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What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:15:35 AM   
VirginPotty


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Status: offline 		if a big part of who you are was making jokes, making people laugh & just general kidding around & your master told you to stop.

Could you give up that large part of yourself for him/her?
I know the rule of thumb is whatever it takes to make your dom/me happy but if you can't be who you are during your vanilla exchanges could you silence yourself willingly?

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:25:11 AM   
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If yes, then maybe that's what you should do, if not consider other options.

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:31:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see how anyone could ask anyone else to completly change who they are. Only if the person wanted that sort of change.

Other than that , this sounds like one of those silly lifestyle things to Me. It seems to Me that some people place more import on roles and activity than on the folks they are involved in.

If you didn't want someone like that, why choose her or him, in the first place?


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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:54:05 AM   
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Sounds like a boring, insecure, and horribly humourless kinda guy.

God bless the smart asses.


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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:55:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly it depends upon the desired outcome of the D-type.

If he wants his s-type to eventually become so frustrated not being her true self that she becomes sullen and depressed, then sure, he should command her to consistently perform in a way that is entirely not her nature or personality.

If he wants her to be happy and fulfilled as the person that she is, he should encourage her lively and sparkly personality - and discipline it - hopefully after choosing her for being like that in the first place.

i draw the line here and differentiate between changing a fundamental part of a person's personality and just plain discipline. If i'm acting a fool i would fully expect my potential Owner to issue a "Quiet" command to tell me to zip it. However that's quite different from if he said "you're too silly and i expect you to stop being a fun-loving and light-hearted person from here on out." Discipline encourages self-control and exploration, fundamental change of a person's true self encourages frustration.

If he really wants her to fundamentally change who she is, i would hope that he would work with it slowly - but i still see that as challenging.

The most enlightened submissives and slaves are the ones who are encouraged to be their true selves, only made better, through discipline.

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:58:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I seriously doubt he'd ask that of me. My sense of humor is a huge part of my personality and one of the main things that attracted him, besides the tits, ass and legs.

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 6:59:24 AM   
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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:05:38 AM   
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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:10:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VirginPotty

if a big part of who you are was making jokes, making people laugh & just general kidding around & your master told you to stop.

Could you give up that large part of yourself for him/her?
I know the rule of thumb is whatever it takes to make your dom/me happy but if you can't be who you are during your vanilla exchanges could you silence yourself willingly?
Read what you said Pots...the rule of thumb is YOU do whatever makes him happy. YOU...not some droid he created, not a body void of their personality...but YOU.

You have a wonderful sense of humor, and anyone that can give a smile to others, and lighten their load in some small way is a very valuable person to know (and i really mean that, damnit).

Perhaps what you should really be asking is WHY he wants you to do this.


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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:14:36 AM   
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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:16:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VirginPotty

All great posts. Thank you Everybody

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:18:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with most everyone :). Potty you have a great personality and don't change. I know mine would never ask me to change cause my personality is a big part of me and I know that is why he chose me.

Thinks,,, he did tell me i'm not as funny as I used to be wonders if he will be dumping me soon.. jk

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:18:41 AM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		It's a Master's prerogative to know how to shape his submissive.  It's a sub's responsibility to find one who develops her properly.

I would ask him why it is that he wants you to lose your sense of humor.  That's a major adjustment and a massive effort - surely there are other ways he'd want you to develop.


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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:20:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		ugh... I think trying to change someone, no matter who they are to you, is a bad thing.. particularly something that is integral to someone's personality.

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:29:49 AM   
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bite me

Ohhhh, Clumsy..............

**Eta ((((HUGS)))) for everyone else**

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:33:41 AM   
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Other than that , this sounds like one of those silly lifestyle things to Me. It seems to Me that some people place more import on roles and activity than on the folks they are involved in.
With all due respect to Jefffffffffffffffffff, i do not see it as a lifestyle thing at all, with the exception that his role of "Dom" gives him the freedom to express what he would not dare express with a vanilla partner.

I know Potsie pretty well (and love the hell out of her) but admit to knowing very little about Whasshisname, so i am shooting blind here, but shooting none the less.
It sounds to me like Pots is the bright light here in the social arena...bubbly, funny, cute, well liked, personable, etc (i need to stop before i puke). That bright light is partnered with a dud. Perhaps Pots does not see hid duddly ass as such...but that is how he sees himself. He feels overshadowed...sees himself as lacking with social skills, etc. He has tried to keep up, to match her vivaciousness, and failed each time, and he cannot tolerate that.
Wereas a vanilla man would find a reason to end the relationship (blaming her, of course), the "Dom" feels it is his right to demand she change, while offering no valid reason for that request. He is using his dominant role to try to force suppression of the part of Pots personality that he envies.


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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:34:54 AM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		Are you saying I could be wrong?..... who is your mentor... I need to speak with Him!

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:39:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VirginPotty

if a big part of who you are was making jokes, making people laugh & just general kidding around & your master told you to stop.

Could you give up that large part of yourself for him/her?
I know the rule of thumb is whatever it takes to make your dom/me happy but if you can't be who you are during your vanilla exchanges could you silence yourself willingly?


I suppose that I wonder if he is wanting you to stop all joking around or if there is the possiblity that he is feeling like the butt of too many jokes. 

Do you tease him relentlessly over the same things, over and over and over?  And that is what he wants you to stop?

Or does he just like being Mr.-Serious-with-a pickle-up-my-butt? 

If it was the former, then I would say YES you should work on knocking that off.  If it is the later, then maybe buy him some comedy DVDs and CDs?  

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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:42:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

Are you saying I could be wrong?
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good heavens Jeffffffff....don't be silly. I would NEVER tell you *snicker* that you are *snooooort* wrong.


MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!



i tried...really tried to get through that without laughing......i have failed.


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RE: What would you do............. - 3/25/2010 7:44:25 AM   
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Or does he just like being Mr.-Serious-with-a pickle-up-my-butt?

If it was the former, then I would say YES you should work on knocking that off. If it is the later, then maybe buy him some comedy DVDs and CDs?
Damn Aylee...she can always just tell him to remove the Gherkin...

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