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Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 4:53:07 PM

SocratesNot

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Are there any of you who have secret fantasies of becoming special by accomplishing unaccomplishable such as:

- turning the Master into your slave (if you are a Domme)
- turning the Domme into your slave (if you are a Master)
- impressing the pro-domme to that point that you get free sessions
- turning exclusively pro-domme into a lifestlyle domme, just for you
- turning the slave into a dominant
- turning the slave with no interest in feminization into a woman
- making a lesbian fall in love with you (if you are a man)
- making a gay fall in love with you (if you are a woman)
- turning pure heterosexual into a bisexual

Do such things ever happen in a real life or this is just pure fantasy stuff?

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 4:57:01 PM

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These things are as realistic as the Great Raptor himself.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 4:58:51 PM

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Well, I assume all these things are possible, just as long as there is something lingering inside people. I personally always said "you can't turn a gay man straight", but if they turn out to be bisexual, a woman can seduce them. Personally I have always only had submissive feelings, so I don't think I could be turned into a Master. However, I am dominant against people in normal life, and I enjoy D&s sessions in general, so if really wanted, I could play a dominant to a girl, but it would be play, it would not be what I truly feel inside or what I aspire. So yeah, it's probably possible to make people play a role for once in a while, but does it make you feel special, I don't know...

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:09:40 PM

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Honestly SN, this is why I like the fact that Carol is a submissive personality. I'm not "turning her" into anything. I'm not a huge believer in square pegs & round holes.

Honestly, I'd rather reserve my real efforts to serious conquests with meaning.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:11:42 PM

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Sorry...I don't have such thoughts, have no desire to be special in those ways. I don't really get why others would want to do such things but to each their own I guess. I see them as childish ideas.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:37:33 PM

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If there is a spark there, it's certainly possible to ignite it. It might be something as simple as chemistry, right time - right place - or it could be more complicated such as by helping someone to rid themselves of what they *think* they are supposed to be based on gender, culture etc. Without something already *inside* the other person though, it's probably not going to happen. Some of the things you've listed I know, personally, that people have flipped but it was because after genuine soul searching they realized they had been in that place all along but didn't know how to get from point A to point B without a little help a long the way. Others decided to try something new for fun or recreation etc., and realized they liked that a lot better than what they had been doing.. so, there is hope.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:39:09 PM

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Yeah. I want to be special. I want to be the last man that my next submissive ever has.

Now, where the hell IS she?

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:41:57 PM

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Fuck. You mean I'm not already special? And here I was thinking I was the boomdiggedy.
I gotta say, I feel pretty special, and I don't mean the short bus kind. Personally, I think that as long as it's not taken to an extreme (i.e. narcissism), that's a pretty healthy way to be.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:41:59 PM

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It might work, but I don't see the point in pouring yourself into it. Like everything else, it's more or less a chasing after the win. Just live life, take chances, and seize whatever opportunities you've got, and you'll probably come out alright. I think.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:43:15 PM

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Umm - i think she went that-a-way.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:44:39 PM

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Seems to me that you would have a lot more fun doing what felt right to you - rather than trying to "turn" someone else for accolades from .............who?

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:45:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Yeah. I want to be special. I want to be the last man that my next submissive ever has.

Now, where the hell IS she?

What DS said only for Mistress and slave

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:45:41 PM

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Nothin you listed is of any interest to me.

Embracing a person for who and what they are, is a comfort to me. I like knowing where I stand, and what to expect and to be able to have the confidence and faith, that what I see, is what I get. I'm a WYSIWIG kinda gal, and perfer other wysiwigs like me.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:51:00 PM

LittleBroken

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I'm "special"..but then I gather you lot have already worked that out.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:51:31 PM

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yet you still havent got on that plane to the UK

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 5:56:03 PM

laurell3

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We're all special. I would hope people know that about themselves before they attempt to delve into a relationship of any type.

You can't MAKE anyone be anything. I can't even fathom trying it.

I can say however, as I stated on another thread, I considered myself to be heterosexual (laughs), and that opinion was changed in a "forced bi" scene at the direction of my partner. However, "forced bi" isn't really "forced" at all and there has to be some interest and usually the focus is on the top/dom(me), not the person who is the recipient. So even then, I wouldn't say it MAKES anyone anything.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 6:14:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

Are there any of you who have secret fantasies of becoming special by accomplishing unaccomplishable such as:

- turning the Master into your slave (if you are a Domme)
- turning the Domme into your slave (if you are a Master)
- impressing the pro-domme to that point that you get free sessions
- turning exclusively pro-domme into a lifestlyle domme, just for you
- turning the slave into a dominant
- turning the slave with no interest in feminization into a woman
- making a lesbian fall in love with you (if you are a man)
- making a gay fall in love with you (if you are a woman)
- turning pure heterosexual into a bisexual

Do such things ever happen in a real life or this is just pure fantasy stuff?

Y'know if it wasn't for fantasies, we'd be a poor old world wouldn't we? No great art works, no amazing buildings both historic and modern, basically no or few inventions so it mat be back to the cave and same old same old. Now. afore some one leaps on me from a great height [proclaiming the dreams of wondrous things are different from fantasies, I shall beg to differ. We can dream about making or doing things and that is just a two dimensional sketch in the notebook of our mind. Once we start to see it in three dimensions as a real item, we have entered into the creative world of fantasy. It is just the same when we think about some person we wish or want to seduce but once we start playing scenes in outr mind we are fantasising just as an author does as they create their epic and in their mind live it and write from that experience of how the characters are being and living. It would indeed be a sad thing to relegate the creative genius of fantasy into the same box of "dirty" or "smutty" pictures or erotic material. Like most things we sully fantasy as we sully much of the God given gifts. Our lose and the loss echoes through human kind.

To answer your question simply Socrates, there is a saying which I have personally both seen and proven to be quite true. "The real life has far more wondrous things and bigger secrets than fiction" if we write about them without the clinical proof if it can be shown, people will not believe us. History is filled with such examples. Just read the histories of both the Victorian and Edwardian periods even in England alone.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 6:20:58 PM

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I didn't have anyone successfully set out to convert me, but I started out as a Domme, and thought for years that I was incapable of submitting to anyone. Once I did find someone I clicked with that way, and was ready to give it a try, it was easy, natural, and mostly pretty drama-free. I've successfully converted a couple of nilla or inexperienced kinky people. Most of them tried both sides, and quickly let me know which one worked better for them. They were willing to indulge me in the other side if I wanted them to, but it didn't do as much for them.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 6:51:11 PM

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quote:

I've successfully converted a couple of nilla or inexperienced kinky people.

This is hot!

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 7:08:46 PM

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In a way, I don't really see this as much different than fantasies of becoming special by being enchanting to a particularly interesting celebrity or becoming famous because you have excelled in some kind of craft.

Or... becoming Professor Henry Higgins

It is the becoming special part that I find interesting though.
That you have to change someone else in a grand scale to do that.
Not that being yourself is enough, but that you have to turn a zebra into a kangaroo.

I think my imagination must either be really lacking or just on a different plane, because my idea of special is totally different.

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