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cuckoldmepls -> Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:10:50 AM)

Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer

Apparently aware that support for his policies and of liberal policies in general is evaporating faster than a mud puddle in the Sahara desert, Emperor Obama has been on blitzkrieg of further weakening the nation both economically and internationally.

One day after announcing to the world that under no circumstances would the USA ever use nuclear weapons in response to a non-nuclear attack, the president who thinks he is a king, has agreed to hobble America's missile defense system. A missile defense system that the Russians are strongly opposed to, because it effectively tilts the balance of power to the USA. Today in Russia. While the administration has not released details of the treaty, the Russians are hailing this as a victory. Basically the president caved into each and every Russian demand. It would appear that the defense of America is secondary to his desire to pretend that there can ever be a nuclear free world. The Russians are the winners in this agreement, which still must be approved by Congress, there is little doubt that it will receive the support of the left, who's overwhelming desire to reduce the US to a banana Republic is embodied in this administration.

This of course comes on the heels of the US emperors unilateral decision and announcement to terrorists world wide that the USA will not under any circumstances respond to a chemical or biological weapon attack with nuclear weapons. Not to worry friends, the president has assured a worried population that rather than a nuclear a response, he will speak very sternly against any person or nation who might attack the US in this way. He also implied he might wag a finger while delivering this stern warning and pronouncement of disappointment. As a final measure he will ask the UN to produce a letter of condemnation of any WMD attack against us.

The world is learning rapidly that it is indeed a very dangerous time to be an ally of the USA. While the the Great and Powerful Obama has literally kissed the ring of Arab despots, bowed to dictators and publicly professed his desire to engage murderous dictators worldwide in talks, he has snubbed our only ally in the mid east, Israel, by presuming to tell them where in their own country they may build homes and then refused to meet with the Israeli president publicly. He has canceled trips to visit allies in Asia to help ram through a health bill law opposed by a vast majority of Americans and backed out of a promised missile defense system with Czech Republic, to protect them from an ever more aggressive Russia.

The first action taken towards enacting the new health care abomination was to hire 15,000 new IRS auditors to make sure it is enforced, then claimed that the IRS would not be involved in enforcing it. While the nation continues to hemmorage jobs, the federal government has increased it's work force by an astonishing 10+% in the last year alone. While private sector jobs continue to be scarce, he recently added several hundred new employees to the Immigration enforcement dept. Not to crack down on illegal immigration, don't be silly, this increase in in agents is specifically assigned to making sure illegal immigrants in the construction industry are being paid prevailing union wage. Any company found paying an illegal immigrant less than that wage will be fined and forced to pay retroactive back pay to the criminal who is stealing an Americans job.

I have to admit, 1 year and a few months into this joke of an administration, I was wrong about this guy. Before the election I was fond of telling people if you liked Jimmy Carter you'll love this guy. I thought Jimmy Carter was as bad as a president could be. I was wrong. I would gladly trade four more years of the idiot peanut farmer for two and half years of this marxist.

It has become apparent that Obama has recognized the fact he has only 6 months to complete his destruction of the American economy and defense. So he is moving ahead full bore with every wack job socialist agenda item he can. It would appear his strategy is that if he does enough monstrous things to the nation in a short time we will not be able to undo them all when the nation votes the liberals out of power in November.

Once upon a time we could take solace in the fact that his approval rating is dropping faster than any president since they started keeping track of that type of thing, but it is of no concern to him. This president is nothing less than a political suicide bomber. He knows full well he is destroying the Democrat party and that he has virtually no hope for re-election. His goal is to do as much damage as possible before he and the democrats self immolate.

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Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:13:18 AM)

Explain to me again how you're not partisan?




countrychick -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:13:46 AM)

So you're alright with billions of tax dollars going to build/maintain nuclear arms? That will never be used or.. if they are used will likely result in the destruction of most of the Earth? Seems like it makes a little more sense to put those $$ back into saving the planet, providing health care, education and hey even reducing taxes ;)




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:17:34 AM)

Makes ya want to see one of my links?

Man-  that was a rant.   yeash.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:19:11 AM)

1. The we will not use nuclear weapons on non-nuke countries is an outright unveiled threat to Iran, for those paying attention at all (or at least semi-capable of doing so).

2. We can blow up the world with nukes 12-14 times over and are now going to reduce that, but still remain in the double digits of destruction.


Neither one weakens America, except in the weak minds of the weak minded.




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:21:08 AM)

Not to mention our conventional forces are far, far stronger than Russia's (or anyone else's).




mnottertail -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:25:11 AM)

Which I will agree with in a very limited sense, insasmuch as I have ranted and spewed long and unheededly about China test blowing a satellite out of the sky with a conventional everyday dime-store rocket.

Ron




Moonhead -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:25:32 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Not to mention our conventional forces are far, far stronger than Russia's (or anyone else's).

Well, that was why NATO was set up as a world police force in the first place, wasn't it? The set up was looking pretty redundant as soon as the Soviet Union imploded.
I'd question that your armed forces are better than China's though: you have the guns, but they have the numbers...




countrychick -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:30:17 AM)

China isn't going to attack the US, the USA is one of their largest export markets ;) Unless.. they close the border.. at which point expect Pearl Harbour all over again! SO totally joking on this but yea I don't see any country in the world attacking the USA.. too strong an enemy before you go and say it, no I don't think Afghanistan attacked the USA, I think some crazy terrorists did and even that could be questionable. And Iraq the USA fullout invaded all on its own without provocation irregardless of whether WMD's were found or not. Now if all those Asian and Middle Eastern countries got together... then I'm moving to the arctic and praying that Santa Claus has a force field over his igloo :D

PS. before you attack my ignorance yes I know Pearl Harbour was a Japanese attack..




slvemike4u -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:34:40 AM)

Guns,sophisticated and intense training regimens and the ability to operate autonomously...nope Moon,we are the world pre-eminent conventional force.
Of course the value of that has been somewhat degraded by the evolution of warfare inot these littel insurgent affairs....but against any traditional nation-state and their armed forces....our tecnological advantage combined with those other factors leave us standing on the top of the hill alone.




pahunkboy -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:39:23 AM)

Even at this hour we are DRUGGING the Russians.  Can you say OPIUM?

Per haps your kin is guarding it for us in Afghanistan.

Just say BLOW?




vincentML -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:41:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Not to mention our conventional forces are far, far stronger than Russia's (or anyone else's).

Well, that was why NATO was set up as a world police force in the first place, wasn't it? The set up was looking pretty redundant as soon as the Soviet Union imploded.
I'd question that your armed forces are better than China's though: you have the guns, but they have the numbers...


Build a world police force and someone will find use for it.




Moonhead -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:42:14 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Guns,sophisticated and intense training regimens and the ability to operate autonomously...nope Moon,we are the world pre-eminent conventional force.
Of course the value of that has been somewhat degraded by the evolution of warfare inot these littel insurgent affairs....but against any traditional nation-state and their armed forces....our tecnological advantage combined with those other factors leave us standing on the top of the hill alone.

No argument with that, Mike, but (as you say) your military is pretty useless for what you want it doing at the moment, unfortunately.

Countrychick: yep indeedy. I just thought it was a bit odd that MM referenced Russia, when there's more imposing armies about these days. As you say, the Chinese have the ultimate weapon to use on America if anything kicks off, the terrifying engine of destruction they call an invoice...




mnottertail -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:43:15 AM)

and by the way, once again this 'supposed' original words from the op is a plagarism (as nearly 99% of his crap is, notwithstanding his further prevarication regarding same...) from a chris w of abbington mass, a 24 year old with about a 7 year old political intelligence.


Ron




slvemike4u -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:43:36 AM)

Well shit Moon...we could always just default [:D]




mnottertail -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:44:38 AM)

get 'em in the pocketbook just like all the terrorists have been doing us? rather like the symmetry of that.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:48:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

1. The we will not use nuclear weapons on non-nuke countries is an outright unveiled threat to Iran, for those paying attention at all (or at least semi-capable of doing so).

2. We can blow up the world with nukes 12-14 times over and are now going to reduce that, but still remain in the double digits of destruction.


Neither one weakens America, except in the weak minds of the weak minded.


Have you got any facts to back up the "we have enough nukes to blow up the world 12-14 time", Ron?

Firm




FirmhandKY -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:51:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Not to mention our conventional forces are far, far stronger than Russia's (or anyone else's).

[1] Well, that was why NATO was set up as a world police force in the first place, wasn't it? The set up was looking pretty redundant as soon as the Soviet Union imploded.
[2] I'd question that your armed forces are better than China's though: you have the guns, but they have the numbers...


1. NATO never has been a 'world police force". 

2. In modern warfare, numbers are a factor, but a very small factor when compared to logistics, command and control, available technology and training. 

Firm




mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:52:21 AM)

i say, screw it...lest get the nuclear war over and done with so we that survive can finally live in peace...LOL




LashVicious -> RE: Obama Weakens American National Defense; Liberals Cheer (4/12/2010 9:54:41 AM)

Hmm, and Bush and his acolytes did such a GREAT job.  They had their turn.  It seems like sour grapes for the "conservatives"(although I can't see WHAT they're "conserving"...) who thought they were going to rule the American Empire in perpetuity.  Get over it.




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