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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 8:32:06 PM   
perverseangelic


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I see how this is gonna turn out already... depends on the hitting.. if i'm playing.. in a scene... and i ask for it... totally different... and no one hits on a regular basis like one would tell someone to eat from a damn dog dish... but yet on the other hand.. hit me not in a scene.... and you WILL be picking your ass up on the fucking floor... either that or the paremedics will be...

But I will not get into one of your pissing matches either .. so whatever you think is right or wrong.. isn't going to matter... so I'll agree to disagree with you... and let this thread go as far as your comments to me.... Enjoy your evening.


I wasn't trying to attack you, nor do the pissing match thing. It isn't my style at all. I have no problem disagreeing with you, nor with you voicing any opinion you have. I do have a problem with a blanket condemnation of a spesific kink because it isn't one you enjoy and I think that I read your post that way, when that wasn't what you intended.

I read some pretty harsh judgement in what you said. That is, I read your post as saying that anyone who eats from a dog dish lacks self respect. Because I know this to be untrue, I reacted to it. I think, though, that reading your replies, I simply didn't quite get what you were saying.


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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 8:34:24 PM   
Tikkiee


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Status: offline 		I have a girlfriend who is very much into humilation. When we visit their house, her Master has her eat dinner with us from a dog bowl. For her, it's an exhilarating experience. For him, just as much so because of her will to submit in such a way to him, and in front of guests.
 
I will say that these actions in no way lessen the respect I have for these two people.

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:02:02 PM   
truesub4u


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Status: offline 		I suppose this is where i'm suppose to either get pist.. or say how sorry I am...

Nope... not tonight... If ya took what I said personally... then you're the one with the issue on it.. not me.. I may not type... talk the way you want so you can know what I mean.. but i'm not going to change me.. to please all... if you want to possible question me on what I said.. or correct me on what I say.. there's the e-mail system... or better ways... than trying to humilate me on the board... as you can probally tell.. i'm not into the humilation thing... so there for I'll smile.. and continue on... reading the board... posting on the board... and let you go on about your way as well....

Have a great weekend.


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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:03:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truesub4u

I suppose this is where i'm suppose to either get pist.. or say how sorry I am...

Nope... not tonight... If ya took what I said personally... then you're the one with the issue on it.. not me.. I may not type... talk the way you want so you can know what I mean.. but i'm not going to change me.. to please all... if you want to possible question me on what I said.. or correct me on what I say.. there's the e-mail system... or better ways... than trying to humilate me on the board... as you can probally tell.. i'm not into the humilation thing... so there for I'll smile.. and continue on... reading the board... posting on the board... and let you go on about your way as well....

Have a great weekend.



don't get angry true, come on over, we will make dinner together . . . i am sure we will find someone to serve. 

s.

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:07:52 PM   
truesub4u


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Status: offline 		LOL far from angered hun.. but thanks... 

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:16:09 PM   
MzPam


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I just have to say, there are alot of things W/we do in this lifestyle that can be percieved as humiliation. Wether some believe a person would have no respect for the other if they had them do certain things, like eatting out of a dog dish, I personally would not lose respect for a slave I asked to do anything , if I were to even think it would, I would not ask them to do it.
I asked My slave what he thought on this one and he agrees, that although it is not for everyone it is not a disrespectful act, in his opinion, I understand to some it is disrespectful, and feel they are disrespecting themselves if they do eat out of a dog dish.
In this lifestyle everyone is different, not one of us believes or does the exact same thing. I care about My slave(s), and would never do anything to damage him in anyway, so if this was a hard limit for him I would not push it, but if he knew this was of interest he would not object either :)
So I guess I can understand both sides, if I ever deside to have boy ( My slave ) do this then I will either find a big bowl or a "doggie plater" of course I would have to put the real dog outside or something she might think he is getting her food and try to help him eat lol
 
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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:18:46 PM   
MzPam


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Status: offline 		wow that was long sorry lol have had to much time on My hands today :)~ and it all boys fault.

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:31:47 PM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: MontaukDaisies

eating rituals

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:41:05 PM   
wytchywoman


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Status: offline 		Damn. And here I am. The only idiot who tried to eat out of dog bowl but found my snout wasn't long enough. I never considered it "humilation" just a hindrance. -wink-

But then when my owner saw my face was not going to fit into a dog bowl he put a plate of pasta at his feet. He grew tired very quickly of gettiing his ankles splattered. I thought it was kinda fun to splatter his ankles with pasta sauce. Never felt humiliated at all. But that's just me.

Actually, I was disappointed when he said "Enough of that". -giggles-




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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 9:54:35 PM   
Sub03


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Status: offline 		Don't know if you could consider it a ritual but with my Master I have to ask permisson to eat and drink before I touch my food. And wash the dishes afterwards if we are at home.

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 10:03:50 PM   
Lashra


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ORIGINAL: truesub4u

I've cooked and served dinner for Doms plenty of times. Have enjoyed doing so. I've sat and not eaten with them till after they've left and I've eaten with them.

I remember one teased me about making me eat from a dog dish... I got up, placed some food in a dog dish... sat it before him.. and told him.. I only have 1 dog dish.. so I'll have to eat after you.. Sir. Damn glad he had a sense of humor...

But i'm not about to eat outta no damn dog dish... I got more respect for myself than that. And no matter how you try to explain or make excuses, when one makes you do that.. they have no respect for you as a person.


I agree with you unless a person is into puppy play or humilation eating out of a dog dish is for dogs. If the Dom/sub like this kinda thing go for it, but if the sub doesn't let the Dom eat out of it if he likes it so much. human faces weren't designed to use the bowls.

As for some of the other posts go, you have a right to your opinion and a right to voice it if others don't like that, tough shit. This is a public message board and no one has the right to tell you what opinion you should have, what a *good* sub should do etc. If some feel that your judging perhaps they need to know that everyone has a right to an opinion and its not a judgement, you are merely making your voice heard. 

Everyone has their opinion about what is right and what is wrong, BDSM isn't written in stone so what may work for one person isn't going to work or feel right for another. We are supposed to be a community that accepts rather than bashes from all sides just because we don't fit into the molds that some people would like us too.

Keep voicing your opinions truesub4u and ignore the idiots who would try to silence you or turn their opinions into yours.

As for my sub our ritual we cook together, sit at the table together with me at the head he sits at my right. He pulls out my chair for me, slides it back. We have candles and classical music playing softly in the background. He clears the table and then we clean up together. This works for us.

~Lashra

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 10:10:54 PM   
wytchywoman


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

quote:

ORIGINAL: truesub4u

I've cooked and served dinner for Doms plenty of times. Have enjoyed doing so. I've sat and not eaten with them till after they've left and I've eaten with them.

I remember one teased me about making me eat from a dog dish... I got up, placed some food in a dog dish... sat it before him.. and told him.. I only have 1 dog dish.. so I'll have to eat after you.. Sir. Damn glad he had a sense of humor...

But i'm not about to eat outta no damn dog dish... I got more respect for myself than that. And no matter how you try to explain or make excuses, when one makes you do that.. they have no respect for you as a person.


I agree with you unless a person is into puppy play or humilation eating out of a dog dish is for dogs. If the Dom/sub like this kinda thing go for it, but if the sub doesn't let the Dom eat out of it if he likes it so much. human faces weren't designed to use the bowls.

As for some of the other posts go, you have a right to your opinion and a right to voice it if others don't like that, tough shit. This is a public message board and no one has the right to tell you what opinion you should have, what a *good* sub should do etc. If some feel that your judging perhaps they need to know that everyone has a right to an opinion and its not a judgement, you are merely making your voice heard. 

Everyone has their opinion about what is right and what is wrong, BDSM isn't written in stone so what may work for one person isn't going to work or feel right for another. We are supposed to be a community that accepts rather than bashes from all sides just because we don't fit into the molds that some people would like us too.

Keep voicing your opinions truesub4u and ignore the idiots who would try to silence you or turn their opinions into yours.

As for my sub our ritual we cook together, sit at the table together with me at the head he sits at my right. He pulls out my chair for me, slides it back. We have candles and classical music playing softly in the background. He clears the table and then we clean up together. This works for us.

~Lashra


Scuse me. I already pointed out that human snouts don't fit into doggie bowls. My owner briefly played with that until he figgered out I was gonna starve trying to eat out of a dog bowl. Then he gave me a plate of pasta with sauce at his feet. That worked out fine for me. Not for him. He got tired of pasta sauce being splattered on his ankles. I still don't get why some people here think this kind of thing is humilation though

Other than that lil amusing byplay my favorite thing to do is kneel next to him after serving him his meal and then eat out of his hand when he chooses to feed me a morsel.

I haven't lost any weight yet waiting for him to feed me. And food just tastes better when you lick it off of someone else's fingers that you choose to submit to.


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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 10:26:50 PM   
KnightofMists


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra


Everyone has their opinion about what is right and what is wrong, BDSM isn't written in stone so what may work for one person isn't going to work or feel right for another. We are supposed to be a community that accepts rather than bashes from all sides just because we don't fit into the molds that some people would like us too.



There is a big difference between expressing what's right and what wrong for oneself.  As compared to stating what's right or what's wrong for everyone.  Some people are effective more times than not at communicating what they feel is right for themself without implied judgments on others.  Some or not.  Some learn over time to improve their communication and are able to express their thoughts with much less judgmental references.  Admittedly some just choose not to improve themselves and continue to have the same miscommunications over and over again.

Frankly, if someone wants to or have another eat out of the Dog bowl ... well whatever.  Not my thing.  But, I have alot of respect for those that can enjoy what they do,  even if not somthing I like or even understand.  Being around people that are having fun doing what they do... Is a Blast of fun!

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 10:58:28 PM   
MistressLorelei


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ORIGINAL: Lashra

As for some of the other posts go, you have a right to your opinion and a right to voice it if others don't like that, tough shit. This is a public message board and no one has the right to tell you what opinion you should have, what a *good* sub should do etc. If some feel that your judging perhaps they need to know that everyone has a right to an opinion and its not a judgement, you are merely making your voice heard. 

Everyone has their opinion about what is right and what is wrong, BDSM isn't written in stone so what may work for one person isn't going to work or feel right for another. We are supposed to be a community that accepts rather than bashes from all sides just because we don't fit into the molds that some people would like us too.

Keep voicing your opinions truesub4u and ignore the idiots who would try to silence you or turn their opinions into yours.


I agree we all are entitled to an opinion, and there is no 'right' way to Dom or sub, however, the following blanket comment was what caused Me to want to contrast it with My conflicting real life experience:

"But i'm not about to eat outta no damn dog dish... I got more respect for myself than that. And no matter how you try to explain or make excuses, when one makes you do that.. they have no respect for you as a person. " - truesub4u


So regardless of how I try to explain it or make excuses, when I instruct My submissive to eat from a doggie platter, I have no respect for him as a person?  Maybe the blanket quoter would have no respect, but that is not the case for Me.

I agree with Knight of Mists...  Some can tactfully say anything, and some can't.

All this talk of ritual eating  is making Me hungry....

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/6/2006 11:05:36 PM   
truesub4u


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

There is a big difference between expressing what's right and what wrong for oneself.  As compared to stating what's right or what's wrong for everyone.  Some people are effective more times than not at communicating what they feel is right for themself without implied judgments on others.  Some or not.  Some learn over time to improve their communication and are able to express their thoughts with much less judgmental references.  Admittedly some just choose not to improve themselves and continue to have the same miscommunications over and over again.


I gotta say this... I choose to improve myself... for me.. and mine.. not for all. If my wording isn't to your liking... ummm... no ones making you read it. But by now... if you have not figured out my flaws... and can't deal with them... that's not my fault. It is easier to express how much I do not improve my ways to please you on these boards... got news for you... I'm not here to please you.. or anyone.. not even a possible partner. I'm not on here searching for anyone. So i'm not worried about the.. Oh you'll never find anyone on here with that attitude..hell others have come to accept me and understand my postings to not be offended or feel they have to express their dislikes for my wording..... they over look me, laugh with me, or ask me what I ment...

It's obvious you know my flaws in posting.. as you stated miscommunication over and over...  only with the ones who do not know me... or want someone to rare on and try to humilate...... I'm happy with me just the way I am... and really.. that's all that count...

Have a Great weekend again all... I've got a long drive tomorrow to go meet Misstress...


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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/7/2006 12:30:45 AM   
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Are there couples here who live together and share eating rituals? Where food is served? How it is presented? Does one partner do most of the preparation? Is food eaten with one hand only.. candles.. dog bowls..? Just wondering!


We do not live together, but that doesn't mean we do not dine together.

i have been allowed to eat seated at the table on a few special occasions.  Otherwise it is one of the following, depending on his mood:

* i kneel beside his chair and feed him while he works, allowed to feed myself in the process
* i serve as table on all fours with his food on my back, and when he is finished i may eat...on the floor
* we eat together - Him seated at the table, me on the floor at his feet.
* i wait at his feet while he eats, and he hand feeds me a bite now and then
* i wait at his feet and he lowers his plate (or bowl) to the floor for me to eat what he did not finish

i love all options.  Each provides its own thrill.  Spaghetti is indeed a challenge in the "messy" department!

When we have dined out, i may eat at the table.  He orders for me (but always after asking what i think looks appealing).  Once i was telling him earlier that day how i hate white zinfandel.  He ordered me a glass of it that night.  i thought it was to prove a point, but as i was sipping it (yuck) he said "I don't know how you can like that crap."  i laughed and said "Master, i hate it!!!"  He had misunderstood.  i drank it anyway.

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/7/2006 12:41:13 AM   
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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/7/2006 3:01:33 AM   
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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/7/2006 3:50:29 AM   
treazure


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Status: offline 		Some of the rituals that i have experienced...

Serving the Dom and waiting for a nod to gather my own plate and join Him.

Eating at a childs table set somewhere to the side of Him from my knees, using no utensils and only my mouth to gather the food (doggy bowl if you see it that way)

Being allowed only water while seeing Him drink wine. 

These are only a few, but figured what the heck, answer the post.

treazure

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RE: Eating Rituals - 4/7/2006 4:48:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		For now, when I travel to see him, he does the cooking, I allow that---he delights in serving Me and I need the break--but he does not start to eat or take a sip of drink until I do--I am after all--Mistress.

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