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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 8:56:14 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

At the 15 year mark, we look more like newlyweds than an old. married couple.
Hey, less of the old! My parents have been married more than twice that, and they would be horrifically offended if you were to call them an old married couple (which *nobody does*)-you're potentially safe for a good while yet!


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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:12:32 AM   
SocratesNot


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Status: offline 		I read in your profile that you control almost everything about Carol, including how she views the world and what opinions does she have.
Do you think that you are destroying her as a subject and turning her in an object without any subjectivity?

That's what you wrote:
quote:

There are no real limits that we have found yet to this control.  What she eats, how she dresses, does her hair, who her friends are, whether she works or not and if so where, where she lives, whether she's allowed to indulge in her vices, and even how she views the world and processes her emotional responses are all mine to control.


I think that in such situation she ceases to exist as a subject, she becomes an object easy to manipulate and bend in any direction.

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:14:26 AM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		Jeff?... this guy... if it IS a guy, is just fucking with us.

I am not complaining, it kills time and take up some space.

Later, he or she will giggle at the tought.

Everyone needs a hobby

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:16:10 AM   
leadership527


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Status: offline 		Wow VC. Thanks for fixing my old tendencies. Would you be my therapist/domme? *laughs*

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:21:16 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Wow VC. Thanks for fixing my old tendencies. Would you be my therapist/domme? *laughs*
Only if I get to rescue Carol from her misery and her self-esteem issues while I'm at it!
(Whilst simultaneously domming her and getting her to domme me to improve her confidence...)




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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:24:53 AM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		Jeez you are so altruistic VC......

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:25:55 AM   
leadership527


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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot
I read in your profile that you control almost everything about Carol, including how she views the world and what opinions does she have.
Do you think that you are destroying her as a subject and turning her in an object without any subjectivity?
No. I think I am molding the subject that is there. Trust me on this, I have no real interest in the whole objectification thing. I like Carol as a human being thank you very much.

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I think that in such situation she ceases to exist as a subject, she becomes an object easy to manipulate and bend in any direction.
Well, again, your use of "subject" and "object' is questionable, but the "easy to manipulate and bend in any direction" thing is spot on. What exactly did you think the word "slave" meant? Nevermind, I know what you thought. I hang out in places like SecondLife also and I know what that term means in online fantasy communities. That is not what it means out here in the real world.

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ORIGINAL: Jefffffffffffffffff
Jeff?... this guy... if it IS a guy, is just fucking with us. I am not complaining, it kills time and take up some space.

Yeah, but think of the trees man! Do you have any idea how much carbon is going into the atmosphere to make the electrons which are sending these posts all across the internet!

Actually, I don't think he's fucking with us. I recognize this behavior from my own smart teenagers. My eldest, especially, was prone to this sort of "I think I know everything and I'm going to debate with you endlessly" sort of thing. I'm finding it amusing to give real answers.


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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:29:18 AM   
leadership527


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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Only if I get to rescue Carol from her misery and her self-esteem issues while I'm at it!
(Whilst simultaneously domming her and getting her to domme me to improve her confidence...)

Just remember thought that while you are domming each other, it's important that neither of you submit because that's a weakness.

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I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:33:26 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Just remember thought that while you are domming each other, it's important that neither of you submit because that's a weakness.
Well hey-she could fix MY low self-esteem too!


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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:33:34 AM   
Daddysredhead


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My Master knows that I tend to be an "in charge" person, but at the same time, I like to give that up and let someone else (Him) take the reins.  There have been times when we were finding subs for me to top and play with that He has said, "Be more aggressive, you are in charge."  There have also been times where, outside of a scene, He has reminded me that I need to assertive and more direct, without apologizing for my opinion or without backing down from where I stand.  In that way, He loves to see me take my place in an authoritative position (which is fairly natural to me in my day to day life), and just roll with it.

~ Red

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:34:13 AM   
jbcurious


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ORIGINAL: laurell3


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ORIGINAL: jbcurious



We are submissive because we are.

You are obtuse because you are.



jb I love you....really...seriously....you are fucking awesome!


I have to admit... I got a giggle writing that...

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:36:39 AM   
leadership527


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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Well hey-she could fix MY low self-esteem too!

Somewhere in all of this I feel like there is some sort of cosmic karmic balance going on. If I was as smart as SocratesNot, I'm sure I'd understand it better.

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I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:37:13 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: jbcurious

I have to admit... I got a giggle writing that...
If you giggle whilst composing a message to a Dominant then you are not a true submissive.

Security has been alerted, but we do not wish this to become unpleasant. Kindly hand in your membership card at reception before you leave.




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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:38:07 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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I got this idea by for example reading profiles of slaves and submissives who every now and then mention things like they are worthless or they want to be taken advantage of and similar things.


Well, maybe you should step away from the computer and check out the people in the real world. Then you won't get confused between the actual people  on cm and the trolls who make profiles to get good wanking material.


Quoted for truth.

This is one of the issues with using places like CM, Fetlife, Alt, or any other internet site as a reliable source of information regarding wiitwd.  I could go right now to the other side (meaning the personals) of CM and type up enough fantasy driven nonsense on a profile and it would still be read and responded to by people who had no experience in BDSM because they have no clue between fact and fiction.  I could do the same thing with enough reality mixed in that fiction that people would believe what I wrote and think I was a completely different person.  I even wrote a thread on it a while back that I would make a great scammer, because I know exactly what a lot of folks who have no experience in this would want to hear.

So, OP, please tell Me how you've verified anything that you've read in any profiles here?  Have you met the people who supposedly wrote the profile?  Have you seen them engaging in acts of BDSM or witnessed their dynamics?  Have you looked at them in the world that exists beyond the computer?  Truth be told, you don't even know I am who I say I am.  I could just be some guy from Jersey.


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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:39:32 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Somewhere in all of this I feel like there is some sort of cosmic karmic balance going on. If I was as smart as SocratesNot, I'm sure I'd understand it better.
You mean to say that the sum of all our [therapy/dom/domme/domme/self-esteem/topping fandango thing] parts will be zero?

That makes me sad. :-(


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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:41:54 AM   
leadership527


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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Security has been alerted, but we do not wish this to become unpleasant.
Well, actually, I have to assume there are quite a few sadists here ARE hoping it becomes unpleasant. Afterall, if it becomes unpleasant, they'll have an opportunity to fix jb's submissive tendencies.

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I didn't so much "enslave" Carol as I did "enlove" her. - Me
I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:43:55 AM   
Daddysredhead


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Well hey-she could fix MY low self-esteem too!

Somewhere in all of this I feel like there is some sort of cosmic karmic balance going on. If I was as smart as SocratesNot, I'm sure I'd understand it better.


*my eyes read this is "a smartass"* 

lol...

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:45:03 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious
Security has been alerted, but we do not wish this to become unpleasant.
Well, actually, I have to assume there are quite a few sadists here ARE hoping it becomes unpleasant. Afterall, if it becomes unpleasant, they'll have an opportunity to fix jb's submissive tendencies.
Jeff! (If it weren't for the fact that we also have a Jeff with multiple ff's I would have written that Jefffffffffffff to show my irritation.) Hush up! We have to keep up a semblance of propriety!

*You're* thinking 'resist, bitch!' and *I'm* thinking 'resist, bitch!', but we aren't supposed to admit it!


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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:50:38 AM   
leadership527


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Status: offline 		Hey, don't be looking at ME with that multiple fffff's. That's the other bad Jeff. I'm the good jeff who's not a sadist but does turn his wife into a pale caricature of a human being.

So all in all, I'd be happier if it didn't turn unpleasant but if we have to escort jb out I'm gonna be sad anyway. Can't we find some way to bend the rules in her case?

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I want a joyous, loving, respectful relationship where the male is in charge and deserves to be. - DavanKael

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RE: Do any of you Dominants have a desire to make your ... - 5/22/2010 9:53:37 AM   
VaguelyCurious


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ORIGINAL: leadership527

So all in all, I'd be happier if it didn't turn unpleasant but if we have to escort jb out I'm gonna be sad anyway. Can't we find some way to bend the rules in her case?
Look, it's in your best interests that she goes! She'll walk straight out of the True Submissives Club, take a right and the next left, and walk straight into the Fakes Saloon and dive bar! You've said it yourself several times-you practically live on the snooker table, my friend


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