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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 5:32:44 PM   
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I think people are to easily offended these days and this is a prime example IMO. I have done a similiar game at a private party that I hosted but it included both dominant and submissive traits. It wasn't meant as disrespectful. There was no prior warning to my guests. Those that wanted to participate did and I wasn't offended if they didn't. Everyone did and it was hilarious. I have been to parties that had themes or group games that were hosted by others, making a scene that you didn't like it is disrespectful to me. Either quitely opt out or leave don't make a federal case over it (especially YEARS later). If you were truly offended by it take it up with the host privately at a later time.



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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 5:34:15 PM   
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Your profile states: "Plus I have trouble thinking outside of black and white; I'm told this is off putting to many, and most likely holds me back. I'm working on it though."

Your post seems to comport with your profile. Sounds like you lost a chance to have some fun and gain some experience -- valuable stuff at age 25.


You said the experience was ruined, but imagine if you had the flexibility to role play and go along with the game -- you might have had a positive experience.


It is easier  for some to blame others for having a negative experience than it is to make the best out of whatever we are experiencing in the moment... and to gain something out what seems to be unpleasant at the time. If one is focused on the negative they are going to miss that silver lining...

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 6:08:15 PM   
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It was a TEST... a test of your "dominance" to REFUSE to play along, and you FAILED.  Had you shown your Toppy powers, you'd have been part of the Twoo-Domly-Dom group who stuck around and were rewarded with 20 uber-hawt slaves that were stored in the other room and crawled-in shortly after you left to suck-service the penis-parade before them.  Joo phucked-up, mang!!! 



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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 6:11:40 PM   
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Sounds like a harmless party game, to me. If all the roles in the hat were submissive, then by leaving you probably missed a lot of fun, as well as the ensuing fun when (presumably) the next hat trick came, and everybody had dominant roles.

I find it incredible that you were offended, and found this party game disrepectful. The intent was clearly to have a good time. If it was a misguided or failed attempt, your reaction was still excessive. Its not like they set out to disrespect you. It was a PARTY. It was supposed to be fun.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 6:15:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bodhisatva

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania




I have a question... if they had put roles that dominants were usually associated with in that same hat, would you feel "disrespected"? I noticed you posted this question in the masters section, do you feel that it is inherently disrespectful to dominants to have them assume a submissive stance, even in jest for fun and games?

BTW, I always take responsibility for whether or not my evening is ruined, I can always choose how I feel about something that happens, and whether or not I will allow an occurrence to spoil my good time... just me, etc



Well, I'm not sure how requiring people to act contrary to their natural orientation qualifies as 'fun' or simply in jest, particularly when such a event was a surprise. Well, maybe from the people doing the forcing I guess I could see that but not for the others.
Still, I seriously envy your emotional control. I didn't realize there were people who could simply choose how to feel about an event. Can you apply that ability to any situation or scenario? If you were shown pictures of genocide or chernobyl could you will yourself to feel good about them?


Wow, now aren't you just the little drama queen?  I'm impressed!

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:17:23 PM   
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You could have just smiled, said thanks but  no thanks and watched as everyone else had some fun. Was there a rule that said you had to do it or you had to leave???


Yes, if not, it would not have mattered.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:18:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

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ORIGINAL: Bodhisatva

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania




I have a question... if they had put roles that dominants were usually associated with in that same hat, would you feel "disrespected"? I noticed you posted this question in the masters section, do you feel that it is inherently disrespectful to dominants to have them assume a submissive stance, even in jest for fun and games?

BTW, I always take responsibility for whether or not my evening is ruined, I can always choose how I feel about something that happens, and whether or not I will allow an occurrence to spoil my good time... just me, etc



Well, I'm not sure how requiring people to act contrary to their natural orientation qualifies as 'fun' or simply in jest, particularly when such a event was a surprise. Well, maybe from the people doing the forcing I guess I could see that but not for the others.
Still, I seriously envy your emotional control. I didn't realize there were people who could simply choose how to feel about an event. Can you apply that ability to any situation or scenario? If you were shown pictures of genocide or chernobyl could you will yourself to feel good about them?


Wow, now aren't you just the little drama queen?  I'm impressed!


Wow, now aren't you just a little twit? I'm unimpressed!

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:20:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SweetNika

I think people are to easily offended these days and this is a prime example IMO. I have done a similiar game at a private party that I hosted but it included both dominant and submissive traits. It wasn't meant as disrespectful. There was no prior warning to my guests. Those that wanted to participate did and I wasn't offended if they didn't. Everyone did and it was hilarious. I have been to parties that had themes or group games that were hosted by others, making a scene that you didn't like it is disrespectful to me. Either quitely opt out or leave don't make a federal case over it (especially YEARS later). If you were truly offended by it take it up with the host privately at a later time.




I take it you haven't been following the thread at all.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:26:04 PM   
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No, I don't think it was disrespectful.

Something doesn't add up to me. So they basically said, if you don't draw a "submissive role" out of this hat and then stick to it all night (ie, not talking all night) then get out?  No, that is not remotely normal from what I've heard.

Your attitude also seems weird though.  What's the big deal about not talking (which, btw, isn't really a particularly "submissive" action)?  Or whatever you drew?  Why the hostility years later?  Is the problem that you didn't think Dominant types should be expected to play at being submissive for a time?

And I think you missed some really good insight from juliaoceana.  Yes, we can choose how to respond to things.  Chernobyl is a great example.  I can choose to be depressed that it happened, or I can choose to move forward in a positive way and do everything *I* can to keep it from happening again.  No one ruins my night.  I decide how to respond to events.  Had you chosen a different response to this event, your night might not have been ruined.


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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:36:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bodhisatva

I went to a play party a few years ago. It was announced only after it had began that all in attendance were expected to pick a role from a hat, all of them having a submissive angle to them, such as not being able to talk without permission. I naturally left, more than a little annoyed that my evening had been waisted. I thought this was very disrespectful and a stipulation like that should have been made when the invites to the party were sent out, but is that just par for the course? Do you thiink this that kind of thing's just to be expected in this lifestyle?


Love your name.  Though I'd think it would be a lot to live up to

From my experience, what you describe in your post is rather odd.  I don't think I've ever come across an event that made stipulations like that.  But, its an odd world full of odd people.  Odd things happen. 

I haven't followed the entire thread, so my answer is basically a fast reply which is:  No, I don't think it was disrespectful.  I think it was discourteous and poor planning.  I've made mistakes in my past regarding party planning, but thankfully (I hope) nothing on that level.  I do think it odd (my word for the day I guess) that you are still working this over in your mind, all these years later.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:45:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bodhisatva
I went to a play party . . .
. . . expected to pick a role from a hat, all of them having a submissive angle . . .
. . . is that just par for the course? Do you thiink this that kind of thing's just to be expected in this lifestyle?

Your host/ess was a fucktard.

In Detroit, the Doms would have all ganged up on the host and humiliated them. We would have left them tied up and gagged somewhere with a “slap me. I’m stoooopid” sign by their face. At the other end, a box of rubber gloves and KY by their ass with another sign that said, “please reach in and find the stick up my ass”. Then we would have ate their food, drank their booze and fucked the host’s submissives.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 7:52:33 PM   
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RS - I'd like to invite you to a party, but you'll have to draw a submissive trait like order from a hat and follow it all  night...  Ok?  There'll be plenty of food and booze...but you'll have to bring your own stick .....

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 8:57:37 PM   
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Ok. You all ripped the newbie a new asshole. You all had your red meat. Time to back off.

It's just pathetic how you people treat newbies.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:01:13 PM   
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Damn. I didn't realize that disagreeing with the guy meant I'd be included in the "you all are ripping him a new one" group for this thread. Jeez, if I'm gonna being accused of that I should at least be able to get my punches in.

Um... "Stupid newbie twit with your silliness! How dare you come in and and say something people might not agree with!".

There we go. I feel better now.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:03:32 PM   
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I wasn't ripping new ones or sniping newbies!  Yikes!

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:03:38 PM   
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Ok. You all ripped the newbie a new asshole. You all had your red meat. Time to back off.

It's just pathetic how you people treat newbies.

Someone who creates a new profile, and, on the very first day of its existence, makes a baiting Opening Post in Politics and Religion, is not a "newbie."  It's the fingerprint of someone well versed in the site, who decided to start a new name because he got the old one dirty somehow.

Please save your indignation for someone who is actually new.  If you do that, I will support you when you tell others to back off.


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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:08:22 PM   
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Ok. You all ripped the newbie a new asshole. You all had your red meat. Time to back off.

It's just pathetic how you people treat newbies.


I am looking for red meat... nope, none on this thread... i think you exaggerate a mite.


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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:13:18 PM   
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Someone who creates a new profile, and, on the very first day of its existence, makes a baiting Opening Post in Politics and Religion, is not a "newbie." It's the fingerprint of someone well versed in the site, who decided to start a new name because he got the old one dirty somehow
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If that is true then attack him for that. But that is probably off topic so you cant. There is no excuse for what happened.

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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:14:15 PM   
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Lorenzo-you can't control other's behavior-only your own.


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Someone who creates a new profile, and, on the very first day of its existence, makes a baiting Opening Post in Politics and Religion, is not a "newbie." It's the fingerprint of someone well versed in the site, who decided to start a new name because he got the old one dirty somehow
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If that is true then attack him for that. But that is probably off topic so you cant. There is no excuse for what happened.



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RE: Is this as disrespectful as I think it is? - 3/2/2010 9:19:41 PM   
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I seen you people attack the newbies time and again but this time was just too far. And you people know who you are. Many were objectively giving thier opinions and I commend those people for not joining in on the feeding frenzy.

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