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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:27:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

Why do so many Canadian female submissives set their standards so low?


If so many Canadian female submissives set their standards low then I'm puzzled how come you're still seeking ?

Is this poll purely "Canadian" ? ... if so ... why so ?

You keep using the term "standard" ... in the same correspondance as "love" ... whilst "standard" is available in a number of definitions, "love" cannot be truly defined, since it is very much in the heart and soul and mind of the individual.

I love my wife and she loves me (ergo ... she's bonkers ), but that is no good reason for presumption that she, or I, will ever agree with your "crusade" (for want of a better phrase).
Do you really disagree with freedom of thought and expression to such an extent that you must attempt to belittle people in an off hand generic manner who are looking for their own ideal in life ?

I found mine, so I'm "lucky" ? ... Not in my view ... more like HONEST mate ... for which I've since been "blessed". I simply don't GET how you think (as it seems) that folks should focus on "love" before they've (for example) even found out how much they can piss each other off and tolerate it (actually ... also a part of "love" ... but there isn't a box for that when you fill in your profile ... roflmcao !), or (for example) even found out the bit they're NOT telling is something they feel they can trust a special someone with.

So ... nothing ventured, nothing gained ... good luck in your search and on your journey.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:30:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kykitten41

DAMMITT~~~~ i forgot to ~smile~

Damn, kykitten, you are getting me hot hot hottttttt!!!!!  Brains, sass, and fire.  It's great to make your acquaintance.


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:32:13 PM   
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She is on her fourth boyfriend since me, and is due to dump him before the summer.

She is very predictable that way. Two boyfriends a year: one for summer, one for winter.

I was the winter boyfriend the year she picked me.


ok, she is predictable. NOW you find that out?


Some people are very good when it comes to disguising their dysfunctions.

I trusted her, she betrayed my trust.

On the other hand, I learned several valuable lessons.

I realized that if I do not inspire the best in a woman, I am not the right man for that woman.

She inspired me to write some of my best work: "Introductions", "Winter Interlude", "The Little Things ..." and several other essays/stories have her in mind.

As I said, I fell very much in love. The qualities she showed me initially were admirable and lovable qualities, and had she remained true to that I'd not be here.

Unfortunately her demons were too much for her. What she later revealed bore no resemblance to the woman I knew.

It was not easy to accept there was nothing I could do, and having watched her go through this cycle with other men since only confirms what I learned about her.

Hindsight is 20-20. No one has a crystal ball.

I trusted my heart, and I learned much.


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:34:15 PM   
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kykitten, the story is slowly unravelling

and it isn't a pretty one

LOL sure as hell isnt cause maybe..she used maryland as location on last profile..what a HOOT~~~..yet she lives in ky..thought she was on plenty o fish or something~~~DAMN!

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:35:08 PM   
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you have a friendly cmail.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:35:24 PM   
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apologizes..to BOB?BLOVED or whoever You are??????????? location is everything after all~~~~~smile

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:37:17 PM   
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Some people are very good when it comes to disguising their dysfunctions.

I trusted her, she betrayed my trust.

On the other hand, I learned several valuable lessons.


sounds like you are 1. naive and 2. your standards are too low.

Because the premise of this thread and OP is that 'Canadian' chicks here have too low of standards.

I never put myself in a position like that be fuked over...you did. So who has the lower standards?

HOW DARE you...seriously. Lump me or any of my Canadian sistas in a crazy loop of your insane definition of 'wannabes' and easy to score.

You, to me, are petty, ridiculous, touched in the skull and .....too slutty for my taste (you get around too much) I take my time to get to know someone (aka high standards) therefore is the reason why 1. no one broke my heart or my pussy and 2. I didn't have to spend a thin dime trying to recoop any losses.

I got two words for u, one starts with F one with Y.

oh ya, and

~~smiles~~

*u are like a lil boy seriously, and now making excuses for your incredibly poor judgement skills and it has become tiresome...you cannot reason with stupid.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:38:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

[standing on the Vaguely Exasperated Step]
*ahem*

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ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

the main reason there are so many wannabes is:

1. It starts with the wannabe Dommes (aka - Pro Dommes)




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2. This is followed by those people who have money to throw away to pretend they are submissive/slaves.




quote:

*next silly question*



I don't know if this question qualifies as silly or not, but:
Who on earth made you King BDSM XIV and granted you the privilege of deciding who is and who is not a wannabe?


[/standing on the Vaguely Exasperated Step]



i call em as i see em

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:39:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

1. It starts with the wannabe Dommes (aka - Pro Dommes)

If you think pros are wannabes, why did you repeatedly throw yourself at one when she lived near you?

~stef




i don't know who you're referring to, but i would never waste my time with a "Pro"

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:40:35 PM   
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You getting out of the trailer at all nowadays?

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:40:58 PM   
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are there bdsm clubs and such that you can go to in your area?


I never bothered to check. BDSM clubs are like swingers clubs: simply there for the sex/kink.

When I was on FL I spoke with people who'd formed a club in this area and determined they are neither mature nor responsible.

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have you tried a matchmaking service?


No. Nor will I. I consider them scams.

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i'm speaking from experience. you can gain a lot from friendships and networking.


My friends I've known for more than a quarter century. They are vanilla, as are their friends (aside from me).

As for networking ... I've no interest. I am not going to recommend anyone I barely know, and doubt the lady I seek would value such a recommendation from someone else.


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:42:38 PM   
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You getting out of the trailer at all nowadays?


i get out all the time

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:42:46 PM   
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When I was on FL I spoke with people who'd formed a club in this area and determined they are neither mature nor responsible.


its always THEM.

The whole world is sh*t Bob, not YOU, its THEM.

what a fantasyland you live in.

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As for networking ... I've no interest. I am not going to recommend anyone I barely know, and doubt the lady I seek would value such a recommendation from someone else.


bring her here. 'We' can give her a few *coughs* recommendations.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:44:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

quote:

ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious

[standing on the Vaguely Exasperated Step]
*ahem*

quote:

ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

the main reason there are so many wannabes is:

1. It starts with the wannabe Dommes (aka - Pro Dommes)




quote:


2. This is followed by those people who have money to throw away to pretend they are submissive/slaves.




quote:

*next silly question*



I don't know if this question qualifies as silly or not, but:
Who on earth made you King BDSM XIV and granted you the privilege of deciding who is and who is not a wannabe?


[/standing on the Vaguely Exasperated Step]



i call em as i see em



Well then it's a bit rich to present your opinions as facts, and the question as 'silly', dontcha think?


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:46:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BLoved

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
Hi Bob,  I had a few thoughts regrding your original post and figured I'd share them.

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Tells me who was viewing my profile (not that it mattered if they didn't write),


I know that when I first signed up to this site, I would view profiles that interested me, but never wrote to anyone.  Mostly, I thought it was disrespectful to innitiate conversations with a dominant.  I've since changed my mind about that, but it was my belief at the time.  It could be the same for others who viewed your profile and never wrote.  There's also the possiblity that an old "men do the courting" mindset that still prevails in the corner of some minds, and so women are not always the first to write, even if they are interested.   Maybe you aren't into courting a submissive, but if you were then I'd think it might be a good approach for you.    Just a few thoughts for you to  ponder.  I just think it might not be a bad idea to just write a hello to someone who viewed your profile.


I am sure there are those who expect the man to do the courting, and I've no objections to that, providing I can find something of interest in the two or three paragraphs they write about themselves.

Usually I don't find anything short of an invitation for sex, so I pass them by.

Of course the odd time when I do see a profile I like, I'll write and invite them to read mine. Sometimes we talk, sometimes nothing.

On the other hand, I frequently get mail from Europe, America, Australia ... women who wish there was a man like me in their area, sometimes women who are attached who wanted to offer me some encouragement to hope. Over and over I hear the same problem: just how few people there are who are mature enough to handle the relationship I describe.

Just can't seem to find anyone like that in the area.

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quote:

let's me re-check all those profiles where the woman wrote nothing in her profile,
 

So few actually read profiles, that I can understand why a submissive might find it a waste of time to have much in her profile.  For example:  All my profile says is that I am not looking to meet anyone and not interested in replying to unsolicited email from anyone.  I still get mail from men telling me how much they LOVED what I wrote in my profile and how amazing I am and how they know what I'm looking for.   What have you lost, but time, if you took a few minutes to write and say hello to a few of those who viewed your prfile?


Probably nothing, but what would be the point? Lots of people are curious as to what I write, and once having read me lots return to read more. Doesn't mean they want me ... just means they like what I write.

I really don't think the lady I'm seeking is going to have any difficulty expressing her interest directly.

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... so many whose primary focus is sex.


I understand that you don't want casual sex.  That's sort of been discussed.  But, you know, sex itself isn't a bad thing.  If you have a sexual disfunction, I can understand why you might not want someone with a high sex drive, but there are other ways of incorporating pleasure that can satisfy a woman with a high sex drive, that need not involve you being hard and functional.  I know this is a touchy subject, and I'm likely to get a scathing response from you, but I promise I am not trying to get any snarky digs or insults in at you.


~smile~

I know, Win.

If I have a 'dysfunction' it is an inability to perform when love is not involved. I just can't. There was a time in my youth when I was less aware that this was not so much an issue, but I've long since grown out of that and understand much better how sex and love work together.

I simply can't do that to someone, and certainly won't do it to me. I respect myself and I hope I respect the other's humanity enough not to try.

For there to be intimacy, there must be love.

quote:

And finally, lest my post become too long winded:

Why must there be so firm a line drawn between sex and true love?  Why can't the two go together? 


~smile~

They do, at least with me.

Every day ... several times a day ... at least that was what my wife and I shared.

Unless one of us was ill, or my wife pregnant, we lived on the edge every single day.

"Cheap thrills", lol ... no thanks. After what I experienced through true love, there is no way I'll waste my time on anything less.

And lest anyone get the wrong idea ... I do not expect true love to arrive in full bloom, and am suspicious whenever anyone has approached me in that way.

I want the joy of falling in love, from being a complete stranger to being her one and only beloved. I enjoy discovering someone, learning all the little things that make her who she is, learning to inspire the best in her ... wouldn't miss it for the world.

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Honestly, I don't see your location as the problem because I've looked at your pictures and it seems like a place that has the potential for being a beatiful home filled with love.   Its sad that you could have so much to offer someone, and yet you can't seem to get past the negativity you see everywhere you look. 


And yet women have fallen in love with me, and I them.

They are not a dime a dozen. They are not common. I compare them to finding a needle in a stack of haystacks, they are so rare.

And yet it is not their intelligence that sets them apart, nor age, nor looks ... it is their heart.

Their need to explore love is so great, they just need the right man to make it safe to love that much.

A man whose love matches their own.

In this world, Win, it is not easy to find a woman who has the courage to be that vulnerable ... to love with her whole heart, and not half-heartedly.

That is who I seek, and I won't settle for less.

Nor should anyone else.

I KNEW it!!!!  I'd seen people refer to you as Bob several times but until I saw this post, I thought there was a possibility they were calling you that simply because you come across sooooooooooo much like that blustering blowhard...

So...you are back to tell us all how much better your friends and family are than the people on here...yet you keep returning here....(seems to me that all one need do so that he can be surrounded by all those good people and not have to deal with us "lessers" is stay away)

you are back to tell the submissives on here how shallow and immature they are because they can have sex and BDSM play with someone who may be a casual partner or may be someone they know well but will never be in love with...because the greatest sex and BDSM and D/s only comes with love, right?  (while I am a firm believer in the idea that love tends to make the sex and D/s and BDSM better, I also understand that it is an enhancing, luxorious complement to these things...it is not necessary for them...or the good thoughts that sometimes come after enjoyment of them...to happen)

you are back to tell the rest of us that we are bullies the minute we begin disagreeing with your "one true and only way"-ism that you espouse.  you have toned down the, what I am sure you hope for is discreet, trolling by extolling the virtues of what you thiink and feel but it is still there (Hey Bob...why, if what you offer is SO fantastic, do you still not have a partner?)

This is in your posts on here:  When your bdsm paradigm makes love essential, expect some flack from those for whom love is anathema.
Let's look at that statement from a broader perspective, shall we?  When your bdsm paradigm makes love necessary, expect flack from those who respect love and do not consider it anathema but don't feel that it must be present in each and every D/s and/or BDSM and/or sexual interaction and who DON'T appreciate being considered immature and/or incapable of understanding love and its wondrous qualities.


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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:49:43 PM   
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now what if I asked a Q?

(i know i know, i just did)

Whyyyy is it that ONTARIO guys are sooooo easy and quick to make bad decisions then they are back with a new name to troll for a new piece of meat?

Is that not making a blanket statement of fact BOB? Is that not RUDE of me to assume?

because YOU have shown those intentions to me, therefore it must be true of most/all Canadian men, right?

LOL how ridiculous.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:50:42 PM   
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Some people are very good when it comes to disguising their dysfunctions.
I trusted her, she betrayed my trust.

On the other hand, I learned several valuable lessons.


sounds like you are 1. naive and 2. your standards are too low.


~smile~

C4U, it really doesn't matter what I say as you will find a way to make it sound bad.

Without knowing her you presume to tell me whether I should or should not have seen through her disguise.

Without knowing me you presume to tell me whether trusting my heart is a good or bad thing.

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Because the premise of this thread and OP is that 'Canadian' chicks here have too low of standards.

I never put myself in a position like that be fuked over...you did. So who has the lower standards?


You will never find true love wearing a suit of armour.

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You, to me, are petty, ridiculous, touched in the skull and .....too slutty for my taste (you get around too much)

I got two words for u, one starts with F one with Y.

oh ya, and

~~smiles~~

*u are like a lil boy seriously, and now making excuses for your incredibly poor judgement skills and it has become tiresome...you cannot reason with stupid.


~smile~

Feel better?

Honestly, do you really take yourself so seriously as to believe that made a difference to anyone?

Do you think anyone is unaware of your opinion of me that you feel the need to repeat it over and over?

Are you that insecure that anyone might take me seriously you feel a compulsive need to spout such nonsense over and over to be sure no one doubts your immaturity and lack of self-discipline?

And you expect people to listen?



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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:54:37 PM   
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You will never find true love wearing a suit of armour.


laffs

oh I get it now

because I DON'T sleep around, there must be some psychological reason for that?

if I DID sleep around, you would say AHA, see I told you?

gimme a break, you are sooo illogical and I am soooo here with my own roof and not whining that I sleep alone at night. What you see as armour, I see as making wise commonsensical decisions to NOT meet and fuck whenever I think someone 'might' be up to my standards.

Don't mirror your psychological problems on another, my boy.

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Without knowing her you presume to tell me whether I should or should not have seen through her disguise.

Without knowing me you presume to tell me whether trusting my heart is a good or bad thing.


So, others that you proclaim as having too low of standards (these/us Canadian dames) perhaps fell for the wrong guy too..BUT if it happens to YOU, it is ok? Maybe these chicks 'fell' for a guy too? Maybe THEY thought they also had found love? What is it your business ..and what makes it your business to lay a foundation of accusations upon others on doing things that you, yourself have claimed you have done?

Projecting, is what it is called. Projecting your guilt and shame of your bad decisions upon unknowing, innocent Canadian gals. Psych 101 Bob...you just need to stop blaming OTHERS for your problems.

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 12:55:54 PM   
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Damn, kykitten, you are getting me hot hot hottttttt!!!!! Brains, sass, and fire. It's great to make your acquaintance.



you forgot to add cCHEAP THRILL SEEKER to that ~~~~smiles

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RE: No wonder there are so many wannabes ... - 3/1/2010 1:11:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: came4U
Psych 101 Bob...


And you really believe the lady I seek will be taking you seriously ...

~smile~

You have no credibility.

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