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Yeah, I heard some clown on Bill O (said clown quite possibly being of the SPLC ilk) complaining about rightwing hate groups. He specifically mentioned a group called "Oath Keepers", said they were really bad, dangerous types. Bill O said he'd call them, offer them a chance to come on the show. Guy who founded the group came on the next night, ate Bill O's lunch. Dude cost me $30.
Which is what I paid to join the next day.

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Brain = Brainless

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Whats wrong with militias?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Why would they form before now? The deficits have never been this bad before. Even Hillary Clinton claims the deficit is so bad that its a security issue.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2511749320100225

Are you going to claim that Hillary hates the president now because she's speaking out regarding this issue?

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they don't get into social issues because its especially the deficits that matter right now

Ok, and I've never seen a good answer to this yet, where the hell were they during the Reagan and Bush43 administrations?

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Brain, should we keep our doors and windows locked?

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You suck their balls too, do you?

Some Tea Partiers hate Obama, sure. Some of them hate Bush,too -  but thats neither here nor there. What the Tea Partiers really hate are these incrediblly irresponsible deficits that are robbing the future from America's future generations. They hate the way the Constitution is being degraded, and the way states rights are ignored.

Those are their issues, they don't get into social issues because its especially the deficits that matter right now. Thats why they're drawing in people from all walks of life. its something that most reasonable people can agree on.

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There are plenty of Democrats who are a part of the growing Tea Party movement, as well.

And they call themselves what?  Democratic Teabaggers who hate Obama?

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So this may be as peeing in the wind, though I'll leave that to the menfolks.  So much more hassle for us wimmin.

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OK, since this turned into a Tea Party thread, instead of a Rightwing Terrorist thread -

Actually- and this may shock some- I don't necessarily disagree with the Tea Party in all issues.

My disagreement with the Tea Party is that it has as its main signature a sprawling, unfocused anger and bitterness; all those Obama/ Joker signs, the threats of violence, the bitter calls for revolution- these things aren't just tolerated within the Tea Party, they are actively encouraged. Those red-faced boors shouting at last summer's townhalls were not a few rogues, they were the core of the group.

I could have a positive and cordial argument about the deficit- the deficit, after all, is just a numbers problem to be resolved- either by raising revenue or cutting spending, or both.

But its tough to have a civil discussion when the other person is holding a poster saying that you want to kill his beloved granny.

So time for another cheap plug for my favorite new group, the CoffeeParty which is dedicated to fostering a return to civil dialogue, and consensus agreement among Americans.

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For a second night in a row, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calmly & succinctly eviscerated Rep. Bart Stupak

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I KNOW, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY HE'S AN ASSHOLE

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and he won't be a Democrat for long, he WILL BE PURGED.

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These days I don't trust anybody. And I can only tell you I always lock my doors and windows.

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Because if they really were sweating deficits, they would've been up in arms during the Reagan administration, then in Bush 43, both periods of great increases in the national debt.

> Ronald Reagan’s First Term – $656 billion increase > Ronald Reagan’s Second Term – $1.036 trillion increase > George H.W. Bush’s Term – $1.587 trillion increase > Bill Clinton’s First Term – $1.122 trillion increase > Bill Clinton’s Second Term – $418 billion increase > George W. Bush’s First Term – $1.885 trillion increase > George W. Bush’s Second Term – $3.014 trillion increase > Barack Obama’s First “Year” – $1.573 trillion increase
Yeah, it's scarier than shit, having the debt run up.  However, I'm not hearing of alternatives.  You can only cut about a quarter of the budget unless you want to screw with the sacred cows of defense, Medicare/Medicaid, and Social Security.  Two wars were put on credit instead of having taxes increased to support them. 

I'll bet you a dime to a box of your favorite donuts that most unemployed people are also (medically) uninsured - exacerbating a problem we've had for decades; IIRC we're the only first world country that provides medical insurance through an employer.  Any uninsured people who have the misfortune to land in a hospital will be supported by the insured, so you can pick your poison.  Fund coverage for the uninsured, or pay via your own insurance company.

IMHO we're going to have to raise taxes to generate some income.  Remove the ceiling on SS taxes, and you'll fund it to 97%.  Increase withholding for Medicaid and fund it properly.  Start taking a good hard look at defense (even more than Gates has to date) for cuts.  If you can relieve the pressure on the sacred cows, maybe it would free up funds for the new programs.

But, after all, I'm an engineer and didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.  So this may be as peeing in the wind, though I'll leave that to the menfolks.  So much more hassle for us wimmin.

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Why would they form before now? The deficits have never been this bad before. Even Hillary Clinton claims the deficit is so bad that its a security issue.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2511749320100225

Are you going to claim that Hillary hates the president now because she's speaking out regarding this issue?

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they don't get into social issues because its especially the deficits that matter right now

Ok, and I've never seen a good answer to this yet, where the hell were they during the Reagan and Bush43 administrations?

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Really, the Tea Parties aren't about joker posters or who did what first, fundamentally this movement is the real deal. Even Pelosi is making noises which would suggest that  she's trying to climb on board with it.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/02/pelosi-and-the-tea-party-share-views.html

Its not a fad, its picking up steam, and while it has its fringes just like everything else this movement is fully in the mainstream.

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It's people like you that will be first to go. Well, right after Obama and the heads of all the too-big-to-fails.
What a complete load of shit.

When it's extremist to believe in freedom, sound money, and sanity, the country is ready for another revolution. Yes, the kind that involves people shooting other people in the face until they die. With guns.

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When it's extremist to believe in freedom, sound money, and sanity, the country is ready for another revolution. Yes, the kind that involves people shooting other people in the face until they die. With guns.

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The tea party is just another right wing fuckfest filled with right wing fuckwads.

You think libs are going to sit and watch that Alaskan cunt speak at a function? Maybe to get a laugh,but to actually think that she has something worth saying? Hell to the no!!

I hope they stick around...I hope that the nascar loving conservative crowd is duped into believing that the tea baggers have merit and should be promoted.

Please let this happen... Please let the movement grow. All it will accomplish is splitting an already weakened party of douchebags.

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It's people like you that will be first to go. Well, right after Obama and the heads of all the too-big-to-fails.
What a complete load of shit.

When it's extremist to believe in freedom, sound money, and sanity, the country is ready for another revolution. Yes, the kind that involves people shooting other people in the face until they die. With guns.

What a douchebag you are. Thank God you don't have a job to be able to afford any guns.