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Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/16/2010 10:07:28 PM)


Sounds like all your chicks survived Ken, which is good news! Great videos too, it surprised me how the video was shot by hand up fairly close. We can't get near our birds here except when Fish & Game comes by to band them, or if one glides down to the street level while trying to learn how to fly and has to be taken back up to the nest.

Or when they're screaming and diving at us, for being in their general vicinity.


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

The local chicks are flying now. 2 moved to a different site while learning to fly and there are some great videos of them posted here:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/falconcam




cpK69 -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/17/2010 9:15:11 AM)

Sweet... $100 and temorary ownership of a T-shirt. lol

Good for you, both. ;)

I bet it was entertaining to watch. I miss living in the woods. [>:]

Kim




DomKen -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/17/2010 1:23:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sounds like all your chicks survived Ken, which is good news! Great videos too, it surprised me how the video was shot by hand up fairly close. We can't get near our birds here except when Fish & Game comes by to band them, or if one glides down to the street level while trying to learn how to fly and has to be taken back up to the nest.

Or when they're screaming and diving at us, for being in their general vicinity.


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

The local chicks are flying now. 2 moved to a different site while learning to fly and there are some great videos of them posted here:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/falconcam


They're filming through the library windows. The chicks are pretty used to people being on the other side of the glass.

This year only 3 of the 4 eggs hatched but all three chicks have fledged.

Here's video of the chicks being banded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS3vBHIW1DE




Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/17/2010 3:23:50 PM)


I loved the video Ken, thank you for posting the link.




Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 8:29:34 PM)


I saw him again tonight, some other birds were harassing him while I was doing some work in my back yard which got my attention and here are a few of the photos. Now that I have an image of him to compare he doesn't really match up with file photos of golden eagles that I see on the web, or any hawks of falcons that come up in image searches either. He is very large... can anyone positively ID him?

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ORIGINAL: cpK69

Listening to the wind, when it is blowing constantly, is a bit unnerving, but I enjoy listening to the birds, too.

I’m still amazed at how much bigger they are than what they appear on the camera.

Did you see the new pics of the fish and game person holding one?

You can see their progress from one day to the next; it’s that fast. Amazing!

I wonder if that is general magpie behavior, or if they are protecting something?

I look forward to seeing pictures of the golden eagle. [:D]

I should get back over to my parent’s. I wouldn’t mind seeing the bald eagle again, maybe a pair of them, sometime.

Kim



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Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 8:30:56 PM)

Here he is holding relatively still for me

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DomKen -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 8:48:01 PM)

Red tailed Hawk maybe?




Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 8:50:20 PM)


I believe you nailed it Ken!

Thanks once again!




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 9:23:15 PM)

It's a buteo, alright, not an eagle. The head's wrong for an eagle.

But it's not a red-tailed either, unless it's a subspecies with which I'm unfamiliar. The underside of the wings is wrong. Red-tailed hawks have a basically uniform light coloration from front to back on the underside of the wing, and this bird has a white leading edge and dark flight feathers. I think it's a Swainson's hawk.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 9:30:25 PM)

Here we go...

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ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 9:32:52 PM)

Wait a minute. Something about this just isn't right. Sanity's hawk is facing to the left, and mine is facing to the right.

That's just not possible. I need to re-think this whole thing...




DomKen -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/21/2010 9:52:15 PM)

Never seen a Swainson's in person but I think Panda is right. The pictures look a lot alike.




cpK69 -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 3:50:41 AM)

Nice shots, Thomas!

It’s just a guess, but if yours and Pands’s are the same type of bird (they do look very similar), perhaps yours is a female?

I found this image (fifth one down) of a female dark swainson’s hawk. Outside of being different colors, what do you think?

http://redtailboa.net/forums/birds/18616-some-raptor-pictures.html

Kim





Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 6:06:17 AM)


Now I'm confused - I'm not sure if I should be more in agreement with Panda, or with Ken...

The Swainsens is supposed to be a small hawk and this magnificent creature is very large, which is why I assumed it was an eagle at first, before I saw its underbelly. Included is a photo with one of the European starlings that was harassing it, which helps show its size. These photographs are cropped significantly by the way, I can't zoom out quite that far with my little Canon.

I also found this:


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Regional Differences


Red-tailed Hawks have extremely variable plumage, and some of this variation is regional. A Great Plains race called "Krider's" hawk is pale, with a whitish head and washed-out pink in the tail. Light-phase western birds tend to be more streaky on the underparts than eastern Red-tails; south Texas forms are darker above, without the dark belly band most other Red-tails have. Dark-phase birds can occur anywhere but are more common in western North America - particularly in Alaska and northwest Canada, where the all-dark "Harlan's" race is common.

http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Red-tailed_Hawk/id

And so while I hate to disagree with Kim, and though I'm not certain about it, this bird may be too large to be a Swainsens.

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

Wait a minute. Something about this just isn't right. Sanity's hawk is facing to the left, and mine is facing to the right.

That's just not possible. I need to re-think this whole thing...






[image]local://upfiles/292349/D1C893E2319149F69115DCFDF47DA356.jpg[/image]




mistoferin -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 6:10:16 AM)

I believe it is a Swainson's. I did find one site that says they are small hawks but most sites say they are a medium sized hawk. The thing that kind of clinches it for me is the tapering of the wings. We have a lot of red tailed hawks here and I think they have a broader wing with less taper.




mistoferin -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 6:15:30 AM)

The angle of the wings in flight is wrong for a red tail also. Red tails wings are generally flat out.




Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 6:31:06 AM)


Panda may be correct.





cpK69 -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 7:11:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Now I'm confused - I'm not sure if I should be more in agreement with Panda, or with Ken...



Well, Ken did say he thinks Panda is right. [:D]

Sorta hard to tell them apart, though, in flight seems to be the easiest way to tell the difference.

Kim




DomKen -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 7:50:37 AM)

From what I can find Swainson's are a little smaller than red tailed. It is supposed to have a wider wingspan though with slimmer wings. When soaring it is reported to keep its wings at an angle to each other rather than flat like most soaring birds.

There is suppused to be a lot of Swainson's at the Snake River Birds of Prey National Conservation Area which isn't too far from Sanity.

I really think it's a Swainson's.




Sanity -> RE: Birds Of Prey (6/22/2010 8:20:45 AM)

Correct, Ken - I can drive there in around half an hour from my place. 




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