MasterCord
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ORIGINAL: MasterCord Those who do not understand/believe that Obama wishes to destroy and weaken this nation are either naive or blind. I predicted he'd go after the military....and he has. quote:
ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer How has he "gone after the military" by trying to reduce the nuclear threat in the world? Here are my thoughts on this.....recognizing others may disagree. Every US President, has tried to slow nuclear proliferation - most, save for President Carter did so with the olive branch AND the arrow. NO US President has ever said we would not respond to a provocation in kind, (Even President Carter TRIED to pull off an operation inside Iran...) or more strongly. Obama's goal, in my opinion, is to castrate the US military so that the money can go to fund his socialist agenda and he can go down in history as some or another thing Rev. (eeeeccchhhh) Wright wants him to be. How long do you think it will be before we start hearing that given all of the debt service we are now saddled with thanks to Obamanomics, we cannot "afford" the military? What you are seeing now in my opinion, is Step 1. Having gone all over the world sucking up to anyone willing to listen to his apologies for this country, he is now on a crusade to let the world know it is ok to walk all over us and fear nothing. The whole value of a nuclear force is deterrence. You saw how quickly the Iranians released the hostages once President Reagan took the oath of office. They knew he'd not take any shit from them and that he'd come after them. Read some of the post-kidnapping analysis. The Iranians feared being turned to dust. To be able to do that you need a strong military and yes, the ability to wipe entire nations off the map. Unilateral disarmament and equivalent statements about self-castration are suicide in a nuclear world. Look at history.....the weak NEVER survive. He can apologize for himself....but I resent his trying to apologize for me. I have NOTHING to apologize to the world for. NOTHING. As for the US, Stalin and Hitler, Stalin begged and then threatened, in order to get the Allies to open a second front, before they finally did so in Italy and to a lesser extent in North Africa. The Allies feared Stalin might sue for peace to save his country and join the Axis. (...the infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact signed by Russia with Germany then their co-invasion with Germany of Poland in 1939 were ample evidence of Russian tendencies in that regard...) Once Hitler decided to attack his ally, the Allies had Stalin almost over a barrel, but again, not quite. Had Hitler not needed to devote forces in the west, there was no way Stalin could have defeated Germany on his own. He benefitted from Lend/Lease to a degree, but what really benefitted him was the Allied war on the U-boats in the Atlantic that finally began to have an effect and allowed more and more supplies to reach Russian ports. Roosevelt was prescient in that he saw Stalin needed the help while Churchill wanted to be more cautious. (...both positions understandable given Russian history....) It was Roosevelt who insisted on and finally set a timeframe for the invasion of Europe - something Stalin had wanted since 1942. Yes, Stalin killed LOTS of Germans but Stalin was fighting a one-front war while the Allies were engaged on both sides of the world (Russia did not declare war on Japan until after Germany was defeated...though it had fought Japan in border wars in 1938 and 39, winning both...but Russia was losing more people in the war than anyone...) .....but put simply WW2 could not have been won by the Allies without the US, it's armed forces and its' industrial might. Hitler might well have defeated Stalin if he could have put 100% of his forces into it. He was working on a nuclear weapon. He was finally beginning to see the value of long-range bombers and aircraft carriers. He had the first operational jet fighters. What he did not have was a brilliant tactical mind or enough focus. The former was his issue - the latter was wholly caused by the Allies, by the US entry into the war. Even major Allied screw-ups, like Market Garden, still required Hitler to commit forces he could have used vs. Russia. The Russians did not get into Poland until January, 1945. The US had given the war in Europe a priority footing, over the war in the Pacific. But...you did not see Roosevelt on the radio telling the Japanese that we would not fight them with all we had because we had to fight the war in Europe. A very close friend I met in my industry some 30 years ago, was a carrier pilot for the IJN during WW2. I spoke with him last night on this whole Obama snafu....and he said this..."Had your President Truman told us he had a super bomb but would not use it, Japan would have seen him as a coward. It would have pushed Japan to do more because we always heard Americans did not have the guts for war. This would have proved it. Once you tell a sworn enemy that you will turn the other cheek, expect to have to turn it very quickly. " Sage advice....
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