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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:15:42 PM   
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yeah- meanwhile Rothschild owns all parties to the "war"

Feel like a pitt bull yet?

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:20:07 PM   
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Yes, but they were expecting it.

What... they do not have winter in Germany?
On the other hand no one was expecting that winter. 
It was the coldest winter on record.


They have winter everywhere outside of the tropics.
Germany tends to have milder winters than Russia though, as does France, which led to Napolean embarrassing himself in much the same way at an earlier date.
I think Hitler was expecting to be able to conquer the whole of Russia before the first snowfall, or some equally daft notion.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:20:20 PM   
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Tommie you are kidding with that post aren't you?
Do the words....pot...kettle...black...,hold any meaning for you?


Does the fact that you have never won a arguement with me yet mean anything to you?
That of course is according to you....right?
Must be nice to act as one's own little "scorekeeper" ,nice system you got going for yourself.


No no no mikey this is the space where you are suppose to list all the times you proved I was mistaken in one of my statements of fact that you like to disagree with but have never been able to prove wrong.
I'll let others make up their own minds where our respective credibility is concerned.....yanno,instead of waving a victory flag over my head and declaring "I won the debate" as you like to do....Treasure has you pegged, as do a number of other posters here....Firms method of dealing with the slightly deranged(as detailed in one of belladevine's threads) is probably best...ignore and forget them...they will go away.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:28:10 PM   
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Everyone forget Obama's inheritance?
Oh, but that was then, nothing to do with now. And.....
Why all this ranting about history...it's over, done, has no relevance to the present....that's why it's history......just like now....with this Obama guy.
Who cares what the Bush did, what Stalin did, what Hitler did.......Ratzsinger was a nazi..... Lincoln was court marshmallowed...so what...that was then....this is now, and we should concern ourselves with the now... Obama is failing, his economics is too late, what about the wars, and the bailouts...he has failed to deliver the country, and is failing.....as for the past, it's history, over, done, just makes for somewhat good movies, something to entertain ourselves with.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:32:01 PM   
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Those who can refute or rebut do.


And just precisely what was I to try to rebut or refute?  That I wear dresses?  That Firm and I have similar levels of intelligence and ability to communicate? 

I could deny your assertion that Firm asked me to reply to you until I was blue in the face, but what possible proof would that provide?  Any pithy comeback that you'd likely provide would still be merely pissing in the wind on your part.  I'd be more a fool than you to give you any credence by giving you the opportunity.  I am here.  You are not.

As for your intimation that my gender or relationship with Firm in any way devalues my comments... well, that is your problem, not mine. 

I could ask you to provide proof on your ridiculous claims about what Firm thinks, knows and does not know, but as you and I both know that it impossible, it would be pointless.  You would just continue to lie or try to twist your misconceptions off onto him.  The same holds true for your knowledge of Firm's education.  

Why would I possibly care to humor your delusions?

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Those who can't call me names.


Or, they just figure it's a complete waste of time. 

Of course, if it makes you feel better you can always just run around claiming you won another argument. 

By the way... where is your rebuttal and refutation on my assertion that you are a fool?

Can't prove it?


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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:35:09 PM   
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... Obama is failing, his economics is too late, what about the wars, and the bailouts...he has failed to deliver the country, and is failing.....


Too late for what?


Dow ends above 11,000 for first time since 2008

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:37:51 PM   
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For being elected in 2000, presumably.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:49:39 PM   
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he has failed to deliver the country


wtf? Is he Jesus delivering us to the promised land?

or a doctor delivering a baby?

or the pony express?

or stand and deliver?

wtf do you mean?

Calling "bollocks" on you

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:50:20 PM   
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I'll let others make up their own minds where our respective credibility is concerned.....

I'm down wif dat.

yanno,instead of waving a victory flag over my head and declaring "I won the debate"

Which you do all the time when  you know it is not true

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:53:26 PM   
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Those who do not understand/believe that Obama wishes to destroy and weaken this nation are either naive or blind.  I predicted he'd go after the military....and he has.


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer



How has he "gone after the military" by trying to reduce the nuclear threat in the world?






Here are my thoughts on this.....recognizing others may disagree.

Every US President, has tried to slow nuclear proliferation - most, save for President Carter did so with the olive branch AND the arrow. NO US President has ever said we would not respond to a provocation in kind, (Even President Carter TRIED to pull off an operation inside Iran...) or more strongly. Obama's goal, in my opinion, is to castrate the US military so that the money can go to fund his socialist agenda and he can go down in history as some or another thing Rev. (eeeeccchhhh) Wright wants him to be. How long do you think it will be before we start hearing that given all of the debt service we are now saddled with thanks to Obamanomics, we cannot "afford" the military?  What you are seeing now in my opinion, is Step 1.

Having gone all over the world sucking up to anyone willing to listen to his apologies for this country, he is now on a crusade to let the world know it is ok to walk all over us and fear nothing. The whole value of a nuclear force is deterrence. You saw how quickly the Iranians released the hostages once President Reagan took the oath of office. They knew he'd not take any shit from them and that he'd come after them. Read some of the post-kidnapping analysis. The Iranians feared being turned to dust. To be able to do that you need a strong military and yes, the ability to wipe entire nations off the map. Unilateral disarmament and equivalent statements about self-castration are suicide in a nuclear world.  Look at history.....the weak NEVER survive.

He can apologize for himself....but I resent his trying to apologize for me. I have NOTHING to apologize to the world for. NOTHING.

As for the US, Stalin and Hitler, Stalin begged and then threatened, in order to get the Allies to open a second front, before they finally did so in Italy and to a lesser extent in North Africa. The Allies feared Stalin might sue for peace to save his country and join the Axis. (...the infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact signed by Russia with Germany then their co-invasion with Germany of Poland in 1939 were ample evidence of Russian tendencies in that regard...) Once Hitler decided to attack his ally, the Allies had Stalin almost over a barrel, but again, not quite.

Had Hitler not needed to devote forces in the west, there was no way Stalin could have defeated Germany on his own. He benefitted from Lend/Lease to a degree, but what really benefitted him was the Allied war on the U-boats in the Atlantic that finally began to have an effect and allowed more and more supplies to reach Russian ports. Roosevelt was prescient in that he saw Stalin needed the help while Churchill wanted to be more cautious. (...both positions understandable given Russian history....) It was Roosevelt who insisted on and finally set a timeframe for the invasion of Europe - something Stalin had wanted since 1942.  Yes, Stalin killed LOTS of Germans but Stalin was fighting a one-front war while the Allies were engaged on both sides of the world (Russia did not declare war on Japan until after Germany was defeated...though it had fought Japan in border wars in 1938 and 39, winning both...but Russia was losing more people in the war than anyone...) .....but put simply WW2 could not have been won by the Allies without the US, it's armed forces and its' industrial might. Hitler might well have defeated Stalin if he could have put 100% of his forces into it. He was working on a nuclear weapon. He was finally beginning to see the value of long-range bombers and aircraft carriers. He had the first operational jet fighters. What he did not have was a brilliant tactical mind or enough focus. The former was his issue - the latter was wholly caused by the Allies, by the US entry into the war. Even major Allied screw-ups, like Market Garden, still required Hitler to commit forces he could have used vs. Russia. The Russians did not get into Poland until January, 1945.

The US had given the war in Europe a priority footing, over the war in the Pacific. But...you did not see Roosevelt on the radio telling the Japanese that we would not fight them with all we had because we had to fight the war in Europe.

A very close friend  I met in my industry some 30 years ago, was a carrier pilot for the IJN during WW2. I spoke with him last night on this whole Obama snafu....and he said this..."Had your President Truman told us he had a super bomb but would not use it, Japan would have seen him as a coward. It would have pushed Japan to do more because we always heard Americans did not have the guts for war. This would have proved it.
Once you tell a sworn enemy that you will turn the other cheek, expect to have to turn it very quickly. "

Sage advice....


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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:55:21 PM   
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yeah- we are broke- the nukes will be privatized.

you watch.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 3:56:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Those who can refute or rebut do.


And just precisely what was I to try to rebut or refute?  That I wear dresses?  That Firm and I have similar levels of intelligence and ability to communicate? 

I could deny your assertion that Firm asked me to reply to you until I was blue in the face, but what possible proof would that provide?  Any pithy comeback that you'd likely provide would still be merely pissing in the wind on your part.  I'd be more a fool than you to give you any credence by giving you the opportunity.  I am here.  You are not.

As for your intimation that my gender or relationship with Firm in any way devalues my comments... well, that is your problem, not mine. 

I could ask you to provide proof on your ridiculous claims about what Firm thinks, knows and does not know, but as you and I both know that it impossible, it would be pointless.  You would just continue to lie or try to twist your misconceptions off onto him.  The same holds true for your knowledge of Firm's education.  

Why would I possibly care to humor your delusions?

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

Those who can't call me names.


Or, they just figure it's a complete waste of time. 

Of course, if it makes you feel better you can always just run around claiming you won another argument. 

By the way... where is your rebuttal and refutation on my assertion that you are a fool?

Can't prove it?




You are so cute when you pout ky.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 4:04:09 PM   
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You are so cute when you pout ky.


Hmmm... how does that go?  Those who can refute and rebut, do?

lol... I was pretty sure you couldn't prove you aren't a fool.

Does this mean I win?  

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 4:31:23 PM   
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He shall declare a winner momentarily...cere to wager on whether or not he chooses....anyone other than himself ?

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 4:51:09 PM   
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Would there be more hissing if I posted that picture again?

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 4:52:18 PM   
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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 4:56:31 PM   
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You do know that I don't live in the 'States, right?
(The fact that I call your country that rather than America should be a tip, really...)

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 4:59:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

He shall declare a winner momentarily...cere to wager on whether or not he chooses....anyone other than himself ?


lol... As entertaining as this has been, it's nonetheless been a waste of time. 

Besides, I think we both know the outcome.   

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 5:00:45 PM   
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Yep...if nothing else the man is predictable....a few other things too....but I shant go there tonight.

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RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals C... - 4/12/2010 5:10:38 PM   
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This thread is a trainwreck.

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