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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:15:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

But Sara jane,
What about when he's not around? I don't think the guy did anything WRONG, but he certainly didn't help her for the future when his shining armor is at the metllurgist's shop. That weekend, with their supprot, she could have practiced standing up to an idiot (or more than one) knowing that she had her knight if she needed it. Instead, he just helped her in that one moment.

Like the guys who say "I'll protect you" to their girlfriends, what is she to do when she's alone? "I'm sorry, Mr Robber / Miss Lack of Boundaries, I need to make a quick phone call." No, she needs to grow a backbone. It sounds like he and his crew could be good ones to help her do that!

Best, sunshine


In all seriousness on this topic, I agree Sunshine! My kids didn't leave my home until I had taught them emotional and physical ways to protect themselves. They went to school, they had some lessons from mom. I cannot imagine not preparing children and find it rather disturbing that one would cater to the fallacy of helplessness in an adult. My ego doesn't need to be a savior knight type at the expense of the real well being of another. In fact, I would feel that irresponsible. If anything is required of me, it would be to teach someone to stand on their own two feet and how to protect themselves.


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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:20:45 AM   
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This worthless girl needs protection from the scary people on the forums. Will you consider this insignificant slave worthy of your supreme UberMasterly skills?

she can only hope.

quivering,
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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:38:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

But Sara jane,
What about when he's not around? I don't think the guy did anything WRONG, but he certainly didn't help her for the future when his shining armor is at the metllurgist's shop. That weekend, with their supprot, she could have practiced standing up to an idiot (or more than one) knowing that she had her knight if she needed it. Instead, he just helped her in that one moment.

Like the guys who say "I'll protect you" to their girlfriends, what is she to do when she's alone? "I'm sorry, Mr Robber / Miss Lack of Boundaries, I need to make a quick phone call." No, she needs to grow a backbone. It sounds like he and his crew could be good ones to help her do that!

Best, sunshine


He is well known and respected which is why the collar was then respected and no further problems ensued, plus he did talk with her at length and make it visibly clear she was with him and his family after the incident. He also was around her quite a bit when he wasn't vending. She enjoys watching others' scenes and so didn't stay by him all the time and he was scening with 2 of his girls and myself (she was there watching for 2 of those); and she didn't feel she needed to be right there by his side for constant protection 24/7 either.

I talked with her on several occasions over the weekend. It was not that she was weak or spineless by any means, simply the size of the event and newness of being at such a huge event was a little overwhelming for her and that incident, though she said no and got out of it ok, shook her up. She wasn't expecting to deal with some stranger who didn't want to accept no for an answer.

I know I'm not giving a lot of details here but am trying to be clear enough without excess details.

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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:39:40 AM   
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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:41:46 AM   
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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:42:44 AM   
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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:43:02 AM   
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RE: Under Protection? - 4/15/2010 8:52:43 AM   
UniqueRaven


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*happy dance*

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RE: Under Protection? - 4/28/2010 7:14:15 PM   
hallieB


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Status: offline 		hello kinky,
i have been under protection for over 2 years now. i dont quite understand why most people think this is gibberish or fake. If you are a Masters slave you are his personal property to do with what he wishes. Dont you agree that everyone protects their personal property to some extent. Think of your car or your house.
Master not only protects me from people or vultures who might want to take advantage of an unsuspecting submissive female but he also protects me from lifes everyday dangers. And yes in doing so he also teaches me to be more aware and to make good judgements when he is not there. He has accepted responsibility for me, and in doing so it is his duty to protect me at all times, therefore i am under his protection. Not much different than a parent protecting their child. You want them to learn and mature to the point where they can make good judgements but you would not stand by and let any danger come to them.

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RE: Under Protection? - 4/28/2010 10:29:18 PM   
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RE: Under Protection? - 4/29/2010 12:09:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven
A spine! Yay!

*happy dance*
LOL... I made my online "slave" a bottle of freedom (it even fizzes and everything, nice scripting if I do say so myself). She uses it to show to her vanilla friends when they get worried about her losing her freedom. "Oh no, it's right here. I keep it on the mantle over the fireplace".

Now I'm thinking i need to make her a spine too.

And I still need to bottle some freedom for Carol in real life... too bad I'm way at making stuff on computers than I am in RL.

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RE: Under Protection? - 4/29/2010 4:42:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

But Sara jane,
What about when he's not around? I don't think the guy did anything WRONG, but he certainly didn't help her for the future when his shining armor is at the metallurgist's shop. That weekend, with their support, she could have practiced standing up to an idiot (or more than one) knowing that she had her knight if she needed it. Instead, he just helped her in that one moment.

Like the guys who say "I'll protect you" to their girlfriends, what is she to do when she's alone? "I'm sorry, Mr Robber / Miss Lack of Boundaries, I need to make a quick phone call." No, she needs to grow a backbone. It sounds like he and his crew could be good ones to help her do that!

Best, sunshine


Actually Sunshine, here I am going to disagree with her. Not about the robber thing, because the guy would be equally helpless to an armed intruder.

Putting that scenario aside, yes, you can say I'll get back to you to the person without boundaries and call for advice. Saying I'll get back to you doesn't get the same immediate response as No does and we all know people who get really nasty when being told No.

So it eliminates having to deal with that nastiness right away when you aren't prepared for it. You get support in saying no and figuring out what would be the safest way to do so. And you feel calmer knowing you have someone to turn to in need.

Frequently just knowing you can turn to someone is more than enough support to give you the strength to deal with it yourself and then you don't have to turn to them.

In the case Sarajane is talking about, it seems clear. She felt overwhelmed and by having the collar, she knew she had someone to turn to if in need. And because she knew someone had her back, she didn't need to use that help even though it was there. Emotional support with the promise of more if needed.


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RE: Under Protection? - 4/29/2010 4:33:54 PM   
winterlight


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Status: offline 		Doesn't the sub/slave protect the Dom/me also?

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RE: Under Protection? - 4/29/2010 6:43:08 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Do we, in good relationships support each other? Sure.
But in different areas depending on each of our areas of vulnerability and need.

However a 'under protection' isn't a full relationship. It's a partial one, used to offer support to a nervous sub by (hopefully) a dom friend.


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RE: Under Protection? - 4/29/2010 6:47:44 PM   
UniqueRaven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

quote:

ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven
A spine! Yay!

*happy dance*
LOL... I made my online "slave" a bottle of freedom (it even fizzes and everything, nice scripting if I do say so myself). She uses it to show to her vanilla friends when they get worried about her losing her freedom. "Oh no, it's right here. I keep it on the mantle over the fireplace".

Now I'm thinking i need to make her a spine too.

And I still need to bottle some freedom for Carol in real life... too bad I'm way at making stuff on computers than I am in RL.


OK this makes zero sense to me - are there any other bottles around tonight? 

Hee hee! 

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RE: Under Protection? - 4/29/2010 7:00:11 PM   
CaringandReal


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ORIGINAL: MonPetitChaton

I'd rather be under Master without protection....



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RE: Under Protection? - 6/12/2010 11:18:57 AM   
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Hmmmm, I always thought it meant something like less than formally collared by Master X, Y, or Z.  The plaything without all the icky responsibilities of ownership.  Like leasing a car, no?

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RE: Under Protection? - 6/12/2010 11:27:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Like 99% of all that goes on in this site, it's BS.
And I'm still looking for that other percent.

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RE: Under Protection? - 6/12/2010 5:45:33 PM   
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quote:

Like 99% of all that goes on in this site, it's BS.

'Under protection' is seen in many places (heck FL has a profile category for it).
quote:

And I'm still looking for that other percent.

Ever stop to think that your attitude and constant whining are the reasons you can't find it?




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RE: Under Protection? - 6/12/2010 5:49:52 PM   
DaddysInkedSlut


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Status: offline 		When I lived in California I often wore a protection collar of a dom friend of mine when I would go to lifestyle events or clubs. Although I can handle myself it gave me a sense of distance between me and the trolls that often think that uncollared submissive / slaves at functions are fair game and meat to be taken by all.

I personally dont see the use in a protector online UNLESS they are a mentor of sorts.

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