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tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/29/2010 2:48:04 PM)

In an effort to proactively address the ongoing pandemic, the President signed a National Emergency Declaration on H1N1 that allows healthcare systems to quickly implement disaster plans should they become overwhelmed.

As experts expected, H1N1 flu is moving rapidly throughout the country and the majority of states now have widespread influenza activity. This declaration gives authority for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to waive certain regulatory requirements for healthcare facilities in response the ongoing pandemic. Specifically, healthcare facilities will be able to submit waivers to establish alternate care sites, and modified patient triage protocols, patient transfer procedures and other actions that occur when they fully implement disaster operations plans.

Under Section 1135 of the Social Security Act [42 USC §1320b–5] healthcare facilities may petition for HHS approval of waivers in response to particular needs within the geographic and temporal limits of the emergency declarations. Before HHS has the authority to approve such “1135 Waivers” two conditions must be met: first, the Secretary must have declared a Public Health Emergency, and second, the President must have declared a National Emergency either through a Stafford Act Declaration or National Emergencies Act Declaration. 1135 Waivers still require specific requests be submitted to HHS and processed, and some State laws may need to be addressed as well.
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This simply allows a simplification of the current system.




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/29/2010 2:54:48 PM)

The WHO tho changed the definition of "pandemic" in the summer of 2009.

We should pull up a the old thread- or spin off- - to keep this thread on topic.  (??right??)




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/29/2010 5:56:06 PM)

It was listed as a pandemic. And may be again, pa. The season hasnt started yet. Also, they changed the rules on reporting influenze starting last august. the new data may skew the results this season.




GotSteel -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/29/2010 8:25:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
I'm 57 years old so I am too old to get the vaccine.

This is the first I've heard of that. I'm under the impression that it's not normally recommended for women your age under the theory that if you're going to get HPV most likely you already have. But if that's an actual concern of yours perhaps you should ask your doctor about the vaccine.

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
However, you notice the same folks who are dead set against circumcism for any reason are also against vaccinating their children.

I hadn't actually.




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/29/2010 8:30:05 PM)

She is right, Steel. Its something i have been noticing lately as well, this trend between circumcisions and vaccinations.

Not to mention being called a whore because i dont like the taste of smegma. [:D]




heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 12:52:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

She is right, Steel. Its something i have been noticing lately as well, this trend between circumcisions and vaccinations.

Not to mention being called a whore because i dont like the taste of smegma. [:D]


You come across like a big pile of fun to be around.




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 3:51:47 AM)

Im lots of fun to be around... unless im around people like you that have a huge stick up your ass. [:D]




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 4:07:04 AM)

Oh come on Heart.

Tazz is one of our nicer people here.




eyesopened -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 4:31:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
I'm 57 years old so I am too old to get the vaccine.
This is the first I've heard of that. I'm under the impression that it's not normally recommended for women your age under the theory that if you're going to get HPV most likely you already have. But if that's an actual concern of yours perhaps you should ask your doctor about the vaccine.
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
However, you notice the same folks who are dead set against circumcism for any reason are also against vaccinating their children.
I hadn't actually.


My point was this, there are some very good reasons for circumcism.  I let that be an informed choice of the parents.  The HPV vaccine is recommend for boys as well.  HPV is also the cause of most penile cancer and the studies show that around half the uncircumcised men are carrying the virus.  If a parent decides against circumcism, they should make sure their son gets the HPV vaccine.  But a lot of the folks who are anti-circumcism zealots are also against giving their kids vaccinations.  So they don't care if their son ends up giving his wife cervical cancer as long as he remains "intact".  

How many parents who are against circumcism are going to consider the women in their sons' lives when making those decisions?  Once again, they want the women to protect themselves because it's not the man's job. 




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 5:16:32 AM)

I am opposed to vaccinations in general and against vaccinations against sexually transmitted diseases in particular. The evolution algorithm removes unfit individuals from the gene pool, keeping the gene pool healthy. Anyone and anything that interferes with that evolution algorithm commits treason against the gene pool. How smart is that? Not.

Let those males that are driven by lust die from the diseases they contract because of their behavior. Let any female that lacks the discrimination to refuse to have intercourse with such a male die for her stupidity as well, I say. Good riddance.




eyesopened -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 5:25:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule
I am opposed to vaccinations in general and against vaccinations against sexually transmitted diseases in particular. The evolution algorithm removes unfit individuals from the gene pool, keeping the gene pool healthy. Anyone and anything that interferes with that evolution algorithm commits treason against the gene pool. How smart is that? Not.

Let those males that are driven by lust die from the diseases they contract because of their behavior. Let any female that lacks the discrimination to refuse to have intercourse with such a male die for her stupidity as well, I say. Good riddance.

Thanks for making my point.




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 5:32:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
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ORIGINAL: Rule
Let any female that lacks the discrimination to refuse to have intercourse with such a male die for her stupidity as well, I say. Good riddance.

Thanks for making my point.

Unfortunately your point implies that you lack discriminatory faculties, as well as that you are lazy.




eyesopened -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 5:50:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
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ORIGINAL: Rule
Let any female that lacks the discrimination to refuse to have intercourse with such a male die for her stupidity as well, I say. Good riddance.

Thanks for making my point.

Unfortunately your point implies that you lack discriminatory faculties, as well as that you are lazy.

That should be reason enough to put me on your list of 55.  C'mon... 56 is my lucky number.




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 5:51:30 AM)

Why not get a room?

Silly fight.




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 7:16:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule
Let any female that lacks the discrimination to refuse to have intercourse with such a male die for her stupidity as well, I say. Good riddance.

Thanks for making my point.

Unfortunately your point implies that you lack discriminatory faculties, as well as that you are lazy.




I'd say that her point was made pretty well - in spite of her lack of discriminatory facilities, and laziness. [8|] When you start talking about the "evolutionary algorithm" the desire to have intercourse with you , and continue your genetic linage goes out the door.




GotSteel -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 7:25:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
If a parent decides against circumcism, they should make sure their son gets the HPV vaccine.

If a parent decides against circumcision! Wtf.......Of course everyone should get vaccinated against HPV, circumcision isn't some magic shield that stops the need for reliable methods of STD prevention.

In third world shit holes where the Catholic Church has convinced the population that condoms are made of demons and STDs thus limiting the methods of protection for most STDs to circumcision or nothing, that genital mutilation is the lesser of two evils.  Hell the reduction in filthy open wounds from the third world hygiene alone probably makes it worthwhile.

However, here in the first world we have more reliable methods of preventing STDs, the idea that you'd decline vaccination in favor of circumcision, seriously what the fuck!




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 9:30:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
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ORIGINAL: Rule
quote:

ORIGINAL: eyesopened
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule
Let any female that lacks the discrimination to refuse to have intercourse with such a male die for her stupidity as well, I say. Good riddance.

Thanks for making my point.

Unfortunately your point implies that you lack discriminatory faculties, as well as that you are lazy.

I'd say that her point was made pretty well - in spite of her lack of discriminatory facilities, and laziness. [8|] When you start talking about the "evolutionary algorithm" the desire to have intercourse with you , and continue your genetic linage goes out the door.

Indeed her point was well made. She advocates that people should be able to screw anyone of the opposite sex indiscriminatingly and not suffer the punishment.

I on the other hand advocate that people ought not to be driven by lust but by love and that when they are driven by lust, their genetic lineage had best be removed by the Divine from their population through the sexually transmitted diseases that they contract as a consequence of giving in to their lust.




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 9:46:24 AM)

And how has this theory of yours been working out so far.
I work in the medical field and very frequently see women with kids with multiple last names. I would say that is proof that your divinity doesn't really care if women screw men who screw multiple partners.

if he does, he is being awfully subtle about how he is going about eliminating them.

You think the first disease ridden genetic grouping he would remove would be the diabetic populations. Talk about passing on bad genes! [8|]




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 10:16:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
And how has this theory of yours been working out so far.
I work in the medical field and very frequently see women with kids with multiple last names. I would say that is proof that your divinity doesn't really care if women screw men who screw multiple partners.

if he does, he is being awfully subtle about how he is going about eliminating them.

Perhaps those men were circumcised? The Divine cannot only work with what is available and possible. If the Divine is thwarted by circumcision, the circumcising population incurs other - and far worse and not at all subtle - consequences.

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
You think the first disease ridden genetic grouping he would remove would be the diabetic populations. Talk about passing on bad genes! [8|]

As regards juvenile diabetes, the Divine was quite diligently removing such people from the affected populations until it was thwarted by the invention of insuline.

As regards diabetes II, it often is easily prevented by not stuffing yourself with high energy food. It even has been known to improve when fat diabetic people lost weight.




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/30/2010 10:44:57 AM)

Ummm .... so this divinity of yours can be thwarted by humans......

Not much of a divinity!

Most peoples deity is omni- everything - including superior to man. and isn't thwarted by anything.




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