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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:37:46 AM

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Yes all food. i first became intrigued by this notion when reading a report of a guy who claims not to have eaten since birth. He is 75 now and amazed doctors who examined him and found that he had no nourishment in his body. He claims his secret was he touched by a guardian angel goddess at 14 and that spiritual power has kept him alive since without food
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so how did he survive for the first 14 years?

holly, always the voice of logic and reason ;-)

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:39:01 AM

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Yes all food. i first became intrigued by this notion when reading a report of a guy who claims not to have eaten since birth. He is 75 now and amazed doctors who examined him and found that he had no nourishment in his body. He claims his secret was he touched by a guardian angel goddess at 14 and that spiritual power has kept him alive since without food
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so how did he survive for the first 14 years?

holly, always the voice of logic and reason ;-)

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:39:13 AM

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It goes without saying that I have the right to refuse to allow a submissive to have certain foods all the time, or to make her have ones that are good for her.

Oh admit it, Stevie, you just want to keep all the cookies for yourself

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:40:12 AM

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I've done fasts for a week or two. It's not that big a deal. Master has had me beg for all kinds of things, including foods. Again no big deal. I'm sure I could see one day that he may want to starve me for a time. That's his perogative. People going without food for a short amount of time is not that big a deal unless you need it for medical reasons but being that we're both rather healthy reasonable sane adults, it's not something I would say is out of the question.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:41:36 AM

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It goes without saying that I have the right to refuse to allow a submissive to have certain foods all the time, or to make her have ones that are good for her.

Oh admit it, Stevie, you just want to keep all the cookies for yourself

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:43:50 AM

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OK, if she was a diabetic, of course I wouldn't ever even imagine experimenting with fasting and such things.
But I really think that not eating one day is not a big deal, because I did it myself several times, not because of any kinky ideas, but just as an experiment and as a way to give my digestive system a little rest.
I don't think that overweight people would necessarily have problems if they skipped eating one day. Of course they would drink a lot of water, and I don't believe that after just one day of fasting they would start putting on additional weight in what is known as yo-yo effect.

I think for yo-yo effect it takes a little longer to develop.

But in any way, I wouldn't do it without her full consent, and only if both of us agreed that this is safe.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 7:46:51 AM

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It goes without saying that I have the right to refuse to allow a submissive to have certain foods all the time, or to make her have ones that are good for her.

Oh admit it, Stevie, you just want to keep all the cookies for yourself

*grins* well....what are the chances I'm wrong?

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 8:00:25 AM

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 8:02:38 AM

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Perhaps i put the question badly. Sorry for misleading. What i mean is this, Do you feel as a Domme /Dom that you have the right to forbid your slave to eat? If you do this and it s consensual is it ok? Or are people who do this both wrong and bonkers and need to be reported. Or is it none of our business the extremes that both consenting adults decide to go out. After all the person consented to starve etc
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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 8:14:04 AM

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I think that I am very, very happy that questions like this do not come up in my relationship. Nor do they come up in the relationship of any of the other M/s couples I know. So given that it isn't happening anywhere in my life, I think I don't have an opinion.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 8:14:57 AM

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I think I would be more than a little pissed off if my partner said 'sweeite I dont want you to eat today because I think you are overweight, it will be fun honest'

I haven't had food kept though there was a time when the people I was with kinda forgot to feed me, not the same thing though.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 8:16:35 AM

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Well so am i glad its not an issue in my life. Im just intrigued by the bizarre thats all
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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 8:18:16 AM

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Perhaps i put the question badly. Sorry for misleading. What i mean is this, Do you feel as a Domme /Dom that you have the right to forbid your slave to eat?

Only if they consent to eat, and only if it is safe to do it, which means that it will not last long, and that it will cause no harm to them.

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If you do this and it s consensual is it ok?

It is OK as long as it is both safe and consensual.

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Or are people who do this both wrong and bonkers and need to be reported.

If we see someone becoming ill, or emaciated or undernourished, we should report the one who is responsible which such condition, even if the person affected gave his/her consent.

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Or is it none of our business the extremes that both consenting adults decide to go out. After all the person consented to starve etc

This becomes our business the moment it starts to cause harm.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:03:25 AM

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lobodomslavery,

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Do you think starving a slave is acceptable if done within certain time periods and no more? Are people like this certfiable? Or is it ok if its between consenting adults?

I would suggest that the dominant have a clear understanding of her relationship with food before doing this. Physical and mental health hold equal weight in my mind. This is where it gets dicey. People have preconceptions and sometimes they get in the way of what's really there. I once had someone tell me that if I belonged to him he'd keep the fridge locked and I could only eat when permitted. He viewed it as a form of control. I've known him for years and he isn't certifiable.

Now that works for me because I was raised in that manner. No locks of course, but we weren't permitted to graze all day. In the here and now denial comes with ease and I've got some zany notions about food. Doing that to me probably wouldn't yield the outcome he'd want. As of matter of fact, its likely I'd enjoy it for reasons he wouldn't approve of. Hence the warning. There's fetish and plain stupidity. Things can be fun if you're smart and educated before the situation unfolds not after the calamity.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:08:16 AM

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This came from another thread. Ladies im wondering about your views on this one. A new poster remarked that some in the lifestyle go for more extreme practices like starving a slave or sub or denying a slave or sub food or have a slave beg for food.

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Yes all food. i first became intrigued by this notion when reading a report of a guy who claims not to have eaten since birth. He is 75 now and amazed doctors who examined him and found that he had no nourishment in his body. He claims his secret was he touched by a guardian angel goddess at 14 and that spiritual power has kept him alive since without food
kevin

So which is it? Are we really bringing tabloid fantasy bullshit to the forums now?

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:10:34 AM

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I might deny the slave food; as in giving the slave 'Half portions' of meals if there was a serious weight problem. But even with the weight there has to be exercise too.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:16:10 AM

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So which is it? Are we really bringing tabloid fantasy bullshit to the forums now?

I'm thinking I need to post a new thread and just get to the heart of this entire topic?

Masters, do you treat your slaves like shit and abuse them constantly because you don't give a crap about them or do you care about the people in your lives?

Now that I'm back in civilization again and so able to be around more real life M/s couples, I am struck by the disparity I see on these boards and the actuality I see in front of me. At least in my neck of the woods, every single long-term M/s couple I've met so far could readily be described as "dopey in love". I suppose it's possible a few of them might not like the word "love", but call it what they want, that'd be how I would describe the actual interactions I'm seeing.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:17:49 AM

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Why no consideration for poor Jim. Holly cooks for him, right?

"Would you starve your Master?"

poor Jim

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:33:30 AM

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This is a bizarre little thread. From where I sit, yes, my partner CAN starve me if he so chooses. He will do as he pleases and that's just the way it is. WOULD he do such a thing? No. He wouldn't do it because he does not believe in treating something he values in such a way. He may at some point decide he will dictate exactly when and what I eat for my own betterment, but he is not going to starve me and take me to a point of my body breaking down just because it may or may not get him hot. I'm too important to him to risk damaging or losing me for the sake of some kind of play scene. If he didn't take good care of his possessions, I wouldn't be among them.

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RE: Would you starve a slave or deny them food for a pe... - 5/23/2010 9:41:55 AM

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Yes all food. i first became intrigued by this notion when reading a report of a guy who claims not to have eaten since birth. He is 75 now and amazed doctors who examined him and found that he had no nourishment in his body. He claims his secret was he touched by a guardian angel goddess at 14 and that spiritual power has kept him alive since without food
kevin

Nix. Read the published results of the medical tests that were done on him. He'd eaten and drunk before he showed up for the testing, and all the results were totally consistent with extended fasting after eating, and the effects of fasting and dehydration on his tissues over the two week period.

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