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Now do you care to say something?

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Now do you care to say something?

I'm not sure there would be a great deal of purpose in elaborating. Your defense of her struck me as reflexive and ridiculous. Things like that make me smile sometimes.

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I'm not sure when killing each other is terribly intelligent, DNA or not.

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Imagine if she were telling black people to go back to Africa. Would you still be asking the same question (substituting racist for anti-semetic of course)?

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Imagine if she were telling black people to go back to Africa. Would you still be asking the same question (substituting racist for anti-semetic of course)?

I don't really care too much about Israel but most people who are against Israel do it because of the whole occupied land/displaced people thing not omg jews are evil.

It would be more like someone saying all non Native Americans should gtfo.

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Helen Thomas retiring, effective immediately (Link: CNN)

http://bit.ly/cIxKjB

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Yes Owner, because telling Jews to get out of Israel and go home to Germany and Poland isn't race baiting at all. Not to mention the Israel bashing and US/Obama Admin. berating she gave Robert Gibbs that puts here "sincere" apology in question. She has a long history of being anti-Jew and anti Israel.


DS before someone tries to discredit Debbie Schussel blog I'll add this one: http://www.womensenews.org/story/journalist-the-month/030911/thomas-asks-questions-while-others-fear-tread

Though to be honest, I do not see why one is even needed. Again, she has always been a self identified Arab.

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Yes Owner, because telling Jews to get out of Israel and go home to Germany and Poland isn't race baiting at all. Not to mention the Israel bashing and US/Obama Admin. berating she gave Robert Gibbs that puts here "sincere" apology in question. She has a long history of being anti-Jew and anti Israel.


DS before someone tries to discredit Debbie Schussel blog I'll add this one: http://www.womensenews.org/story/journalist-the-month/030911/thomas-asks-questions-while-others-fear-tread

Though to be honest, I do not see why one is even needed. Again, she has always been a self identified Arab.

Will someone explain to me where Helen's comments stopped being a political statement and became anti-semetic. If she is against the existence of the State of Israel in the place that it is does that mean she is anti-semetic? I take anti-semetic to be equivalent to "jew hater." I did not see any of the latter in her comments. What did I miss?

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Yes Owner, because telling Jews to get out of Israel and go home to Germany and Poland isn't race baiting at all. Not to mention the Israel bashing and US/Obama Admin. berating she gave Robert Gibbs that puts here "sincere" apology in question. She has a long history of being anti-Jew and anti Israel.


DS before someone tries to discredit Debbie Schussel blog I'll add this one: http://www.womensenews.org/story/journalist-the-month/030911/thomas-asks-questions-while-others-fear-tread

Though to be honest, I do not see why one is even needed. Again, she has always been a self identified Arab.

Will someone explain to me where Helen's comments stopped being a political statement and became anti-semetic. If she is against the existence of the State of Israel in the place that it is does that mean she is anti-semetic? I take anti-semetic to be equivalent to "jew hater." I did not see any of the latter in her comments. What did I miss?

Right about the time that she used the term "Jews" and "get the HELL out". Those are not the way an unbiased journalist would express anti-Zionist beliefs.

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Yes Owner, because telling Jews to get out of Israel and go home to Germany and Poland isn't race baiting at all. Not to mention the Israel bashing and US/Obama Admin. berating she gave Robert Gibbs that puts here "sincere" apology in question. She has a long history of being anti-Jew and anti Israel.


DS before someone tries to discredit Debbie Schussel blog I'll add this one: http://www.womensenews.org/story/journalist-the-month/030911/thomas-asks-questions-while-others-fear-tread

Though to be honest, I do not see why one is even needed. Again, she has always been a self identified Arab.

Will someone explain to me where Helen's comments stopped being a political statement and became anti-semetic. If she is against the existence of the State of Israel in the place that it is does that mean she is anti-semetic? I take anti-semetic to be equivalent to "jew hater." I did not see any of the latter in her comments. What did I miss?

Right about the time that she used the term "Jews" and "get the HELL out". Those are not the way an unbiased journalist would express anti-Zionist beliefs.

Okay, she is a biased journalist. But does that make her an anti-semite? What is wrong with using the term "Jews?" Isn't Zionism a political movement? So, my question remains, seriously, where is the line between political speech and hate speech?

ETA when does "get the hell out" cross over from political enthusiasm to hate speech? Anyone?

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She also said the Israelis were "occupiers."

So, you are telling me that "get the hell out" is now a code word for bigotry?

If a Syrian said the United States should "get the hell out" of Iraq is that not political speech? Or does it cross over to hate speech?

Quite honestly, I have never heard this before... that "get the hell out" is an equivalent to hate speech.

Is that why the old girl is being reviled? Because she was rude in her choice of words? Really?

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She also said the Israelis were "occupiers."

So, you are telling me that "get the hell out" is now a code word for bigotry?

If a Syrian said the United States should "get the hell out" of Iraq is that not political speech? Or does it cross over to hate speech?

Quite honestly, I have never heard this before... that "get the hell out" is an equivalent to hate speech.

Is that why the old girl is being reviled? Because she was rude in her choice of words? Really?

vincent,

I didn't go back and listen to her again, but the impression I got was that she meant "All Jews get the hell out of the Middle East.  Go back to Europe, or wherever else you came from." As in the entire state of Israeli shouldn't exist.

I think that steps over the line.

Firm

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I don't really care too much about Israel but most people who are against Israel do it because of the whole occupied land/displaced people thing not omg jews are evil.