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Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disguise... - 4/15/2010 6:20:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hope he does what's best for the country instead of voting the Republican Party line. If Republicans did what this does for the country they would find themselves doing much better in the polls and on Election Day.


Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disguise for congressional Democrats? - Yahoo! News

When Scott Brown scored his upset victory in January's special election to fill Edward Kennedy's Senate seat, panicked Democratic Party insiders assumed the sky was falling. Brown's election as the newest senator from Massachusetts meant that the Democrats had lost their razor-thin 60-vote majority to counter GOP filibuster threats on major legislation.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 6:42:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Scott Brown campaigned as a moderate and has acted as a moderate since being elected. He said he wasn't going to play partisan politics and he hasn't. He said he'd work to break the gridlock in Washington and he has. He said he'd reach across party lines to do the right thing and he does. When someone is a centrist, the difference between Republican and Democrat is nuance. The partisan Republicans and talking heads were idiots when they said Brown's election meant the country was rejecting Obama and moving to the right. The Independents who elected Obama are the same ones who elected Brown. It demonstrates once again that the majority in this country are moderate pragmatists.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 6:45:00 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 6:47:35 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 6:49:42 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:12:21 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:23:57 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:34:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

We are experiencing sheer lunacy right now. How long was Obama a senator ? Maybe 18 months ?
Awww,Servant did my little joke go right over your little head?

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:40:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a Massachuseets resident, I feel your post puts things in exactly the right perspective. Well put. Scott Brown is doing what he promised to do.

While my own political views generally lean to the right, I'm not far off of center but definitely to the right side of it. My views differ depending on the issue. Extreme right in some things, a bit off to the left of center in others.

I support the Tea Party movement, but I have to say I was pleased that Brown did not bail out of Washington for a photo-op at the big TP event in Boston Tuesday. On the other hand I do think his views (...as he stated them...) are to the right which gives me great hope but he is above all else focused on doing his job. He will vote based on his views AND I believe, the views of the people who put him in office.  Yet in the end I think he will vote what he feels is best for America.

I stated in another post that people were tired of politicians on both sides of the fence. If anything, Scott Brown's performance in even this short span of time should make "party-oriented" politicians pretty uncomfortable. He is showing that people in political office CAN deliver the sort of performance brainiac notes in her post and that raises the bar for those on both the extreme left and extreme right of the ledger.

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ORIGINAL: brainiacsub

Scott Brown campaigned as a moderate and has acted as a moderate since being elected. He said he wasn't going to play partisan politics and he hasn't. He said he'd work to break the gridlock in Washington and he has. He said he'd reach across party lines to do the right thing and he does. When someone is a centrist, the difference between Republican and Democrat is nuance. The partisan Republicans and talking heads were idiots when they said Brown's election meant the country was rejecting Obama and moving to the right. The Independents who elected Obama are the same ones who elected Brown. It demonstrates once again that the majority in this country are moderate pragmatists.


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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:45:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is it spin Rich ?Is it somehow wrong...or perhaps it cheapens the victory if those of a center-left leaning admit to some appreciation for Brown?

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:50:20 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 7:53:24 PM   
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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 8:38:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		A Republican is sitting in the "Kennedy Seat," Mike. These are the rationalizations of those who find denial easier than therapy. The problem with that approach is that you learn nothing from your mistakes.



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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 8:43:42 PM   
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Siddhārtha F-ing Gautama!

Brown is EXACTLY who he said he is! He's also voting EXACTLY how he said he would vote.

I know that's a novel idea for politicans but worry not... were he to gain a national following and secure say The Republican POTUS nod, I am sure the left will jump right back on the "Brown is a wacko right wing extremist" bandwagon.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 8:49:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Rich I'm a registered Democrat...but unlike some recent leadership of the Republican party I actually beleive there is a place at the table for Republicans .The news here is that Brown seems to be rejecting Tea Party invitations in favor of actually doing his job.Given the fact that we must have Republicans at the table lest there is no credibility and more divisiveness perhaps this particular Republican in that particular seat is more problematic to some on the right than it actually is to those on the left.
Hell maybe it is better for all of us.
    I would have thought you would be enthusiastic to see Brown do more than just try to act as a speed bump to Democratic legislation....Perhaps he can actually join in governing instead of sitting on the sidelines issuing dire warnings about socialism and the end of the Republic?

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 9:44:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've seen this play out before, Mike. The Dems will hate him again soon enough. Co-opt or destroy.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 9:55:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		And failing that....if he fails to raise the ire of the Democrats....he will earn the dreaded RINO tag and be subject to the vitriol of the right.
Yeah Rich we have both seen this play before.....bottom line the divisiveness is killing us...all of us Dem's and Repub's.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 10:04:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Unfortunately, Mike, if "bipartisan" is defined as "admit you are wrong and do it my way," that ain't gonna change. And it shouldn't.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 10:13:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not much for changing the meaning of given words or phrases.....so how about we stick with what bi-partisan does mean.
"the ability to see the utility of an idea rather than just looking at where the idea originated from"
Perhaps you would choose different words to define it.....but essentially is this not what it means?

And lets take it a little farther would not a politician operating with such a guideline come under fire from these tea partiers....doesn't the right wing of the Republican party demand absolute fidelity to certain party principals...unbending in it's rigidness?

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 10:23:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's funny, Mike. You challenge my description of politics as practiced, instead of the idealistic model, and then procede to characterize the TP strictly along the Dem talking points.

Talking points, I might add, which are not going to play well among those who have lost confidence and need to be persuaded back.

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