tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/28/2010 7:41:36 AM)
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There is of course what the NOHARRM table of reported neonatal circumcision complications notes say; Many of these complications go unreported by surgeons, either because they are not immediately recognized on the infant's tiny penis, or they are of little significance to surgeons who circumcise hundreds of male newborns annually. These usually remain unreported throughout a male's life due to his own ignorance of, or inhibitions to report, circumcision-related penile complications. Circumcisions are performed, in US hospitals, in the new born nursery, under the watchful eye of both the Physician and a new born nursery nurse. I, and many others that work such units, happen to have worked hard to gain out licenses. I have gone up against more than one Dr when i felt he was wrong. Perhaps i have been lucky to have worked for Drs who were extremely knowledgeable in the procedure. I even worked during the time the Plastibell was being primarily used. Any complications were noted in my part of the chart. In the US, that is just as binding as the Physician notes. And something a physician cannot change. quote:
Of course some doctors say there is no risk of problems, or if they are honest they might quote statistics to reassure the parent, but say that this procedure is carried out every day, we know what we are doing, every safety precaution is put in place to avoid likelihood of any problem, and then get you to sign on the dotted line to say you have agreed to the procedure,under the title of general surgery thus absolving them of any comeback should one of these minority situations occur. Maybe this is the way it happens in your country. In the US, it hardly absolves anyone of the responsibility of medical mishaps. Allow me to tell a little medical story. I hurt my upper back in a hospital i worked in. Instead of being out with workman's comp, they found a position for me in infection control. Doing paperwork, follow ups after surgeries, ect. One such complication was noted from a particular OR team... a repeated infection. Thankfully not the flesh eating kind, but a bug bad enough to cause sepsis in a few patients. The infection control nurse weilds alot of power. She tested everyone on that team by nasal swabs and hand swabs. Everyone complied, except the surgeon. She discovered he was to do a surgery that day. And there we were, outside his OR, waiting. He was informed that if he did not comply, his priveledge would be revoked to perform surgery at that hospital until he did. Another surgeon performed that surgery. Yep, you guessed it, he was the source. A week suspended and antibiotics and he tested clear. quote:
Could it even be male neonatal circumcision as a religious practice started off as the first instances of paedophillia, a case of a person has license to fumble about because it has become a religious act. Could be, could not be. Perhaps your experience has lead you to that twisted, dark place where you believe such. I canno speak for the past. I cannot speak for what may have lead people to do things. I can speak from a medical perspective now, and from a parents. I can speak from the perspective of being in a family with alot of males. 15 and counting, all circumcised, no complications. quote:
But as it seems we as a society are fascinated one way or the other with genitalia beyond it's requirement for reproduction of the species, I can see why the religious nutters would seek to curtail any pleasure derived from self pleasure, as circumcision was in the past also performed as a cure for masturbation, the doctors having taken the place of the ministry, medical science was becoming the new god, as it is today with the majority of the population. Doctors became the new moral guardians and had the power and intellect to persuade the often uneducated parent. I have not demeaned you, yet you attempt to demean me and others with the comment about "religious nutters". Men didnt care if their sons masturbated, women cared because they didnt wish to hear about such things about their male offspring. The religious bent was to keep this on the side of religion performing such ceremonies. Anyone without a medical degree and a hospital affiliation performing such a procedure on anyone in my family would have faced charges. quote:
It is this, and this only that I believe is the reason for neonatal circumcision, quasi religious practices and where religious scripture no longer works, blind them with medical science and reason. Blind with medical science and reason? Why are you so sure i, as a nurse, with a mother, who was also a nurse, would be so easily blinded?
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