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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 8:24:44 PM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: BLoved

~FR~

~smile~

bitchy bitchy bitchy ...

lol


You increasingly appear trollish, Bob... where is the love, Buddy? Don't you got love for your fellow Earthlings?

Its all about the love man, love is all you need, right?

~smiles~


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"Where Is The Love?"

What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK
But if you only have love for your own race
Then you only leave space to discriminate
And to discriminate only generates hate
And when you hate then you're bound to get irate, yeah
Madness is what you demonstrate
And that's exactly how anger works and operates
Man, you gotta have love just to set it straight
Take control of your mind and meditate
Let your soul gravitate to the love, y'all, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love
The love, the love

It just ain't the same, always unchanged
New days are strange, is the world insane
If love and peace is so strong
Why are there pieces of love that don't belong
Nations droppin' bombs
Chemical gasses fillin' lungs of little ones
With ongoin' sufferin' as the youth die young
So ask yourself is the lovin' really gone
So I could ask myself really what is goin' wrong
In this world that we livin' in people keep on givin'
in
Makin' wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin' each other, deny thy brother
A war is goin' on but the reason's undercover
The truth is kept secret, it's swept under the rug
If you never know truth then you never know love
Where's the love, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the truth, y'all, come on (I don't know)
Where's the love, y'all

People killin', people dyin'
Children hurt and you hear them cryin'
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love, the love, the love?

I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I'm gettin' older, y'all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin'
Selfishness got us followin' our wrong direction
Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids wanna act like what they see in the cinema
Yo', whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead of spreading love we're spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' under
That's the reason why sometimes I'm feelin' down
There's no wonder why sometimes I'm feelin' under
Gotta keep my faith alive till love is found
Now ask yourself

Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?
Where is the love?

Father, Father, Father help us
Send some guidance from above
'Cause people got me, got me questionin'
Where is the love?

Sing wit me y'all:
One world, one world (We only got)
One world, one world (That's all we got)
One world, one world
And something's wrong wit it (Yeah)
Something's wrong wit it (Yeah)
Something's wrong wit the wo-wo-world, yeah
We only got
(One world, one world)
That's all we got
(One world, one world)


< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 2/28/2010 8:36:33 PM >

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 8:33:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: intenze

raise your hand if that ~smile~ squicks you.
Some smiles are those of the mad, just plain evil.



Hand way HIGH!  On the "A Legend returns ... " thread (now closed by Mods for the protection of the unsuspecting, but sane reader) ..... On that infamous thread, I suggested that the ~smile~ was TOTALLY non-consensual and that he was not to use it with me again.

Yep, you're right..... he responded something like: "Your attempts to control my responses are childish and I will only respond to adults that behave as such in public."

<hey I'm getting pretty good at mimicking his tone, aren't I?  OOPS!  Slipped there, didn't I? LOL!>




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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 8:47:10 PM   
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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 8:50:03 PM   
LanceHughes


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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
Thanks for making my point... women have had choices to love for a very short amount of time... we weren't asked until very recently what our opinion was...


Yes, and you can thank our christian heritage for the problem. Paul placed women under men.

quote:


In fact I think that giving women the freedom to love and to choose sex or love is a great leap forward for our species....it has been a rare choice in the records we have of different cultures around the world.. most of us didn't get a choice at all


Everyone has always had the choice ... regardless of whether their society approved or not.

That doesn't mean every choice is a healthy one.

Have you looked at the divorce rate? The number of children in single-parent families?

We used to have extended families ... then we had nuclear families ... now we have splintered families.

We used to raise children with a parent in the home. Any idea how many kids are in daycare?

We used to play outside, without adult supervision, until the first street-light came on. Childhood obesity wasn't a problem.

How is that working out in the urban jungles?

Not all choices are healthy ones, and in dispensing with love we dispense with the best, most noble parts of who we are as a species.

And we pay the price.



You Canadian-centric FOOL!

Juliana is obviously speaking of ALL times, ALL cultures, and specifically NOT the "christian heritage" you speak of.

For just one example that leaps to mind.... The followers of the Book of Koran (whether Shiite or Sunni) uniformly can, will, and do execute women that do not follow the patriarchal rules laid down for them.  If a woman choose to shrug off just the hood of her burnoose in the market place, she would be stoned to death.

Now, don't you DARE respond with the trite, "She choose to die," because I know that that will be your reponse. ~smile~

You're right, GreedTop..... and now I'm beginning to scare myself.... /shakes off the 'grip' of BLoved upon my thoughts...... looks around for antidote, medication, anything.... ANYthing to help/

I know - - I'll go get a bottle of whiskey and drink it in the marketplace....

/Lance gets bottle and as he is leaving liquor store takes a swig........ AARGH!!! The religious Police see him..... and beat him to......... <help!>. . . . . death/


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 9:39:17 PM   
BLoved


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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes
Hand way HIGH!  On the "A Legend returns ... " thread (now closed by Mods for the protection of the unsuspecting, but sane reader) ..... On that infamous thread, I suggested that the ~smile~ was TOTALLY non-consensual and that he was not to use it with me again.

Yep, you're right..... he responded something like: "Your attempts to control my responses are childish and I will only respond to adults that behave as such in public."

<hey I'm getting pretty good at mimicking his tone, aren't I?  OOPS!  Slipped there, didn't I? LOL!>


"A legend returns ..."

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 9:46:56 PM   
Smutmonger


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Realizing that you are perhaps the very smallest part of it all.

And knowing the joy of life that you have,with all of it's pain, pleasures and rewards..........is a flicker in time.

Humility is empowering.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 9:48:51 PM   
BLoved


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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is the finding of acceptance of creation.

Realizing that you are perhaps the very smallest part of it all.

And knowing the joy of life that you have,with all of it's pain, pleasures and rewards..........is a flicker in time.

Humility is empowering.


Love is valuing the happiness and well-being of another as much as one's self.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 9:51:28 PM   
Smutmonger


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is the finding of acceptance of creation.

Realizing that you are perhaps the very smallest part of it all.

And knowing the joy of life that you have,with all of it's pain, pleasures and rewards..........is a flicker in time.

Humility is empowering.


Love is valuing the happiness and well-being of another as much as one's self.



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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 9:52:24 PM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: BLoved

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is the finding of acceptance of creation.

Realizing that you are perhaps the very smallest part of it all.

And knowing the joy of life that you have,with all of it's pain, pleasures and rewards..........is a flicker in time.

Humility is empowering.


Love is valuing the happiness and well-being of another as much as one's self.







"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves."
-- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7

When you start behaving like the above,  I will start to listen to your pontifications about love


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 9:57:11 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOr1nV9p_XE

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:06:51 PM   
BLoved


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ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is being one with everything, not just someone who feeds your own ego. Your love is selfish.
quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is the finding of acceptance of creation.

Realizing that you are perhaps the very smallest part of it all.

And knowing the joy of life that you have,with all of it's pain, pleasures and rewards..........is a flicker in time.

Humility is empowering.


Love is valuing the happiness and well-being of another as much as one's self.



It is because I am one with everything that I have love to give.

We are all one ... we all have love to give.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:08:55 PM   
WinsomeDefiance


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Status: offline 		Two of my sons were visiting this weekend, so my time online was scarce   I realize that it has taken me long enough to reply that I should probably just let this go.  However, I guess I'll just toss out these thoughts anyway, and hope I don't get fussed at for not letting the thread die.

quote:

I am sure there are those who expect the man to do the courting, and I've no objections to that, providing I can find something of interest in the two or three paragraphs they write about themselves.

(snip)...Probably nothing, but what would be the point? Lots of people are curious as to what I write, and once having read me lots return to read more. Doesn't mean they want me ... just means they like what I write.

I really don't think the lady I'm seeking is going to have any difficulty expressing her interest directly.



You only respond to profiles where you like what people write.  Yet, in regards to writing to people who merely view your profile repeatedly, you say what is the point, because all it proves  is they like what you write.  It seems a bit contradictory to me.  If you notice particular individuals are drawn to what you write, why not be the one to invite them to learn more, in a more personal manner?

Relationships have to start somewhere, and why not with a hello from you? 

The point would be, you don't really KNOW what a person will like or not like - just by reading a few paragraphs (or even more) in their profile.  If you write to enough slaves seeking a Master (even if there isn't much else in their profile,) you will have had opportunities to learn more.  Maybe only a few of those opportunities bear fruit, but its a lot more of an option than you had by not writing a hello in the first place.

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In this world, Win, it is not easy to find a woman who has the courage to be that vulnerable ... to love with her whole heart, and not half-heartedly.  


I know many like this and so could debate that with you, but it would seem counter intuitive

However, if such women are so rare - and you won't accept less, then it would seem in your own best interest to be much more proactive in your search through the stack of haystacks.  You may get lucky and maybe one will stab you in the ass if you just jump all in.

PS - I'm a little uncomfortable with being highlighted in your posts. I appreciate the kind words, but would rather not be cited in comparison to others that you speak negatively toward.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:10:14 PM   
BLoved


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always preserves."
-- 1 Corinthians 13:4-7

When you start behaving like the above,  I will start to listen to your pontifications about love



You want me to behave as the Apostle Paul?

It was Paul who told women to be silent and obedient to their husbands.

It was Paul who told women they should never teach men.

~smile~

I prefer my own vows:


Promises to Live By

I will hope for the best from you.

I will have faith in you.

I will believe you.

I will trust you.

I will respect you.

I will discuss with you.

I will listen to you.

I will teach you.

I will learn from you.

I will cherish you.

I will care for you.

I will heal you.

I will need you.

I will be there for you.

I will stand up for you.

I will understand you.

I will love you ...

... Always ...


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:12:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is being one with everything, not just someone who feeds your own ego. Your love is selfish.
quote:

ORIGINAL: BLoved
quote:

ORIGINAL: Smutmonger
Love is the finding of acceptance of creation.

Realizing that you are perhaps the very smallest part of it all.

And knowing the joy of life that you have,with all of it's pain, pleasures and rewards..........is a flicker in time.

Humility is empowering.


Love is valuing the happiness and well-being of another as much as one's self.



It is because I am one with everything that I have love to give.

We are all one ... we all have love to give.



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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:22:42 PM   
juliaoceania


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You want me to behave as the Apostle Paul?



No.... I want you to stop being a hypocrite


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:34:35 PM   
BLoved


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Two of my sons were visiting this weekend, so my time online was scarce   I realize that it has taken me long enough to reply that I should probably just let this go.  However, I guess I'll just toss out these thoughts anyway, and hope I don't get fussed at for not letting the thread die.




quote:

quote:

I am sure there are those who expect the man to do the courting, and I've no objections to that, providing I can find something of interest in the two or three paragraphs they write about themselves.

(snip)...Probably nothing, but what would be the point? Lots of people are curious as to what I write, and once having read me lots return to read more. Doesn't mean they want me ... just means they like what I write.

I really don't think the lady I'm seeking is going to have any difficulty expressing her interest directly.



You only respond to profiles where you like what people write.  Yet, in regards to writing to people who merely view your profile repeatedly, you say what is the point, because all it proves  is they like what you write.  It seems a bit contradictory to me.  If you notice particular individuals are drawn to what you write, why not be the one to invite them to learn more, in a more personal manner?

Relationships have to start somewhere, and why not with a hello from you? 

The point would be, you don't really KNOW what a person will like or not like - just by reading a few paragraphs (or even more) in their profile.  If you write to enough slaves seeking a Master (even if there isn't much else in their profile,) you will have had opportunities to learn more.  Maybe only a few of those opportunities bear fruit, but its a lot more of an option than you had by not writing a hello in the first place.


If I see something in their profile that sparks my interest, I will write. Unfortunately, there are not many with such profiles.

And most of the people who view my profile are not local. Most are not even Canadian.

Swiss, Germans, British, Australians, New Zealanders, perhaps 15 states of the Union ... almost never a Canadian and even more rare is one from Ontario.

Most of those in Ontario who seek love have limitations regarding age, location, appearances that disqualify me. The few who don't and with whom I spoke had issues/situations which showed they were not the woman I seek.

I'm at the point where all the existing femsub profiles simply clutter up a search for those who are new or who have recently exposed their profiles.

quote:

quote:

In this world, Win, it is not easy to find a woman who has the courage to be that vulnerable ... to love with her whole heart, and not half-heartedly.  


I know many like this and so could debate that with you, but it would seem counter intuitive


I think it safe to say that what a woman might admit to her friend is not necessarily what she would admit to a stranger.

I find a lot of women have crippling trust issues which I am expected to solve for them.

Can't be done without their willing cooperation, and to provide that they need to trust.

Vicious circle that leads nowhere.

If I do not inspire the best in a woman, I am not the right man for her. I have found this standard of measurement extremely useful since I began to apply it.

When a woman starts showing me less than her best, I know ...

quote:


However, if such women are so rare - and you won't accept less, then it would seem in your own best interest to be much more proactive in your search through the stack of haystacks.  You may get lucky and maybe one will stab you in the ass if you just jump all in.


And be yet another male sending out form letters to every femsub profile that comes along? No thanks.

I'm selective, the lady I seek is selective. It may never happen.

But if it doesn't happen, it won't be because I gave up.

I don't think she would give up either.

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PS - I'm a little uncomfortable with being highlighted in your posts. I appreciate the kind words, but would rather not be cited in comparison to others that you speak negatively toward.


You could try being nasty to me ... it is all the rage, you know

I will do my best to abide by your wishes in this matter, tho' I will not promise to never mention you again.

And thank you for coming back.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:41:31 PM   
Smutmonger


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Someone will have things to say to you in the Summerlands.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:46:33 PM   
DarlingSavage


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:48:01 PM   
WinsomeDefiance


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ORIGINAL:  BLoved
You could try being nasty to me ..


Nah, I save the nasty talk for sex. 

Anyway, I still say you should just throw yourself out there and take a chance. 

Here's your homework, should you choose to graduate WinDsWinOne 101:
Write to 20 women with nothing at all whatsoever in their profiles but that they are slaves seeking a Master, and say hello.  Preferably a little more than hello, and a little less than a novelette. 

WinD

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 2/28/2010 10:50:31 PM   
came4U


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Status: offline 		I went to eat pizza, then the end of the wonderbar Olympics *shed tears

then I come back to this.

I have two things to say, I agree with the Tiberus guy a few pages back(forgot the username sorry)

and Bob,

you remind me of one person and his quote:

"A lot of people are tired around here, but I'm not sure they're ready to lie down, stretch out and fall asleep." Jim Jones







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