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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 7:22:33 PM   
LadyCimarron


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Status: offline 		If one does not already believe they are special nothing they DO is going to change that belief. I am special because there is only one person like me on the face of this planet. (and I'm sure the whole world is thankful that they only have one of me to put up with)

I also don't believe you can "turn" anyone into anything. It was already there. You may be able to draw it out of them or help them discover it; and it truly happens all the time. There are people who spend decades strictly on one side then want to try the other side. And many gays and lesbians can and do fall in love with the opposite sex. That does not mean they are sexually attracted to the them. They still are who they are. And if a hetersexual "turns" bi; She or He already WAS bi (meaning attacted to both sexes). There are slaves who perform bi activities because their dominant orders it, but are still not attracted to the opposite sex, therefore they are not bi.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 7:30:49 PM   
Andalusite


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Status: offline 		Well, in my case, I agree that masochism and submission were drawn from me, rather than literally being changed into a new person, but I had no desire for either until I actually tried them. It was there, but I was completely unaware of it.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 8:15:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

Are there any of you who have secret fantasies of becoming special by accomplishing unaccomplishable such as:

- turning the Master into your slave (if you are a Domme)
- turning the Domme into your slave (if you are a Master)
- impressing the pro-domme to that point that you get free sessions
- turning exclusively pro-domme into a lifestlyle domme, just for you
- turning the slave into a dominant
- turning the slave with no interest in feminization into a woman
- making a lesbian fall in love with you (if you are a man)
- making a gay fall in love with you (if you are a woman)
- turning pure heterosexual into a bisexual

Do such things ever happen in a real life or this is just pure fantasy stuff?


Who's to say what can happen in real life? 

IMO, you've listed a bunch of things that probably fall into the category of attaining the unattainable.  But that's why some of those fantasies probably seem so hot to you.  The unattainable always is.

Frankly, i think that's probably why so many Dommes get inundated with e-mails from male Doms who want to convert them into subs.  They are seeking to attain the unattainable (or at least the very difficult to attain).

These dreams usually don't come true.  But it's okay to dream them anyway.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 11:47:04 PM   
pompeii


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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot
Do such things ever happen in a real life or this is just pure fantasy stuff?


There's a sucker born every minute; so I'm sure it happens; but for most of us, if it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true.

(Sort of like the lovely Asian transexuals at the PE in SF ... they're way too good to be true ... they look like women ... but they act so perfectly the way men would love women to act (e.g., "me wanna suck your dick") that they are just too damn good to be true!).

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/4/2010 11:57:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

Are there any of you who have secret fantasies of becoming special by accomplishing unaccomplishable such as:

- turning pure heterosexual into a bisexual


In my early twenties a previous partner began to insist that I should explore my interest in women. He mentioned it frequently until I finally decided to pursue it. In spite of my youthful proclivities I was very opposed to the idea. But I relented and found I enjoyed it and began to see women exclusively. The transition wasn't as smooth as you might imagine and I had a lot of ambivalence about it for a long time. I finally sorted it out after a few years passed.

~porcelaine


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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 12:35:06 AM   
crazyml


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ORIGINAL: Kana

Fuck. You mean I'm not already special? And here I was thinking I was the boomdiggedy.
I gotta say, I feel pretty special, and I don't mean the short bus kind. Personally, I think that as long as it's not taken to an extreme (i.e. narcissism), that's a pretty healthy way to be.



Anyone who can use the world "boomdiggedy" with such aplomb is, almost by definition, bound to be the boomdiggedy.


What a fucking fantastic word!

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 12:36:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LittleBroken

I'm "special"..but then I gather you lot have already worked that out.  


Bless you!

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 12:37:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyCimarron

If one does not already believe they are special nothing they DO is going to change that belief. I am special because there is only one person like me on the face of this planet. (and I'm sure the whole world is thankful that they only have one of me to put up with)

I also don't believe you can "turn" anyone into anything. It was already there. You may be able to draw it out of them or help them discover it; and it truly happens all the time. There are people who spend decades strictly on one side then want to try the other side. And many gays and lesbians can and do fall in love with the opposite sex. That does not mean they are sexually attracted to the them. They still are who they are. And if a hetersexual "turns" bi; She or He already WAS bi (meaning attacted to both sexes). There are slaves who perform bi activities because their dominant orders it, but are still not attracted to the opposite sex, therefore they are not bi.


Totally agree.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 1:46:15 AM   
jbcurious


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Status: offline 		I'm special.... So special...

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 2:07:43 AM   
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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 2:11:49 AM   
jbcurious


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

damn you for that earworm, jb!


Happy to share... that's just the kinda girl I am

It's been driving me mad all morning...

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 6:20:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SocratesNot

Are there any of you who have secret fantasies of becoming special by accomplishing unaccomplishable such as:

- turning the Master into your slave (if you are a Domme)
- turning the Domme into your slave (if you are a Master)
- impressing the pro-domme to that point that you get free sessions
- turning exclusively pro-domme into a lifestlyle domme, just for you
- turning the slave into a dominant
- turning the slave with no interest in feminization into a woman
- making a lesbian fall in love with you (if you are a man)
- making a gay fall in love with you (if you are a woman)
- turning pure heterosexual into a bisexual

Do such things ever happen in a real life or this is just pure fantasy stuff?


You live in a very small world if you don't think those things happen and a sad one if those are your goals.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 6:41:44 AM   
IronBear


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How to be Special 101

  1. Be yourself. Learn what gifts you have.
  2. Learn what interests you passionately.
  3. Use your gifts well.
  4. Become expert in your gifts so you can use them without thought.
  5. Follow your passionate interests and seek to master them.
  6. Understand humility.
  7. Understand every person is special and unique.
  8. Follow your star.
  9. Allow no one or nothing to force you to deviate from your path.
  10. Allow others to follow their path.
  11. Each path is a route to individual destiny.
  12. Teach others how to follow their paths.
  13. Allow the pupil to surpass the teacher.
  14. Replace your ego with a better understanding of your real self.
  15. Replace negatives with positives.
  16. Value others, laughter, joy, kindness and understanding above the mundane trappings of mundane success.


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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 9:53:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

You live in a very small world if you don't think those things happen and a sad one if those are your goals.


Reading that over coffee was priceless!

~porcelaine


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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 10:21:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Love to me is encouraging someone to be true to themselves above all else- all of your examples are the antithesis of that and thus not something I would choose to bring into my life.

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 10:36:03 AM   
GoodFeathers


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Status: offline 		Nietzche summed this all up fairly well with one quote:  "There is what there is, and there is what we would like it to be." 

Now, on to reality.  I am special, I must be.  I did get a gay man to fall in love with me.  He's my best friend.  I always get "free sessions" because I learned something in my short life:  there is always someone willing to do it for free, because they like it as much as I do! 

@Steven:  she's out there, babe!  You'll find her!


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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 10:37:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

You live in a very small world if you don't think those things happen and a sad one if those are your goals.


Reading that over coffee was priceless!

~porcelaine



That it was!  Nearly got the compy all caffeinated!


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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 2:22:33 PM   
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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 4:38:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml
Anyone who can use the world "boomdiggedy" with such aplomb is, almost by definition, bound to be the boomdiggedy.

I gotta admit, Kana got a few points added to "special" in my book too for the use of "boomdiggedy".

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RE: Trying to be special - does it EVER work? - 6/5/2010 5:13:21 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		My philosophy on success was formed in part by my late Sensei who introduced me to The Book of Five Rings (Go Rin No Sho) is a text on kenjutsu and the martial arts in general, written by the samurai warrior Miyamoto Musashi circa 1645. It is considered a classic treatise on military strategy, much like Sun Tzu's The Art of War and Chanakya's Arthashastra. I seriously recommend it to all Masters and Mistresses for obvious reasons and to all others for personal development. The Book of Five Rings is also used as the "bible" in Japanese corporations when planning marketing campaigns.

I also recommend another book for all who at times suffer self doubt or depression and it was the timely intervention of a close friend years ago who gave me a copy of "The Knight In Rusty Armour" which stopped me from blowing my head off. (I was wondering why I was allowed to live whilst so many of my troops died).


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