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Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British & Fr... - 3/1/2010 3:12:40 AM   
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Imagine that!
So how is that 2 party dictatorship working out for you all?

Nearly all US Presidents are descendant from the British and French Royal Families

The books Burke's Peerage & Baronetage and Burke's Landed Gentry have, for 175 years, recorded the genealogies of the UK and Ireland's titled and landed families. Often referred to as 'the aristocracy bible', these are without comparison as a genealogical reference to the influential figures and families of Great Britain and Ireland.

Burke's publishing director, Harold Brooks-Baker says Bush's royal connections are startling. "[Bush] is closely related to every European Monarch both on and off the throne," says Brooks-Baker. Some of the governor's royal kin include Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, the Queen Mother, Duchess Sarah "Fergy" Ferguson and even the late Princess Diana. His most prominent ancestor may be England's King Charles II, who shared the governor's vision of a strong military. Going back nearly 1000 years, Brooks-Baker points out both the Bush and Pierce families [Barbara Bush's maiden name is Pierce] were high society. "Not one member of his family was working class, middle class, or even middle, middle class," he notes.

Gore's family members weren't exactly peasants. The vice president's family tree includes Charlemagne and three Holy Roman emperors. And a good fight wouldn't frighten the vice president's most famous ancestor, England's Edward I - best known today as the king who defeated, then executed Braveheart. Gore is running a bit behind Bush in the European royal count, his blood-line runs close to some American home-grown nobility, including Thomas Jefferson.

As for John Kerry, "the 60-year-old can trace his roots back to the first Massachusetts governor, John Winthrop, to every great family in Boston and to a host of royals in Europe. Kerry can almost certainly be traced back to King James I and to the bloodlines straight through the Windsor and Hanover families," Brooks-Baker said. "But both candidates have a remarkable number of royal connections and both are related to Queen Elizabeth."

What about Bill Cinton ? In an Associated Press article published in The Daily Oklahoman, October 28, 1996, Harold Brooks-Baker said: "Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe, but took his stepfather's name as a teenager. Clinton's ancestry can be traced back, on his mother's side, to King Henry III who ruled England from 1227 to 1272. He is descended from King Robert I of France.

Furthermore, he is related to every Scottish monarch to the current British royal family. Clinton's royal roots include several medieval monarchs and Simon de Montford, a statesman and soldier under King Henry III. Through de Montford, Clinton is related to every ancient aristocratic family in Britain today."

In the same article, the journalist revealed that "Bill Clinton's family goes back to William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, making him related to Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. His kinship to Ford makes him 'near kin' to Richard Nixon and George Bush."

Small world, isn't it? And this seems to be a jealous guarded secret as over the past years, the President had all records of his family history, school records, medical history, etc. sealed.If you think all these are mere coïncidence see the charts below. And if you think it's just a probability game, then check your own genealogy and those of all the people you know. Do you have such great chance to be even far cousin with Bush, Nixon, Kerry, Clinton ?

Still think that the Democratic Revolution has changed the Aristocratic Governments ? Now think twice :

So now days we just put in brits straight up and forget any formalities!

So how IS that 2 party dictatorship working out for you all?  Do you really need to wonder why shit never changes?






ITS A REALLY small WORLD!


the books are a bargin price on ebay! LOL

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 3:28:49 AM   
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scraping the barrel now, NutBoy - you are desperate to prove your insane views have some semblance of validity

e.g. we can all go straight to Charlemagne - does that make it worse for you?

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2009/10/are-you-descedant-of-charlemagne.html


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 3:32:56 AM   
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scraping the barrel now, NutBoy - you are desperate to prove your insane views have some semblance of validity

e.g. we can all go straight to Charlemagne - does that make it worse for you?

http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2009/10/are-you-descedant-of-charlemagne.html



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thank you very much for your contribution of high quality reference material.  retard






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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 3:55:21 AM   
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Ok.....and?

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 3:55:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Imagine that!
So how is that 2 party dictatorship working out for you all?

Nearly all US Presidents are descendant from the British and French Royal Families

The books Burke's Peerage & Baronetage and Burke's Landed Gentry have, for 175 years, recorded the genealogies of the UK and Ireland's titled and landed families. Often referred to as 'the aristocracy bible', these are without comparison as a genealogical reference to the influential figures and families of Great Britain and Ireland.

Burke's publishing director, Harold Brooks-Baker says Bush's royal connections are startling. "[Bush] is closely related to every European Monarch both on and off the throne," says Brooks-Baker. Some of the governor's royal kin include Britain's Queen Elizabeth II, the Queen Mother, Duchess Sarah "Fergy" Ferguson and even the late Princess Diana. His most prominent ancestor may be England's King Charles II, who shared the governor's vision of a strong military. Going back nearly 1000 years, Brooks-Baker points out both the Bush and Pierce families [Barbara Bush's maiden name is Pierce] were high society. "Not one member of his family was working class, middle class, or even middle, middle class," he notes.

Gore's family members weren't exactly peasants. The vice president's family tree includes Charlemagne and three Holy Roman emperors. And a good fight wouldn't frighten the vice president's most famous ancestor, England's Edward I - best known today as the king who defeated, then executed Braveheart. Gore is running a bit behind Bush in the European royal count, his blood-line runs close to some American home-grown nobility, including Thomas Jefferson.

As for John Kerry, "the 60-year-old can trace his roots back to the first Massachusetts governor, John Winthrop, to every great family in Boston and to a host of royals in Europe. Kerry can almost certainly be traced back to King James I and to the bloodlines straight through the Windsor and Hanover families," Brooks-Baker said. "But both candidates have a remarkable number of royal connections and both are related to Queen Elizabeth."

What about Bill Cinton ? In an Associated Press article published in The Daily Oklahoman, October 28, 1996, Harold Brooks-Baker said: "Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe, but took his stepfather's name as a teenager. Clinton's ancestry can be traced back, on his mother's side, to King Henry III who ruled England from 1227 to 1272. He is descended from King Robert I of France.

Furthermore, he is related to every Scottish monarch to the current British royal family. Clinton's royal roots include several medieval monarchs and Simon de Montford, a statesman and soldier under King Henry III. Through de Montford, Clinton is related to every ancient aristocratic family in Britain today."

In the same article, the journalist revealed that "Bill Clinton's family goes back to William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, making him related to Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. His kinship to Ford makes him 'near kin' to Richard Nixon and George Bush."

Small world, isn't it? And this seems to be a jealous guarded secret as over the past years, the President had all records of his family history, school records, medical history, etc. sealed.If you think all these are mere coïncidence see the charts below. And if you think it's just a probability game, then check your own genealogy and those of all the people you know. Do you have such great chance to be even far cousin with Bush, Nixon, Kerry, Clinton ?

Still think that the Democratic Revolution has changed the Aristocratic Governments ? Now think twice :

So now days we just put in brits straight up and forget any formalities!

So how IS that 2 party dictatorship working out for you all?  Do you really need to wonder why shit never changes?






ITS A REALLY small WORLD!


the books are a bargin price on ebay! LOL

http://cgi.ebay.com/Burkes-Peerage-Baronetage-and-Knightage-107th-Edition_W0QQitemZ220559095174QQcategoryZ29223QQcmdZViewItem



Of course, have you only just got it?

the Americas were discovered , conquered and inhabited because of the landless lords, they did it to the Irish,Australia and New Zealand, what is the USA is just more land to take and rule over and all the minions either by promises of a better future emigrated or were transported based on pathetic so called crimes to serve those now landed lords. We got the buggers from France, then Normandy and they went on in the future. I suppose it could be said we are ruled now by the same shit of the past and the minions are still minions, largely landless serfs but in a modern sense of the word.

And they have allowed the controlled creation of  a belief that rule is democratic, political parties and such and whilst the minions are squabbling over their political allegiances, it keeps the minion's eyes off who exactly is pulling the strings.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:14:56 AM   
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I am more closely related to the Blood Lines of Europe than many of the presidents, should I run?

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:20:42 AM   
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I'd vote for ya ;)

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:22:35 AM   
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So how is that 2 party dictatorship working out for you all?




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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:37:42 AM   
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Prolem is RO - as I believe someone else pointed out, we are all related in one way or another if you can delve back far enough. Indeed, my claim to the throne of England is based on my descent from the Godwinson family (King Harold I).

The only problem being there are around 5 million others here with the same claim, not to mention at least the same number around the world. Its really not relevant though unless its within the last couple of centuries at the most, and absolutely direct through the paternal line and satisifes male primogeniture and of course its provable - thats how we know (supposedly) who is royalty, who aristocracy and who "other".

That I'm a descendant of Harold's brother doesnt indicate anything other than an interesting statistical realtionship. I'm also related to Peter The Great, Adolf Hitler, Nelson Mandela and Buddha (the enlightened one formerly known as Prince Gautama).

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:39:48 AM   
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And I want you all to remember----ALL ROYALTY comes from the Vikings.

So, we are going to change the name of Sons of Norway, to sons a bitches, raise the initiation fee and let all you commoners join.

Uff Da.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:44:16 AM   
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I'd vote for ya ;)


Awwww thanks....


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:45:32 AM   
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Indeed, my claim to the throne of England is based on my descent from the Godwinson family (King Harold I).


Well you beat my run for the American presidency...

You will have to come over and run next election cycle!

I am related through my Scottish side... the Bruce line.


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 7:48:16 AM   
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Still think that the Democratic Revolution has changed the Aristocratic Governments ?

Yes.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 8:25:25 AM   
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Shouldnt let it bother you Julia - its 4/1 on that youre descended from the Godwinson clan too. Which would make us related. The only remaining questions then being, which of us is secretly pulling the strings in the NWO and do you want to come for the traditional family Christmas dinner this year?

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 8:42:54 AM   
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well you all need to go to the library and get the aforementioned book and look yourself up.  If you are not in there since the purpose of the book was to trace the baronege then you cannot make claim to the throne ot any derivative thereof.

It would be interesting to see if anyone was in there but I am betting that since there is only 120,000 names in there that no one here is in the book.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 8:44:42 AM   
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Indeed, my claim to the throne of England is based on my descent from the Godwinson family (King Harold I).


Well you beat my run for the American presidency...

You will have to come over and run next election cycle!

I am related through my Scottish side... the Bruce line.


We're cousins!

The fact is that if you dig back far enough everyone is related to everyone else. That anyone ever finds these sorts of things important is because they simply never grasp how many people we're talking about.

For instance how many great great great great great great great great grandparents do we each have? And that's only enough generations to get most people's family tree back to the mid 18th century.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 8:46:15 AM   
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so you are both in the book?


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 8:57:32 AM   
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well you all need to go to the library and get the aforementioned book and look yourself up.  If you are not in there since the purpose of the book was to trace the baronege then you cannot make claim to the throne ot any derivative thereof.

It would be interesting to see if anyone was in there but I am betting that since there is only 120,000 names in there that no one here is in the book.

toodles


Burke's Peerage has funny rules about that stuff. My direct male ancestor was transported after Culloden in 1746 and was the eldest son of a Scottish clan chief. So the chiefdom and the associated fuedal title (baron in this case) went to the second son and descends through his line. But my distant cousin is certainly listed in Burkes (under the clan chief's and the fuedal title as well).

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 9:03:29 AM   
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Its as "well-researched" as the shite you put up - and posted for that bery reason!

You are 54 and you are on here all day - all hours of the day - I wonder what IS your job precisely?

Lemme guess... yup, it all fits!

Weren't you supposed to be absent, in exciting courtroom action for the forseeable? Or did you just cop a plea?
You didn't get told off for selling investors shares in your Fusion Revolution I hope!

Sad, delusional, basement-dwelling Koolaider. Get a job. Oh and a life. Maybe even some friends - who aren't online only!


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/1/2010 9:06:24 AM   
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We have a joke in the family that the family loved to keep the presidency in the family. I grew up hearing... Remember where you come from and never embarrass the family. We took it seriously because they were so serious about it, but later in life I started thinking how embarrassing the family turned out to be! My grandfather paid to have a set of hardcover books made that listed all the family members. I don't know how far back these books covered as we were never allowed to touch the books. It was later on when I was asked to be a spokesperson for an agency that I did my own research. I was shocked at who all we were related to and then started a policy with my children to just not tell! lol It wasn't something I viewed as a good thing. The names were big and yet the crimes were in my opinion, just as big.

I find it an interesting topic but not one that is in any way, special or makes anyone special. What the fuck does blue blood mean, currently? Many of the past connections to present day persons is a name only thing and there wasn't much left of the big named people. Just as in any family, some got it and some didn't. I doubt we can put together some world control or specialty that went through family lines as few really care and it really doesn't matter. I'm sure at some point there is a caveman who could claim he fathered all the world leaders... but what does it really matter? lol




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