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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 12:29:47 PM

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Jeff, your gay neighbors would TURN YOU GAY. You'd become tidy and limp-wristed. You'd watch HGTV and do your Mother's hair. You'd have coral-painted toenails and wear tank tops to garden. You'd fervently wish you could be a "Real Housewife," while outwardly and shrilly making catty comments about "those drama whore bitches." You would live to dance, Jeff. Live to. It's a cautionary tale I'm telling. It happens far too often.

And I'm probably more at risk than most for this. I'm the one with the color sense in my family and I'm the one who does the interior decorating. I also buy the clothes for both Carol and myself since I have the fashion sense between us.

But wait! What's this you say? I'd dance better? *ponders*

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 1:14:01 PM

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Never again will you "panic at the disco"

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 1:30:52 PM

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I watch HGTV . . . is that the first sign?
I'm really a lesbian trapped in mans body aren't I?
That whole commune concept is gonna land me in the girl's locker room on an swim team after I get a sex change isn't it?
..damn this thread. It has changed my life.

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 1:33:39 PM

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The individuals thought of as "Old Guard" today were not exclusively gay men, but mostly were. There were a few straight men, not many. There were a few women, both lesbian and straight, though of those there, they were mostly straight. The reason for women specifically showing up in the bars in New York in the 1950', 1960's, and 1970's has more to do with New York legal code making it illegal for men to gather and dance in any given establishment.

Stonewall was 1969. As of June in that year, homosexuality in NYC was legal, or at least not something that was going to get you fined or imprisoned.

So speaks one of those 'beards', a nonleather, non S & M long term denizon of a Fire Island gay community. But I was welcome in those bars and dance places even after they didn't need me.

Care to save someone damn near old enough to be your grandmother from herself? Someone who was there and does know what it was all about? And it wasn't about community. It was about rough sex and lots of casual play.

Of course I can't back it up as all of those post WWII leathermen are now dead or in nursing homes being at the youngest, mid 80s.

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 1:34:58 PM

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Yes, but do you think you'll be a very butch lesbian, Closer to Fine and steel-toed Doc Martens?

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 2:16:25 PM

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I watch HGTV . . . is that the first sign?

Possibly - but, above all, watch out that you don't start exhibiting a natural sense of rhythm.

(Or I maybe I'm thinking of something else.)

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/29/2010 7:49:23 PM

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I have an alternative perspective to this, mainly because I see this post as a response to the 21st century interpretation of community post-Internet, whereas I still see things from the perspective of when the Internet evolved into what it is today. Back in the late 1980s, when online identities were still in their infancy, I was part of what I would consider a bdsm community that existed before the Internet took hold. But during that time, a new identity was created for those into the scene who were all quickly becoming a part of message boards, newsgroups, chat rooms and bbs systems. These people never had a chance to interact with each other before, mainly because they didn't even know others of similar tastes were located so close in proximity to them. But what we started to discover was that people who were doing their own community things were in little circles of their own, and those circles started to intermingle with each other, until we had larger communities of groups that had never coexisted before, mainly because of ignorance of knowing about each other.

It was a really unique time because people started coming together and meeting each other for the first time, and a lot of different organizations came about during this time. Some were strong before, but others were brand new, and some morphed into something completely different. It was a truly interesting time to be a part of that "community" because it quickly went away once everyone and his brother discovered the Internet. Now, it's not that same kind of organizational community anymore, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't at one time.

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RE: Communication does not create "Community" - 4/30/2010 8:27:31 AM

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Umm, I've been engaged in S/M for 15 years now. I don't need your permission, or the Leather community's permission - I was involved in it long before I was aware there *was* a community or public scene. Some people like intense things, others are more french vanilla, either way, I don't really see a problem. I've never felt unwelcome in the public scene, or by people I know who are also in the leather community. A couple of people claimed that I shouldn't be allowed to post in the "Ask A Mistress" forum because I'm a switch, even though I have a female submissive playpartner. I just kept posting anyway, as I wasn't breaking the rules, and nobody else seemed to agree with them. If the people in the Leather Community are really so insecure that S/M becoming more popular will change what they do, that's their problem. *shrugs*

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