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Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:11:02 PM   
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The four noble truths are:
There is suffering.
There is cause for suffering.
There is cessation of suffering.
There is path leading to the cessation of suffering.

Attainment of enlightenment:

Aim : To attain final liberation called Nibbana. (Nirvana)
Instruments : Mind and Body
Procedure : Follow the Noble eight-fold path

1. Right View- To understand wholesome deeds, unwholesome deeds and comprehend the law of Karma.
2. Right Intention- The intention of non-greed, non-hatred and non-delusion.
3. Right Speech- Abstaining from false speech, malicious speech, harsh speech and idle chatter.
4. Right Action- Abstaining from killing, stealing and sexual misconduct.
5. Right Livelihood- Abstaining from wrong and corrupt means of livelihood.
6. Right Effort- Awakening zeal for abandoning of unwholesome states and arising & sustaining of wholesome states.
7. Right Mindfulness- The four foundations of mindfulness (satipattana) namely contemplation on body, contemplation on feelings, contemplation on mind and contemplation on mind-objects.
8. Right Concentration- Abandoning of five hindrances namely: lust, ill-will, sloth-torpor, worry-agitation and doubt through jhanas.

So how do you like them figs?

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:12:54 PM   
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The four noble truths are:
There is suffering.
There is cause for suffering.
There is cessation of suffering.
There is path leading to the cessation of suffering.


Sad to say, my first reaction was that this would make a cool Things in Common quartet.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:13:45 PM   
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Bye, Nirvana.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:13:54 PM   
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I had to beat everyone else to the punch

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:14:58 PM   
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Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:16:00 PM   
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Oh and for the teachings, I think they are a great place to start even for the non religious amongst us.

I still have an issue with that one about lust though...

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:17:57 PM   
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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:19:27 PM   
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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:20:00 PM   
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This is meant to be where to end.

Maybe lust without mindfulness is what is not wanted?

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:20:38 PM   
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So how do you like them figs?


The Middle Way or Middle Path

The descriptive term that Siddhattha Gotama used to describe the character of the path that he discovered led to liberation, coined in the very first teaching that he delivered after his enlightenment.

In this sutta - known in English as The Setting in Motion of the Wheel of Dharma - the Buddha describes the middle way as a path of moderation between the extremes of sensual indulgence and self-mortification. This, according to him, was the path of wisdom.

The middle path does not mean a mid point in a straight line joining two extremes represented by points. The middle path represents a high middle point, like the apex of a triangle. Thus the high middle point is more value filled than a mere compromise.

In later Theravada texts as well as in Mahayana and Vajrayana Buddhism, the Middle Way refers to the concept, enunciated in the Canon, of direct knowledge that transcends seemingly antithetical claims about existence.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:21:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fluffypet61

Avoid LUST?

All things in moderation!


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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:23:12 PM   
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Haha, I kid.

Yes, moderation. Middle path.

Also important in this context, it seems to me, is the falsehood of suffering. We create it.

Like the politics thread.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:25:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

"To start?"

This is meant to be where to end.

Maybe lust without mindfulness is what is not wanted?

Isn't the end the beginning? I thought that nirvana was a completion of the circle and thus had no end or beginning. Transcendence may end the worldly body, but is not enlightenment a rebirth after breaking the bonds of the karmic chains?

You might be correct on the lust issue, and thus I am always mindful of that feeling, oh and of those that stir it.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:25:18 PM   
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That's big.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:25:55 PM   
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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:26:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: subtee

"To start?"

This is meant to be where to end.

Maybe lust without mindfulness is what is not wanted?

Isn't the end the beginning? I thought that nirvana was a completion of the circle and thus had no end or beginning. Transcendence may end the worldly body, but is not enlightenment a rebirth after breaking the bonds of the karmic chains?

You might be correct on the lust issue, and thus I am always mindful of that feeling, oh and of those that stir it.


MM will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

Enlightenment is the end of the cycle of rebirth. No more rebirth.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:27:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


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ORIGINAL: subtee

"To start?"

This is meant to be where to end.

Maybe lust without mindfulness is what is not wanted?

Isn't the end the beginning? I thought that nirvana was a completion of the circle and thus had no end or beginning. Transcendence may end the worldly body, but is not enlightenment a rebirth after breaking the bonds of the karmic chains?

You might be correct on the lust issue, and thus I am always mindful of that feeling, oh and of those that stir it.


I'm withya there!


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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:29:44 PM   
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Suffering is good for the soul and character building..That's why we need politics...and super lengthy discussions involving it!


Suffering is unavoidable. We will hurt.

But suffering is not the reality of our existence. It's the bullshit shadows that we cover ourselves with and which keep us from reality.

Fuck. I'm not saying it right.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:36:37 PM   
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The Buddha described Nirvana as the perfect peace of the state of mind that is free from craving, anger and other afflictive states (kilesas). The subject is at peace with the world, has compassion for all and gives up obsessions and fixations. This peace is achieved when the existing volitional formations are pacified, and the conditions for the production of new ones are eradicated. In Nirvana the root causes of craving and aversion have been extinguished, so that one is no longer subject to human suffering (Pali: dukkha) or further rebirth in Samsara.

The Pali Canon also contains other perspectives on Nirvana; for one, it is linked to seeing the empty nature of phenomena. It is also presented as a radical reordering of consciousness and unleashing of awareness. Scholar Herbert Guenther states that with Nirvana "the ideal personality, the true human being" becomes reality.

In the Dhammapada, the Buddha says of Nirvana that it is "the highest happiness". This happiness is an enduring, transcendental happiness integral to the calmness attained through enlightenment or bodhi, rather than the happiness derived from impermanent things. The knowledge accompanying Nirvana is expressed through the word bodhi.

The Buddha explains Nirvana as "the unconditioned" (asankhata) mind, a mind that has come to a point of perfect lucidity and clarity due to the cessation of the production of volitional formations. This is described by the Buddha as "deathlessness" (Pali: amata or amaravati) and as the highest spiritual attainment, the natural result that accrues to one who lives a life of virtuous conduct and practice in accordance with the Noble Eightfold Path. Such a life engenders increasing control over the generation of karma (Skt; Pali, kamma). It produces wholesome karma with positive results and finally allows the cessation of the origination of karma altogether with the attainment of Nibbana. Otherwise, beings forever wander through the impermanent and suffering-generating realms of desire, form, and formlessness, collectively termed Samsara.

Each liberated individual produces no new karma, but preserves a particular individual personality which is the result of the traces of his or her karmic heritage. The very fact that there is a psycho-physical substrate during the remainder of an arahant's lifetime shows the continuing effect of karma.

While Nirvana is "unconditioned", it is not "uncaused" or "independent." The stance of the early scriptures is that attaining Nibbana in either the current or some future birth depends on effort, and is not pre-determined.

Furthermore, salvation according to the Pali Nikayas is not the recognition of a pre-existing or eternal perfection, but is the attainment of something that is hitherto unattained. This is also the orthodox Yogacara position, and that of Buddhaghosa.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:37:34 PM   
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So the Buddha was just chillin and going for Nirvana, and he was challenged as to whom the fuck he thought he was. And why did he think he was so worthy to ignore the bad shit we all get caught up in. And he just reached down and touched Earth.

See?

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