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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:25:09 PM   
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LAT- is not even in the top 10 offenders.

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:25:43 PM   
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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:26:25 PM   
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OK, but in Iowa, if you say, " My girl is a pig".

Do people just wink slyly at you?


In Iowa? They would assume I was saying my daughter was dirty/messy. A bit obtuse these farmers.

Kinda like someone else.....


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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:26:51 PM   
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You are not reportable.

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:31:40 PM   
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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:33:22 PM   
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You just want my shoes and cock pics!


you forgot to mention cam too!  ;-0

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 1:49:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tend to look at this debate (the gay marriage one, not what the thread is about to be) as one that could be easily settled if you took out the fanatics that are extreme on each end and just deal with the folks that are more condensed in the bell curve.  It would be My opinion that good number of same sex couples out there would be completely content if they could have a civil union that would give them the same rights, privileges, and status as any other het couple under the law.  The hang up comes from the word marriage, which really is a word based on religion.  You've got gays that are so obsessed about the word marriage and religious folks that are hung up on it for different reasons.  It's kind of hard, legally, to screw with someone else's faith, even if you don't agree with it.

I'm hugely in favor of gays having the right to civil union that gives them all of the same rights under the law.  On a personal level, I would love to see this happen.  It gives Me hope that, someday, the poly folks might just be next.  Unfortunately, I doubt I'm going to see that in My lifetime.


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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 2:30:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		LP- that is not fully true.

A civil union that contained the 1000ish things that marriage would not be acceptable to the anti-marriage crowd.

It is not about the word--"marriage".     Not entirely.

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 4:04:18 PM   
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Everyone has the right to their own personal happiness.


No.  No they do not.  That is such a silly fairy tale. 

Let me put it this way. . . if my personal happiness involved drawing and quartering you, would I have that right? 

I know that according to what you have just wrote, that I have it.  But lets live in the meat world for a moment.  DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT?  Oh. . . the same goes for rapists, serial killers, embezzlers. . .the list goes on. 

Yeah.  That is what I thought. 


Wow, so much venom. Could you please calm down? And once you've calmed down, please consider that marriage is a CONSENSUAL arrangement, unlike rape, or embezzlement, and that while some folks might "consent" to be drawn and quartered, or even killed (excepting from this discussion assisted suicide), the fact that a person would purport to consent to such an arrangement would justify the rest of us in assuming that they are not altogether sane, and presumptively without the capacity to give genuine consent.

By the way, I'm all for it.

Edited to clarify that "it" is "gay marriage," though implicit in that is my support for the capacity to give genuine consent.

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 4:10:39 PM   
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I have a delightful little pin that is attached to my purse that says .... "Want to end Gay Sex? Support Gay Marriage"





I have a delightful little pin attached to MY purse that says "You're awesome."

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 4:25:17 PM   
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LP- that is not fully true.

A civil union that contained the 1000ish things that marriage would not be acceptable to the anti-marriage crowd.

It is not about the word--"marriage".     Not entirely.


You did notice that I said take the extremists off both sides of the range of the issue.  I don't think this is one of those issues where you can have everyone happy because no solution is going to do that.  The best that you're going to come up with is some form of compromise that the majority of folks can find "acceptable enough". 

Are there people out there that won't be happy if the same legal rights are given solely based on this being a same sex union?  Yes.  Are there people out there who have become such fundamentalists on the issue that, even if they got the same rights as a het union, they would not be happy unless it was specifically called "marriage".  Yes.

The sad part about this, to Me, is that none of those people seem to realize they only make the situation worse.  We could have been long past this.


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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 4:50:40 PM   
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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 4:52:02 PM   
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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/1/2010 5:00:33 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_1924796/mpage_4/key_gay%252Cmarriage/tm.htm#1925561


Not quite relevant to the conversation, but it is always nice to see Firm was kind of an A-hole back a few years ago and that it just wasn't suddenly thrust upon him.


Thanks domi. 

I don't work to achieve assholiness, but sometimes it's an outgrowth of my "beliefs".

I guess I should thank kittin for bringing that thread up.  I think it's the only time I have ever even commented in a "gay marriage" thread.  This makes the second, in six years.

You might want to read that entire thread, and the one about conducting a discussion ("Disagreeing without being disagreeable") that came out of it.  I think both of them were pretty good.

Obviously, it left an impression on kittinsol.  One of my missions was accomplished. 

Firm


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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/2/2010 5:38:17 AM   
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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/2/2010 9:31:28 AM   
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Man why are you guys acting like you pooped your pants? Why do you have to take it out on me? sticks and stones may break my bones..... nan nan a boo boo


Bless your heart........you just keep digging deeper.


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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/2/2010 9:57:49 AM   
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I have a delightful little pin that is attached to my purse that says .... "Want to end Gay Sex? Support Gay Marriage"




Now, that's funny

I'm all for gay marriage, everyone should have the equal right to be happy or miserable as the next, you only live once, so let them be happy.

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/2/2010 10:00:26 AM   
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Man why are you guys acting like you pooped your pants? Why do you have to take it out on me? sticks and stones may break my bones..... nan nan a boo boo


Bless your heart........you just keep digging deeper.



Cat, there are a batch of posters here who jab and jive- and some that jab some of the time but not always.  Domiguy is one who does.

So- while we debate- we also let our hair down and joke around with others.

See?

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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/2/2010 3:35:21 PM   
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I disagree Our constituion states "everyone has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of hapiness" 



Leaving aside the rest, because I am tired and I just got home from traveling for work.

No, the US Constitution does NOT state that. 

It is however stated in the second section of the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

The government has nothing to do with those rights.  You will need to apply to your creator. 

I am curious as to why you would want a reputation for controversy.  That seems a bit odd to me. 


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RE: Gay mariaage? For it? Against it? Dont Care? - 6/2/2010 3:41:07 PM   
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Everyone has the right to their own personal happiness.


No.  No they do not.  That is such a silly fairy tale. 

Let me put it this way. . . if my personal happiness involved drawing and quartering you, would I have that right? 

I know that according to what you have just wrote, that I have it.  But lets live in the meat world for a moment.  DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT?  Oh. . . the same goes for rapists, serial killers, embezzlers. . .the list goes on. 

Yeah.  That is what I thought. 


Wow, so much venom. Could you please calm down? And once you've calmed down, please consider that marriage is a CONSENSUAL arrangement, unlike rape, or embezzlement, and that while some folks might "consent" to be drawn and quartered, or even killed (excepting from this discussion assisted suicide), the fact that a person would purport to consent to such an arrangement would justify the rest of us in assuming that they are not altogether sane, and presumptively without the capacity to give genuine consent.

By the way, I'm all for it.

Edited to clarify that "it" is "gay marriage," though implicit in that is my support for the capacity to give genuine consent.


Venom?  *snort*  LOL

That was not venom babe.  But you are so cute.  Now get me some coffee. 


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