: StrangerThan
Sort of has a racial undertone to it as well.

Um, can you walk me through the thought process behind this statement?


I didn't see the racial undertones in this study neither, and I read through it a few times. In ST's defense, the researcher has been accused of this in his past works. One thing is for sure, I would never, ever accept any conclusions that were racially biased.

- LA




kittinSol -> RE: Liberals & Atheists Smarter? Intelligent Ppl Have Values Novel in Human Evol. History, Study Finds (2/24/2010 6:34:03 PM)

'Conservatism' aims to preserve what is already established and a strong opposition to change. That's why so many conservatives actually feed the forces of reaction with their deep inner fears. And try and fuck up the whole world for the rest of us. The fucking bastards.




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