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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:40:58 PM   
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The final obstacle Buddha faced to his enlightenment, and the most difficult, the greatest demon, was his own ego.


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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:42:26 PM   
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Can't you and I both touch the Earth?

(preferably together)

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:44:28 PM   
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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:45:34 PM   
subtee


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You're going to be a dung beetle.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:46:01 PM   
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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:47:20 PM   
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Well you already hate me and that's not very Buddhist of you.

You're going to be a dung beetle.

Let go of the pebble grasshopper and be one with it instead.




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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:49:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

That's just what I said!

Can't you and I both touch the Earth?

(preferably together)


Perhaps.

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Five Fundamental Conditions of Passions and Delusions: 1. Wrong views which are common to triloka; 2. Clinging or attachment in the desire realm; 3. Clinging or attachment in the form realm; 4. Clinging or attachment in the formless realm which is still mortal; 5. The state of unenlightenment which is the root-cause of all distressful delusion.




And thus we enter the paradox that is discussed in the dharma-dhatu, the reality of being and non-being, as it is all inclusive can enlightenment ever be attained?



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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:52:13 PM   
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The fact that we are each here means we are the same. Deal.

Dude got all honky and pissed off at me at the 4-way stop today. It wasn't my turn but the truck next to me was going which meant dude was gonna have to wait anyway. So I went. And ruined his day.

Yet he and I can both touch the same earth at the same time and never again in history will that be true. So which choice to make? Assholic or peace?


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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:54:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Thadius


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

That's just what I said!

Can't you and I both touch the Earth?

(preferably together)


Perhaps.

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Five Fundamental Conditions of Passions and Delusions: 1. Wrong views which are common to triloka; 2. Clinging or attachment in the desire realm; 3. Clinging or attachment in the form realm; 4. Clinging or attachment in the formless realm which is still mortal; 5. The state of unenlightenment which is the root-cause of all distressful delusion.




And thus we enter the paradox that is discussed in the dharma-dhatu, the reality of being and non-being, as it is all inclusive can enlightenment ever be attained?




We could argue whether the Buddha attained enlightenment. I'm not gonna. But you can't argue that you and I are here together.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:54:27 PM   
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And thus we enter the paradox that is discussed in the dharma-dhatu, the reality of being and non-being, as it is all inclusive can enlightenment ever be attained?

There is no need to "attain" it... it can only be denied. Samsara is Nirvana.

K.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:55:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Thadius

And thus we enter the paradox that is discussed in the dharma-dhatu, the reality of being and non-being, as it is all inclusive can enlightenment ever be attained?

There is no need to "attain" it... it can only be denied. Samsara is Nirvana.

K.

Thanks for the correction.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 8:57:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee


quote:

ORIGINAL: Thadius


quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

That's just what I said!

Can't you and I both touch the Earth?

(preferably together)


Perhaps.

quote:


Five Fundamental Conditions of Passions and Delusions: 1. Wrong views which are common to triloka; 2. Clinging or attachment in the desire realm; 3. Clinging or attachment in the form realm; 4. Clinging or attachment in the formless realm which is still mortal; 5. The state of unenlightenment which is the root-cause of all distressful delusion.




And thus we enter the paradox that is discussed in the dharma-dhatu, the reality of being and non-being, as it is all inclusive can enlightenment ever be attained?




We could argue whether the Buddha attained enlightenment. I'm not gonna. But you can't argue that you and I are here together.

Why not?

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:01:15 PM   
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I'm trying.

The fact that we are each here means we are the same. Deal.

Dude got all honky and pissed off at me at the 4-way stop today. It wasn't my turn but the truck next to me was going which meant dude was gonna have to wait anyway. So I went. And ruined his day.

Yet he and I can both touch the same earth at the same time and never again in history will that be true. So which choice to make? Assholic or peace?


Since you are trying are you not the one who is dealing? I'm fine with things. I don't hate you nor anyone for that matter.

That's your choice to make.

I choose balance as much as possible. I believe in Karma but who's ego will cloud it from their own sight.


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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:01:19 PM   
subtee


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Are you writing in response to me this question?

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:04:32 PM   
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Since you are trying are you not the one who is dealing? I'm fine with things. I don't hate you nor anyone for that matter.

That's your choice to make.

I choose balance as much as possible. I believe in Karma but who's ego will cloud it from their own sight.



Yes I am the one who is trying. Yes I am the one who is dealing.

I know you're fine with things!

I think ego will cloud anyone's sight. Mine, for sure.

I do have a choice with you. I thought at first to ignore you because you hurt me before. But I decided not to because you and I are the same. Here.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:06:16 PM   
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There is no need to "attain" it... it can only be denied. Samsara is Nirvana.

K.


Would you please write more about this?

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:12:11 PM   
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Since you are trying are you not the one who is dealing? I'm fine with things. I don't hate you nor anyone for that matter.

That's your choice to make.

I choose balance as much as possible. I believe in Karma but who's ego will cloud it from their own sight.



Yes I am the one who is trying. Yes I am the one who is dealing.

I know you're fine with things!

I think ego will cloud anyone's sight. Mine, for sure.

I do have a choice with you. I thought at first to ignore you because you hurt me before. But I decided not to because you and I are the same. Here.

Well I won't argue that the hurt feelings are your responsibility and I have no power to do anything that you don't allow but I will ask you to look into why you were hurt by those words to begin with. Were you doing something that wasn't nice? Regardless of the answer..I wasn't out to hurt you.


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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:17:20 PM   
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Nirvana was so '08. I am a not here with anyone. I look down upon all of you and chortle.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:17:51 PM   
subtee


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Status: offline 		Exactly. It was all my responsibility. This is just what I'm saying.

That is the suffering that is the bullshit. "Suffering" as in un-rightness or un-peacefulness.

And I will wear my responsibility and still respond to you because you and I are both here, which means we have something to love (cripes this sounds so hippy peacnik), but seriously, you won't feel value after it's all dust.

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RE: Buddhism - 4/8/2010 9:24:13 PM   
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I I am a not here with anyone. I look down upon all of you and chortle.


Yes, you are. You are here with me. And it will never happen again. Chortle.

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