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herfacechair -> RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer your questions if you have any... (7/14/2010 4:26:44 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
Iraq wasn't about oil it was about western self-righteousness (look at our democracy it's great you too can have it, here let me impose it).
"What you want us to leave now?? But you need us we make you safer, it's a known fact that terrorists picking a fight with the coalition in Iraq is good for the average Iraqi."
If the op took his head out of his arse for five minutes he might realise what a robot like numpty he has become or probably always was. Born to be used by the government, nooo self determination or critical thought. Just does what he is told even sees what he is told to see. A waste of humanity.
This coming from the bonehead with its head shoved so far up its ass it needs a glass belly button to see. This is applicable whether you're talking about asymmetrical warfare, or trying to talk about math as if you know something about it. Perhaps if you realized your actual lack of knowledge on what you're arguing, you wouldn't come across as if you post while being possessed by a retarded ghost.
First things first, the arguments I make here, I came up with those on my own. Nobody told me what to think, or how to think it. I came to those conclusions based on my extensive research on the topic, and on my first-hand account of what we're debating about. Your post reflects arrogance in that it assumes, with out a logical basis, that your position is a universal, "common sense" truth. It isn't.
Second, Iraq wasn't about oil, and it wasn't about western "self righteousness," it was about eliminating an asymmetrical threat against the United States, and the rest of Western Civilization. The solution doesn't just entail the immediate solution... military invasion, counter insurgency, but a long term solution. That's through our providing an environment that facilitates reconstruction and building a government that would work on democratic principles.
The countries, on this planet, with the greatest economies, tend to be the ones with democratic governments. Democracies facilitate economic progress and stability. That's a major factor to why the Industrial Revolutions started in the UK and the US. Countries with healthy economies give their citizens another option, something to aspire for. Developing Iraq and Afghanistan so that they could economically prosper, and be politically stable, is a major tool we're using to improve regional and global security.
In every country that I've been to, and I've been to 5 continents on this planet, everywhere I went... people wanted to westernize if their country wasn't already westernized. They do it willingly, not forcefully. They WANT to westernize.
If anything, your opinions aren't the first time I've encountered them... I've encountered your opinions, as well as those of the opposition, over the years that I've been debating with your side of the argument. What I've observed is that you guys tend to run off with what liberal talking heads spew out, without questioning their claims. You run off and spew what they say, like mindless drones, simply because you emotionally agree with what they're saying. Anybody with critical thinking abilities, having access to the facts that I've came across, would come to the same, or similar, conclusions that I've came to.
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