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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:11:30 PM   
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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:21:09 PM   
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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:32:02 PM   
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ah he is still licking his wounds over the defeat and showcasing of his and most others false belief that the US won the revolutionary war.



Wait a minute... what??

Jesus, don't you have another commitment hearing coming up soon?


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:37:39 PM   
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Wait a minute....I've "gone down in flames"?....bullshit,I have gone down in elevators,parks,offices and abandoned buildings....but never,I repeat never have I gone down in flames.....shit I burn just like the next guy...and I have a full head of hair to boot,that shit smells when it burns!

Me either - I've set stuff on fire before but never myself. Just burned a few hairs on a soldering iron from time to time (phew!).



ah he is still licking his wounds over the defeat and showcasing of his and most others false belief that the US won the revolutionary war.

The really funny part about that is when we passed an amendment that no brits could hold a government office they came back in 1812 and burned down the fucking white house, thats how totally terrified of great and mighty US they were!

LMAO







Licking my wounds...why you little furry idiot the day you inflict any wounds on me in any debate grounded in reality ...is the day I slit my own throat!...now hurry along your new acolyte ,pahunky,is getting himself in trouble over a Lindbergh thread.....move along furry one he needs your help(this should be worth a few laughs).


You know you should have more pride in yourself than to be a front man laughing stock of the CM boards like a few others around here.  YOu might want to see a doc or at least try some over the counter meds because that level of displacement and denial can really result in serious detachment. (if not there already)  I mean we laugh at you but its in a pity kind of way and that takes some of the fun out of it.

oh and BTW the jury is still waiting for you to show any as in ANY evidence what so ever that the colonists WON the war, you know where England has EVER lost its sovereignty to the US.

You know thats what happens when a WAR IS WON!  get it?  yet?

I bet you dont!


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ah he is still licking his wounds over the defeat and showcasing of his and most others false belief that the US won the revolutionary war.


Wait a minute... what??

Jesus, don't you have another commitment hearing coming up soon?




Oh yeh and the same goes to you!  Its aboard wide challenge so I will repeat it for you.

the jury is still waiting for you to show any as in ANY evidence what so ever that the colonists WON the war, you know where England has EVER lost its sovereignty to the US.

You know thats what happens when a WAR IS WON!  get it?  yet?


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:38:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		If we didnt win the revolutionary war, then why did Lord Cornwallis surrender at Yorktown and with the defeat of Yorktown new British ministers came to power in 1782 and begin peace talks with the new United States?

It was because the simple fact we were winning and parliament was worried that other parts of the empire would follow suit.

Realone, a country winning a war does not relinquish territory to a loser!

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:44:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		No,no no,this fucking loony tunes fur ball has just moved the goal-posts...and ,in his warped mind assumes no one will notice?
Now winning the war means England surrenders Her sovereignty to us...the former colonists who,according to every (apparently mistaken) history book were fighting a war of Independence.
Tell me oh flea bitten one ,when you say "we laugh at you"...who exactley are you referring to.....are are you,termy and pahunk all commited to the same facility?

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:48:32 PM   
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If we didnt win the revolutionary war, then why did Lord Cornwallis surrender at Yorktown and with the defeat of Yorktown new British ministers came to power in 1782 and begin peace talks with the new United States?

It was because the simple fact we were winning and parliament was worried that other parts of the empire would follow suit.

Realone, a country winning a war does not relinquish territory to a loser!



thats like duking it out with your next door neighbor and claiming winning the war because he was the first to the peace table.

Do you have any idea what so ever how many ways the word surrender can be applied in law?

I would suggest since the only thing the king surrendered was the government as you can plainly see by the treaty, that corwalis surrendered enforcement of the same.




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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:51:38 PM   
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if nothing else this post will help me get a fith paddle!!!!!!

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:53:32 PM   
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No,no no,this fucking loony tunes fur ball has just moved the goal-posts...and ,in his warped mind assumes no one will notice?
Now winning the war means England surrenders Her sovereignty to us...the former colonists who,according to every (apparently mistaken) history book were fighting a war of Independence.
Tell me oh flea bitten one ,when you say "we laugh at you"...who exactley are you referring to.....are are you,termy and pahunk all commited to the same facility?


what the hell do you think winning the war is kiddo?   Its when one country takes over another.  YOu know its really not that complicated, germany loses war and loses sovereignty, japan loses war and loses sovereignty.  

This is like high school basics.   Did you ever have a civic class in high school?


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 1:56:25 PM   
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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:01:08 PM   
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If we didnt win the revolutionary war, then why did Lord Cornwallis surrender at Yorktown and with the defeat of Yorktown new British ministers came to power in 1782 and begin peace talks with the new United States?

It was because the simple fact we were winning and parliament was worried that other parts of the empire would follow suit.

Realone, a country winning a war does not relinquish territory to a loser!



thats like duking it out with your next door neighbor and claiming winning the war because he was the first to the peace table.

Do you have any idea what so ever how many ways the word surrender can be applied in law?

I would suggest since the only thing the king surrendered was the government as you can plainly see by the treaty, that corwalis surrendered enforcement of the same.






Look, Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown BEFORE the treaty was even negotiated you bloody idiot. You are the biggest joke on the boards for your blatantly stupid statements, why dont you just go away and bug someone else.

Read the bloody treaty you posted, the King relinquished all territory described in the treaty. How anyone can be so stupid as to not be able to comprehend the document is unreal.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:06:07 PM   
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No,no no,this fucking loony tunes fur ball has just moved the goal-posts...and ,in his warped mind assumes no one will notice?
Now winning the war means England surrenders Her sovereignty to us...the former colonists who,according to every (apparently mistaken) history book were fighting a war of Independence.
Tell me oh flea bitten one ,when you say "we laugh at you"...who exactley are you referring to.....are are you,termy and pahunk all commited to the same facility?


what the hell do you think winning the war is kiddo?   Its when one country takes over another.  YOu know its really not that complicated, germany loses war and loses sovereignty, japan loses war and loses sovereignty.  

This is like high school basics.   Did you ever have a civic class in high school?



So the Vietnamese have somehow taken over the United States? Huh. Amazing I never noticed that. I suppose i was too distracted by the spectacle of Afghanistan taking over the Soviet Union.

Oh, wait....


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:12:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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If we didnt win the revolutionary war, then why did Lord Cornwallis surrender at Yorktown and with the defeat of Yorktown new British ministers came to power in 1782 and begin peace talks with the new United States?

It was because the simple fact we were winning and parliament was worried that other parts of the empire would follow suit.

Realone, a country winning a war does not relinquish territory to a loser!



thats like duking it out with your next door neighbor and claiming winning the war because he was the first to the peace table.

Do you have any idea what so ever how many ways the word surrender can be applied in law?

I would suggest since the only thing the king surrendered was the government as you can plainly see by the treaty, that corwalis surrendered enforcement of the same.






Look, Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown BEFORE the treaty was even negotiated you bloody idiot. You are the biggest joke on the boards for your blatantly stupid statements, why dont you just go away and bug someone else.

Read the bloody treaty you posted, the King relinquished all territory described in the treaty. How anyone can be so stupid as to not be able to comprehend the document is unreal.



This is gonna be a great lesson to you all on how government creates a delusion for you.

Yes they use the word territory I agree.  However once again there is no reference to relinguishing possession of the ground.

you will notice in that same treaty they also talk about possession of the ground with respect to I think the brits in america.  This created a distinction between the use of the word territory with respect to jurisdiction or territory with respect to ground.

I know they went into great length to define boundaries yada yada but there is nothing what so ever where the king gave up the ground or the mineral rights.

If you can show me anything what so ever that puts the words used in a context of ground or minerals I will back off my position.   No one to date has been able to unequivocally make the case.  but never know maybe you can, I know many including myself have not been able to do so in such a manner that I could see it holding up in court.


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:12:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Loss of sovereignty for the losing side in a war is not a situation automatically arising, still less is it the normal course of events in the scope of European wars - a category which the American WoI falls into. The more normal course of events is that the losing side cedes some territory, pays a large sum in gold and both sides go back to peace with the losers hoping for better luck next time.

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:15:23 PM   
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Either way,  it seems fair to Me.


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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:20:12 PM   
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No,no no,this fucking loony tunes fur ball has just moved the goal-posts...and ,in his warped mind assumes no one will notice?
Now winning the war means England surrenders Her sovereignty to us...the former colonists who,according to every (apparently mistaken) history book were fighting a war of Independence.
Tell me oh flea bitten one ,when you say "we laugh at you"...who exactley are you referring to.....are are you,termy and pahunk all commited to the same facility?


what the hell do you think winning the war is kiddo?   Its when one country takes over another.  YOu know its really not that complicated, germany loses war and loses sovereignty, japan loses war and loses sovereignty.  

This is like high school basics.   Did you ever have a civic class in high school?



So the Vietnamese have somehow taken over the United States? Huh. Amazing I never noticed that. I suppose i was too distracted by the spectacle of Afghanistan taking over the Soviet Union.

Oh, wait....



you like most people need to realize that a turn on me's have really fucked up the language.


The war as you put it, as in the revolutionary war was fought over taxation without representation.

So the king gave us representation for the taxation.

So yeh you could "in that manner of speaking" say we won the war.

Meaning we won the war on TAXATION.

It does not mean the king gave us ANYTHING else or that we WON ANYTHING ELSE!

Hows that representative taxation working out for you btw?

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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:22:09 PM   
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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:25:21 PM   
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Loss of sovereignty for the losing side in a war is not a situation automatically arising, still less is it the normal course of events in the scope of European wars - a category which the American WoI falls into. The more normal course of events is that the losing side cedes some territory, pays a large sum in gold and both sides go back to peace with the losers hoping for better luck next time.

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yeh its one country exercizing a claim of right or contract whatever over another country.  America was georges business adventure and under anglosax law you can either take land by contract or conquest and there is no in between.......hence since the king did not cede the land it is still his because he took it from the indiand by conquest.

Just like if we feel the land should be ours then either england would need to cede it in its entirety (equitable,  legal and trust) or america would need to go after england by conquest to get it.

Either way works.


Which gets us into corporations wherein all the represetative states which are corporations to the fed who entered into a perpetual unity under contract with england.

The 14th amendment made everyone defacto citizens of the federal corporation and hence to go in that direction when as a member of the corporation is insurrection.

Now people who are not memebers of the corporation in the us could do that as sovereigns and that would be an act of war agains the corporat body politic.

Its a great layout and I have to give them credit they were some very smart cookies.






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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:31:43 PM   
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RE: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant of British ... - 3/2/2010 2:33:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Except anglosaxon laws mean nothing to anyone, then or now, as concerns england or america,
nor does the magna carta, nor does the code of hammurabi nor the ten commandments, nor book of the dead.

And George the 3rd was born and educated as an englishman, no althing was considered. So that shoots Viking law in the ass as well.

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