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TheHeretic -> RE: Just another conservative on vacation. (5/9/2010 1:50:04 PM)
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ORIGINAL: domiguy
C'mon Heretic....I expect deeper thought from you.
Then look a little deeper, DG. Oh, and the prohibition on pork is actually a trendy thing among some of the evangelical churches.
I don't want to get too far away from the subject at hand though. Can we drop the nonsense that if churches didn't call homosexuality a sin, homophobia would disappear?
I believe, as I think you do, DG, that people are gay because that's how the schematics in the dna read. It's no different than being born to be short or stupid, or prone to addictive behaviors. Just because that is the way God made them doesn't mean their only option is to accept it. Short people buy lifty shoes, and there is really no limit to how high a stupid person with ambition can go. We have an entire industry in recovery based on a model with an 85% failure rate, because addicts don't want to just accept who they are and get one with it. Dare I mention women who are genetically destined to grow lumpy thunder thighs?
They all need to believe in something if they want to change. The short guy in platform shoes needs to believe nobody will notice the phone book on his car seat, the unhappy b-cup has to believe that guys find those fake things fun and attractive, and the addict needs to believe in his higher power. I have no problem with a homosexual who believes that God will make him like boobies. I have no problem with people making money by serving those markets, either. Personally, I have believed in some very odd things along the path to making peace with who I am.
Yes. There is an evolution at work. We have come a pretty tremendous distance over our lifetimes, in terms of gay rights and acceptance. (Has there been a thread about the gay couples who moved to Texas after they got married and are being denied a divorce in that state??? That is major fucking progress!)
As to where this thread has wandered, I'm still saying no, we don't try to tell people who believe stupid things that they cannot teach or believe them when they gather in like-minded groups. We deal with their slowly diminishing nonsense with a steady stream of patient reality and logic. We judge them by their speech, mock them for it, but the line of "you cannot say that" needs to be far into the extreme.
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