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slvemike4u -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:31:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity More trolling. Liberal gets into argument, Liberal loses argument, Liberal launches personal attack. Then, repeat. Sanity just who keeps score in your world "Liberal gets into argument,Liberal loses argument,liberal launches personal attack.".....are you kidding here,are you the final arbiter of these things? Just who elected/appointed you to such a position? And on the troll front.....same question,how and when did you get the right to decide who is and isn't a troll?Don't you find it amusing that it just so happens that those who disagree with you are consinged to the "troll" columm and those who parrot your silly little thoughts are "fellow posters"...just how shallow are the thoughts inside your little head?

Musicmystery -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:34:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity More trolling. Liberal gets into argument, Liberal loses argument, Liberal launches personal attack. Then, repeat. Actually, that's almost you, exactly: gets into argument loses argument changes the subject multiple times still loses the argument *launches personal attack--the trolling meme is one of your favorites, copied from dawg (it doesn't work for him either). Sometimes you do make valid points--but it gets lost in all the other crap.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:39:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda So when the Saudi government cuts someone's head off for being a witch, they're just decent but misguided human beings and "moderates", and when a Saudi citizen cuts someone's head off for being an infidel they're radical extremists who must be stamped out. Got it. quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Keep working at it panda. If you start to get even close to what I actually wrote I'll be sure to let you know. That's exactly what you said. Islamic extremists who cut off people's heads because that's what their religion tells them to do are moderates, misguided people "in need of a little enlightenment", simply because they are friends of ours. That's exactly what you said. Hey, don't get pissy with me for repeating it back to you. If the shit you say is so stupid even you can't understand it, that's your problem, not ours. Imagine how confusing it is for the rest of us!

Sanity -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:41:07 AM)
The words in your head! I'm remarkably consistent because what I write I write from my heart. The thoughts are my own, based on my own life experiences and education. You're deluding yourself when you try to insist that I hate this group of people or that group of people because I don't. I never have and I never will. I discuss facts, such as the fact that there are Islamic extremist factions who are dangerous, and Islam has a violent past, but its you who twist what I actually say into things that you imagine that I said. Yes, you are suffering from an extreme case of confirmation bias. quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 No, I am reacting to your own words. Nice try at spin but it wont wash with me.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:41:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen What are our options though Panda? We cant realistically impose our culture and values on them, all we can do is educate, inform, prompt, cajole and encourage. E And that's where I'm stopped short, because as i see it we have very few. And none of them good. I can't offer many constructive alternatives. Unfortunately, all I can do is observe that the present state of affairs is deplorable.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:43:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity The words in your head! I'm remarkably consistent because what I write I write from my heart. You might want to consider letting your head get involved in the process every now and then, as well. Probably wouldn't matter much, but it sure couldn't hurt.

brainiacsub -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:44:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity More trolling. Liberal gets into argument, Liberal loses argument, Liberal launches personal attack. Then, repeat. Sanity just who keeps score in your world "Liberal gets into argument,Liberal loses argument,liberal launches personal attack.".....are you kidding here,are you the final arbiter of these things? Just who elected/appointed you to such a position? And on the troll front.....same question,how and when did you get the right to decide who is and isn't a troll?Don't you find it amusing that it just so happens that those who disagree with you are consinged to the "troll" columm and those who parrot your silly little thoughts are "fellow posters"...just how shallow are the thoughts inside your little head? I have yet to be promoted to troll. I am still a "Libtard" but one as Ron would say, with "no dog in this fight, at the moment." I am keeping score, though... Trolls 477,586 Thomas 2

Musicmystery -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:46:09 AM)
quote: they're just decent but misguided human beings and "moderates" Kind of like the conservative "center-right" that keeps electing leaders who funnel funds from the Treasury to the upper class, yet still passionately call it conservative. Gotta love religion. Powerful, mind-bending stuff.

cheffy -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:54:41 AM)
It really irks me that the islamic consider our form of execution is cruel and unusual when they go around cutting peoples head off for a crime that is so silly and anti-islamic. thank god for US for having religous freedom...

slvemike4u -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:54:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity More trolling. Liberal gets into argument, Liberal loses argument, Liberal launches personal attack. Then, repeat. Sanity just who keeps score in your world "Liberal gets into argument,Liberal loses argument,liberal launches personal attack.".....are you kidding here,are you the final arbiter of these things? Just who elected/appointed you to such a position? And on the troll front.....same question,how and when did you get the right to decide who is and isn't a troll?Don't you find it amusing that it just so happens that those who disagree with you are consinged to the "troll" columm and those who parrot your silly little thoughts are "fellow posters"...just how shallow are the thoughts inside your little head? I have yet to be promoted to troll. I am still a "Libtard" but one as Ron would say, with "no dog in this fight, at the moment." I am keeping score, though... Trolls 477,586 Thomas 2 Just when and how did he score 2.Sounds like a home town scoring system to me !

Sanity -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:54:54 AM)
Great, somebody should be keeping score. Thats the total number of trollish attacks off topic so far, I would assume. quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub I have yet to be promoted to troll. I am still a "Libtard" but one as Ron would say, with "no dog in this fight, at the moment." I am keeping score, though... Trolls 477,586 Thomas 2

Sanity -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:56:25 AM)
You're a lowlife troll sometimes too. "Am not, you are". So childish. quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Actually, that's almost you, exactly: gets into argument loses argument changes the subject multiple times still loses the argument *launches personal attack--the trolling meme is one of your favorites, copied from dawg (it doesn't work for him either). Sometimes you do make valid points--but it gets lost in all the other crap.

slvemike4u -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 10:56:36 AM)
And by the way....just keep posting intelligent thought provoking pieces and I assure you your "troll" promotion is a done deal.You have not only my word on it.....but Sanity's history as proof of it!

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:02:43 AM)
The problem is, his thought process is so circular and convoluted, he genuinely does not comprehend how completely illogical and contradictory it is. He really does think it makes sense, and just doesn't understand how everyone else is baffled by it. I know I fire a lot of rounds in his direction myself, but in all honesty I have to say - he really does mean well. He really does think this stuff makes sense.

Musicmystery -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:03:36 AM)
quote: "Am not, you are". So childish. Precisely.

Musicmystery -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:04:43 AM)
quote: t really irks me that the islamic consider our form of execution is cruel and unusual Really? Can you point me to supporting sources?

Sanity -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:07:03 AM)
Oh, zing. I can see why you call yourself brainiac. That could be the number of deliberate derails too though, you know. . quote: ORIGINAL: brainiacsub Ummm...I was actually counting brain cells.

Politesub53 -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:07:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity The words in your head! I'm remarkably consistent because what I write I write from my heart. The thoughts are my own, based on my own life experiences and education. You're deluding yourself when you try to insist that I hate this group of people or that group of people because I don't. I never have and I never will. I discuss facts, such as the fact that there are Islamic extremist factions who are dangerous, and Islam has a violent past, but its you who twist what I actually say into things that you imagine that I said. Yes, you are suffering from an extreme case of confirmation bias. My words ? I dont think so. quote: And sure, Islam had some truly glorious times in its culture and its civilization, that cannot be denied, but that was hundreds of years ago. What have they done for us lately - besides stone rape victims, and gays, and send their children into soft civilian targets with bombs attached to their bodies. Don't get me wrong. Individual Muslims can be and are very warm and charming people, every bit our equals, and in every way. But their society for the most part is really, really fucked up - and I don't see how you can deny that. Who posted the above, you or me ? We were discussing Saudi society being moderate, so again, who posted the words below, you or me ? "Our best hope is that Saudi Arabia moderates over time"

slvemike4u -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:08:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda The problem is, his thought process is so circular and convoluted, he genuinely does not comprehend how completely illogical and contradictory it is. He really does think it makes sense, and just doesn't understand how everyone else is baffled by it. I know I fire a lot of rounds in his direction myself, but in all honesty I have to say - he really does mean well. He really does think this stuff makes sense. Panda,I've tried really tried in the past to take that route with him myself(it might not seem that way...but a long time ago.....) he makes it too dam hard though.My patience,not to mention my tolerance for his personal attacks, are of a finite nature...and he has long ago spent up both.

Sanity -> RE: Our Friends, The Saudis, Will Behead A Tourist Tomorrow (4/2/2010 11:11:48 AM)
What of that is untrue, or contradicts anything else that I have written? Do you think I agree with this beheading, or forcing women to wear Burqas in 120 degree heat, or the murdering of young rape victims by their own fathers out of shame? Show me the inconsistency, or where any of it is factually incorrect. The Saudis are comparatively moderate, I have spelled out what I mean by that in this thread numerous times already. And there is no doubt that they have room to moderate further. You're really trying to split some fine hairs here.

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