quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Having followed this story, the boy walked in on the sleeping woman and shot her almost point blank then went right on to school like nothing happened. The evidence behind it is the footprints in the snow. No adult prints were found and the size of the boy's foot was different than that of the little girl who discovered the mother.

There is lots of information on the case that can be found if you look past the singular link posted here.

The thing about these types of situations is that there's a high likelihood that, upon release, the boy will commit another crime of this magnitude or greater. Repeatedly throughout criminal history, especially in males, when they start this young, they don't stop.

I'd rather not spend money on housing a large possibility of a violent, hopeless case. And that goes no matter how old the person is.

boi

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's frightening how quick people are to call for lynchings - underneath our semi-civilized surface, the mob is simmering, waiting to find an avenue to boil over.

Apparently some memebers of the mob will not be sated with the lynching of the supposed shooter.....one of our rabid group actually has nominated the father for his own turn swinging under the stout limb.....absolutely stupifying!

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Having followed this story, the boy walked in on the sleeping woman and shot her almost point blank then went right on to school like nothing happened. The evidence behind it is the footprints in the snow. No adult prints were found and the size of the boy's foot was different than that of the little girl who discovered the mother.

There is lots of information on the case that can be found if you look past the singular link posted here.

The thing about these types of situations is that there's a high likelihood that, upon release, the boy will commit another crime of this magnitude or greater. Repeatedly throughout criminal history, especially in males, when they start this young, they don't stop.

I'd rather not spend money on housing a large possibility of a violent, hopeless case. And that goes no matter how old the person is.

boi

Going on nothing more than the scenario you just recounted....does that sound like the accounting of a "sane" mind at work?A "sane" 12 year old mind at work?
If there is some mental defect are you still proposing that we take it out back and "put it down"?
Just trying to figure where the hell the bar is set.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Before we hang him, might we consider that boys of this age (and younger) spend a lot of time shooting others in video games that are extremely realistic.

Perhaps we might also question, whether he knew the gun was loaded? It could easily be that he was playing round, reenacting something he'd seen or heard about on TV or in his video games, and thought the gun safe? Maybe even a prank to get his stepmother to wake up when the gun went click rather than bang - not funny of course, but possible for a boy of that age.

E

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Before we hang him, might we consider that boys of this age (and younger) spend a lot of time shooting others in video games that are extremely realistic.

Perhaps we might also question, whether he knew the gun was loaded? It could easily be that he was playing round, reenacting something he'd seen or heard about on TV or in his video games, and thought the gun safe? Maybe even a prank to get his stepmother to wake up when the gun went click rather than bang - not funny of course, but possible for a boy of that age.

E

quote:

ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's frightening how quick people are to call for lynchings - underneath our semi-civilized surface, the mob is simmering, waiting to find an avenue to boil over.

Apparently some memebers of the mob will not be sated with the lynching of the supposed shooter.....one of our rabid group actually has nominated the father for his own turn swinging under the stout limb.....absolutely stupifying!

I did? Please, using the handy dandy quote button, point out and show exactly where I "nominated" the father for a lynching?

C'mon, you're a big boy, you can do it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Having followed this story, the boy walked in on the sleeping woman and shot her almost point blank then went right on to school like nothing happened. The evidence behind it is the footprints in the snow. No adult prints were found and the size of the boy's foot was different than that of the little girl who discovered the mother.

There is lots of information on the case that can be found if you look past the singular link posted here.

The thing about these types of situations is that there's a high likelihood that, upon release, the boy will commit another crime of this magnitude or greater. Repeatedly throughout criminal history, especially in males, when they start this young, they don't stop.

I'd rather not spend money on housing a large possibility of a violent, hopeless case. And that goes no matter how old the person is.

boi

Going on nothing more than the scenario you just recounted....does that sound like the accounting of a "sane" mind at work?A "sane" 12 year old mind at work?
If there is some mental defect are you still proposing that we take it out back and "put it down"?
Just trying to figure where the hell the bar is set.

Yes, put him down. I have a real issue with psychopaths with the inclination to maim or kill beings allowed to live at all...much less on a government dime.

Just sayin...

boi

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Well, as long as we're keeping it all civil like. This is the second time you've posted something retarded m'dear. You jumped to a conclusion that I was saying video games caused him to do it, when I made no such link. What I am saying is that such games encourage a view that guns are toys, ergo the second paragraph.

And BJ, do you really think it inexplicable that he might hide the gun and try to escape, hoping thereby no doubt to evade liability? Every single kid I ever knew does this when they do something that they know theyll get into trouble for. It does not indicate psychopathology, rather it indicates normal childish behaviour.

E

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Insanity...mental defect.....retardation, choose a word anu of these give you pause?

quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

The thing of it is, would you want a child living next to you that has so little impulse control that he would shoot and kill someone living in his house? At the very least he needs to be shut away from society until the age of reason, which I seem to remember is about 25 or so - the age when the brain finally matures. Then he needs to be evaluated by at least 2 shrinks to see if he is a threat to society.

Assuming he is guilty. Because if he isn't, there is a really good chance that the murderer is his father.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Insanity...mental defect.....retardation, choose a word anu of these give you pause?

Nope.

How many of these things can be fixed BEFORE this kid hurts or kills someone else?

quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I can refer to him as a kid. And I can also grieve for his family. And I can also say catagorically that I wouldn't want him living next to me.